Teddy Bridgewater to become freeagent

[Sportster 72]

I will disagree for one reason and one reason only.

Had they gone with Tannehill, thats three other prime talents they would have had the ability to add. Granted there are no guarantees. But the decision was made that they guy they did take was worth 4 players ultimately. So even if they whiffed on the #6 pick with Tannehill that would have still left three players in the top 100 over the three drafts..... as clueless as Bruce is... even a blind monkey can hit a wall if he throws enough shit in the general direction.

I agree, I wasn't sure about Tannehill but I was never for giving up half a team (yes there is yeast in that comment) for a guy who ended up not being as good as Tannehill. As you said who knows who they would have drafted and how it would have turned out but what we know is we got a one year 8-8 QB for three potential players.

All that said we did draft a capable QB that year several rounds later and our owner and FO couldn't figure out if he was worth it or not.

 

[Breed]

Read a report that 28 teams said they weren’t interested in Peters. But I agree, a straight up trade would have made sense.

Wow. If that's true it turns a hoodwinking into a full on bamboozling.

 

[deanpet21]

with a team built around him , take a piece away and he falls down . example last playoff game . i was told by you and others in the SDFC that i would get a guy who could "carry a team " CDC is not that guy .

SO the defense wasn't at fault for that playoff game? From What I remember the Chiefs had a huge lead. Are you really comparing the careers of Smith Vs. Keenum. Beyond stupid.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

CB Peters in a interview said the playoff game was the defense fault not Alex

 

[Breed]

CB Peters in a interview said the playoff game was the defense fault not Alex

Was it the KC defense's fault that the KC offense put up 0 points in the 2nd half of their playoff game against Tenn?

 

[gkekoa]

SO the defense wasn't at fault for that playoff game? From What I remember the Chiefs had a huge lead. Are you really comparing the careers of Smith Vs. Keenum. Beyond stupid.

KC was up 21-3 at the half. The offense never scored another point.

KC’s first possession of the second half was a three and out. Luckily, Tennessee muffed the punt and KC recovered it. Alex Smith led a two yard drive to get them to a 48 yard FG attempt which was missed...two yards...two fuckin’ yards...you gotta be kidding me.

The next KC drive went a total of 21 yards with CDC handing the ball off and throwing receiver screens.

The final KC drive with plenty of time did very little. It was 9 plays but didn’t even get 25yards. CDC refused to throw the ball on two occasions and took zero yard sacks. His risk averse nature didn’t give his team a chance to win the game.

So yes...the offense cost them the game.

 

[skinsdad62]

SO the defense wasn't at fault for that playoff game? From What I remember the Chiefs had a huge lead. Are you really comparing the careers of Smith Vs. Keenum. Beyond stupid.

the standard you apply to KC is the standard i apply to CDC

however of the 264 passing yds in the game 231 came in the 1st half ., (19 -23 for 231 2 tds ) but in the 2nd half he was (5-10 33 yds )

and again deanis your reading comprehension needs work , go back and look , i compared OUTLIER SEASONS LAST YEAR NOT CAREERS

they lost, at home to a lesser team

 

[deanpet21]

the standard you apply to KC is the standard i apply to CDC

however of the 264 passing yds in the game 231 came in the 1st half ., (19 -23 for 231 2 tds ) but in the 2nd half he was (5-10 33 yds )

and again deanis your reading comprehension needs work , go back and look , i compared OUTLIER SEASONS LAST YEAR NOT CAREERS

they lost, at home to a lesser team

not denying that. Comparing Smith to Kennaum is just pure hate. You can disagree with the trade but you are bashing Smiths talent. You are saying ANY of the FA qb's you mentioned could be just as good or better than SMith. That is a huge stretch. You are doing this b/c you cant stand the fact that we moved on from KC and the team didn't give KC the long term deal that you thought they would. That is what this is all about. Team first player 2nd.

 

[skinsdad62]

not denying that. Comparing Smith to Kennaum is just pure hate. You can disagree with the trade but you are bashing Smiths talent. You are saying ANY of the FA qb's you mentioned could be just as good or better than SMith. That is a huge stretch. You are doing this b/c you cant stand the fact that we moved on from KC and the team didn't give KC the long term deal that you thought they would. That is what this is all about. Team first player 2nd.

thats exactly what i am saying either of those fa's are just as good . KC is gone and has nothing to do with it

 

[Sharkinva]

That is what this is all about. Team first player 2nd.

Funny coming from some one who pounded the table that we should never have drafted two contributors because it was basically disrespectful to let Moses slide to the third round and we should have over drafted the player and to hell with the team.

 

[skinsdad62]

not denying that. Comparing Smith to Kennaum is just pure hate. You can disagree with the trade but you are bashing Smiths talent. You are saying ANY of the FA qb's you mentioned could be just as good or better than SMith. That is a huge stretch. You are doing this b/c you cant stand the fact that we moved on from KC and the team didn't give KC the long term deal that you thought they would. That is what this is all about. Team first player 2nd.

enlighten me how comparing the 2 from last season is "pure hate " . enlighten me how comparing both of their outlier seasons is pure hate ? . a huge stretch ? in my opinion we are heading to 6-8 wins max . and with this defense i think keenum can do it just as easily as smith can . so can bradford , bridgewater , taylor without giving up any capitol

and of course i am bashing his talent . as a number one overall draft pick he is a huge bust . now maybe your standard for a number one overall is to be an avg risk adverse qb who is steve deberg lite but mine is quite a bit higher then that . his career wreaks of game manager . he cant carry a team and he wont take a team on his back an win many games . he just wont lose them for you. that is his whole career not just last season , the aberration

good thing we paid 71 mil guaranteed for him so he can hold the position until stephen morris is ready because gruden says we might not even get a qb and doug williams was selling morris the other day

 

[Sharkinva]

good thing we paid 71 mil guaranteed for him so he can hold the position until stephen morris is ready because gruden says we might not even get a qb and doug williams was selling morris the other day

You ever notice the people who were most adamant about tearing the QB down, are propping the hell out of Smith?

 

[Stymietee]

KC was up 21-3 at the half. The offense never scored another point.

KC’s first possession of the second half was a three and out. Luckily, Tennessee muffed the punt and KC recovered it. Alex Smith led a two yard drive to get them to a 48 yard FG attempt which was missed...two yards...two fuckin’ yards...you gotta be kidding me.

The next KC drive went a total of 21 yards with CDC handing the ball off and throwing receiver screens.

The final KC drive with plenty of time did very little. It was 9 plays but didn’t even get 25yards. CDC refused to throw the ball on two occasions and took zero yard sacks. His risk averse nature didn’t give his team a chance to win the game.

So yes...the offense cost them the game.

To be honest about playing defense. Anytime you go into the half with a 21-3 lead, you don't count on your offense to score again, you hope that they do, but that's secondary to the job that you have to do as a defensive squad. That job is to win the game with that 21-3 lead. Peter's was correct and anyone here can reference every player or defensive coach, that's ever coached played defense in the history of the game, as evidence.

@Sportster 72, you've coached the game, does this confirm the defensive mindset?

 

[Sportster 72]

To be honest about playing defense. Anytime you go into the half with a 21-3 lead, you don't count on your offense to score again, you hope that they do, but that's secondary to the job that you have to do as a defensive squad. That job is to win the game with that 21-3 lead. Peter's was correct and anyone here can reference every player or defensive coach, that's ever coached played defense in the history of the game, as evidence.

@Sportster 72, you've coached the game, does this confirm the defensive mindset?

Not really. Although you have a big lead you still have a half of football to play and you have not won. My mindset is to stay aggressive and this especially includes the defensive side of the ball. Once you get to the 4th quarter if you still have a similar lead then you might get more conservative. The best defense is a good offense which keeps the other teams offense off the field.

The Chiefs did not have a good D last year. I think they were ranked near the bottom of the league. I wouldn't blame the game on Smith. My thought as always is that it is a team game.

 

[gkekoa]

Not really. Although you have a big lead you still have a half of football to play and you have not won. My mindset is to stay aggressive and this especially includes the defensive side of the ball. Once you get to the 4th quarter if you still have a similar lead then you might get more conservative. The best defense is a good offense which keeps the other teams offense off the field.

The Chiefs did not have a good D last year. I think they were ranked near the bottom of the league. I wouldn't blame the game on Smith. My thought as always is that it is a team game.

30 yards in the second half. Without Kelce, AS was lost.

Chiefs scoring defense, that which matters, was not bottom.

 

[gkekoa]

To be honest about playing defense. Anytime you go into the half with a 21-3 lead, you don't count on your offense to score again, you hope that they do, but that's secondary to the job that you have to do as a defensive squad. That job is to win the game with that 21-3 lead. Peter's was correct and anyone here can reference every player or defensive coach, that's ever coached played defense in the history of the game, as evidence.

@Sportster 72, you've coached the game, does this confirm the defensive mindset?

Mindset for a defense should be nobody scores on us. It isn’t reality.

21 points scored on offense in a game is borderline expectation of winning and will mostly lose.

Zero points, 56 yards, and ten minutes TOP in 5he second half will wear down any defense.

 

[Sportster 72]

Mindset for a defense should be nobody scores on us. It isn’t reality.

21 points scored on offense in a game is borderline expectation of winning and will mostly lose.

Zero points, 56 yards, and ten minutes TOP in 5he second half will wear down any defense.

I know you are trying to back up your previous post. That is fine. Sty asked me from someone with some coaching experience what I would do. I stand by what I said. Not everyone would do the same, if so coaches would be clones.

Borderline winning is not winning. Sounds like a coin flip to me.

True missing Kelce hurt the offense. It is still an 11 player team on offense. I won't put all the blame on Smith. The entire offense did not play well in the 2nd half.

If you want the post to be about Alex Smith. I think the Redskins took a step back at QB. coach will say Cousin's didn't want to sign. In part he is right, Cousin's did indicate he wanted to experience the FA process. Maybe the FO did the best they could THIS year based on what Cousin's said. As I have pointed out before when they had the chance to sign him a couple of years ago they blew it. They did not have the foresight to see they had a good player. That lack of foresight also cost them a DB they did not have to lose.

So back to your post. I agree it was terrible 2nd half offense. It was also terrible 2nd half defense. It was a team loss. Losing Kelce clearly hurt. KC clearly lost the 2nd half on both sides of the LOS. How many yards did Kareem Hunt have? 42.

 

[Stymietee]

So now I'm curious, in the first half when the defense held them to 3 points, is it being suggested that same mindset changed in the second half? In fact, I'll bet in the halftime defensive meeting that's exactly what was talked about. (holding them to 3)

I'm not excusing the offense either, but like @Sportster 72 stated, it's a team game and 1/3 of the team is defense. They had a job to do as well and they apparently did it well in the first half, not so much in the second.

 

[Sharkinva]

So now I'm curious, in the first half when the defense held them to 3 points, is it being suggested that same mindset changed in the second half? In fact, I'll bet in the halftime defensive meeting that's exactly what was talked about. (holding them to 3)

I'm not excusing the offense either, but like @Sportster 72 stated, it's a team game and 1/3 of the team is defense. They had a job to do as well and they apparently did it well in the first half, not so much in the second.

Agreed the team lost, not just the QB or the Defense, or the offense.

Problem is and will remain the same as it has been the past three years when it comes to this fan base.

There are the rules for our QB, then the rules for every one else. Depending one WHO the QB is at the time portions of this fan base set unrealistic expectations. I will be curious to see how forgiving some of the more adamant fans are with the current QB. Because the goal posts are already shifting closer.

 

[Skins2021]

Foles has done something Alex Smith will never do in his career...

Win a superbowl.

Way more long term optimism if Foles was the skins QB as Opposed to Alex Smith for Fuller and a 3rd