Tank for Jones / 2013 Draft Thread

[4thstreet]

i would be intrigued by richards if the rags do buy him out.. the flyers just dont have the cap space, even if he got like 2 mil

unless he can play defence or net-fuck him!

 

[awaz]

getting back to the draft a little.. i really liked what i saw of hartman at world juniors.. thought he was one of the US's better players

Ryan Hartman (Plymouth, OHL): A projected second-round pick, Hartman is a little "ball of hate" power forward in the mold of someone like Pat Verbeek, Kevin Dineen or Steve Downie. He may stand just 5-foot-11 and weigh 185 pounds but he plays like a tasmanian devil in the way he forechecks and stirs up trouble both between and after the whistles. Let's put it this way: Hartman plays more of a traditional power forward style than many big finesse forwards who are classified with that designation based solely on their size. Hartman has a low center of gravity and no one underestimates his pound-for-pound strength twice. He's hard to take off the puck and, in fact, often separates much larger players from the disc. Originally a product of the US National Team Development Program, Hartman moved to the OHL this past season. He's not a natural goal scorer but tallies a lot of gritty goals around the net and has an extra skating gear in key situations. His defensive play is adequate but could stand improvement. The biggest challenge for him may be walking the discipline line because he's the type of player who needs to push the envelope to be effective and yet also has to cut back on the number of bad penalties he takes.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill...rds-in-2013-Draft-Connections-Matter/45/51825

 

[lasgop8]

unless he can play defence or net-fuck him!

 

[lasgop8]

getting back to the draft a little.. i really liked what i saw of hartman at world juniors.. thought he was one of the US's better players



HockeyBuzz.com - Bill Meltzer - Meltzer's Musings: Power Forwards in 2013 Draft, Connections Matter

Mike mcarron 6'5 228 looks like a nice power forward type.

 

[4thstreet]

getting back to the draft a little.. i really liked what i saw of hartman at world juniors.. thought he was one of the US's better players



HockeyBuzz.com - Bill Meltzer - Meltzer's Musings: Power Forwards in 2013 Draft, Connections Matter

IMO I'd rather they get some forwards that have skill,but also some size.

Giroux,Briere,Laughton,Read,Wellwood(if/when plays) are all under 6'0 ft.They can only take so many hits.

 

[awaz]

IMO I'd rather they get some forwards that have skill,but also some size.

Giroux,Briere,Laughton,Read,Wellwood(if/when plays) are all under 6'0 ft.They can only take so many hits.

giroux is a rugged dude and throws the body and hitting might be laughton's best attribute.. plus they have simmonds and hartnell that play that game.. plus the 4th line guys.. IMO they need more skill than they do size.. same as on the back-end

JMO though

 

[lasgop8]

giroux is a rugged dude and throws the body and hitting might be laughton's best attribute.. plus they have simmonds and hartnell that play that game.. plus the 4th line guys.. IMO they need more skill than they do size.. same as on the back-end

JMO though

Awaz did you really just put into writing that giroux is a rugged dude and throws the body. Thanks i needed that it's a slow day.

 

[awaz]

Awaz did you really just put into writing that giroux is a rugged dude and throws the body. Thanks i needed that it's a slow day.

he is man.. he doesn't do it all the time, but the hit on crosby in the playoffs last year isn't the only time he's thrown a check.. i have 0 concerns about giroux's ability to withstand checking

having a team full of pulverizers doesn't win hockey games any more. thats just a fact.

 

[4thstreet]

he is man.. he doesn't do it all the time, but the hit on crosby in the playoffs last year isn't the only time he's thrown a check.. i have 0 concerns about giroux's ability to withstand checking

having a team full of pulverizers doesn't win hockey games any more. thats just a fact.

getting back to my point-I'm simply stating that a forward with size and skill,is going to be able to withstand getting banged about constantly a lot easier than these little guys that the Flyers keep grabbing at forward spots.

Take a look at the Pens defence for example-what they have now,but more importantly,their prospects.They all average over 6'3 and 200 pounds.
5'10 180 lb guys just can't sustain the punishment doled out by these guys for too long.

 

[lasgop8]

he is man.. he doesn't do it all the time, but the hit on crosby in the playoffs last year isn't the only time he's thrown a check.. i have 0 concerns about giroux's ability to withstand checking

having a team full of pulverizers doesn't win hockey games any more. thats just a fact.

Nobody here is debating the fact that having a team of pulverizers doesnt win games anymore so i dont know why you put that in your post but the fact that you actually have convinced yourself that Giroux is a rugged player concerns me. Have you been having martini's for lunch today if so i say cheers . Giroux doesnt throw hits and other teams dont hit him out of respect of his ability, if he tried to play the checking game his top rated skill would be diminished considerably.Having size and skill is a way better route to winning in the playoffs as boston is proving again this year.

 

[mall3013]

I thought Dan Boyle is a UFA? I wouldn't mind bringing him in.

 

[awaz]

Nobody here is debating the fact that having a team of pulverizers doesnt win games anymore so i dont know why you put that in your post but the fact that you actually have convinced yourself that Giroux is a rugged player concerns me. Have you been having martini's for lunch today if so i say cheers . Giroux doesnt throw hits and other teams dont hit him out of respect of his ability, if he tried to play the checking game his top rated skill would be diminished considerably.Having size and skill is a way better route to winning in the playoffs as boston is proving again this year.

hitting isn't giroux's primary focus and he's not built to play a hitting game.. but he hasn't had a problem when games have gotten physical.. might jinx him here, but his only significant injury came from simmonds' knee, not a check from another player

obviously size and skill are preferrable, but it's not like those guys grow on trees.. and you're just as likely to pick that size+skill combo and end up with a soft as baby doo-doo player.. i know you don't forget JvR's 'tenacity'

 

[lasgop8]

I thought Dan Boyle is a UFA? I wouldn't mind bringing him in.

My feeling is we stand pat this season unless Homer swings for the fences which i doubt. a guy like Boyle would cost too much, i think we have defenseman that may have to start earning their salaries this season and i think they will with a new fresh puck moving goalie.

 

[lasgop8]

Guys have a great evening it's miller time!

 

[awaz]

My feeling is we stand pat this season unless Homer swings for the fences which i doubt. a guy like Boyle would cost too much, i think we have defenseman that may have to start earning their salaries this season and i think they will with a new fresh puck moving goalie.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[awaz]

Guys have a great evening it's miller time!

Going to watch the railhawks get destroyed by the La galaxy. Good timess

 

[mall3013]

Have a good night boys. See you sometime tomorrow.

 

[raptorlife4]

I was thinking it may make sense to kick the tires in San Jose. Maybe they will break up the Thornton, Marleau combo.
Id love Boyle for the right price. Move Coburn and sign Boyle?
I think Marleau would be amazing in Philly

 

[mall3013]

I was thinking it may make sense to kick the tires in San Jose. Maybe they will break up the Thornton, Marleau combo.
Id love Boyle for the right price. Move Coburn and sign Boyle?
I think Marleau would be amazing in Philly

I've always liked Marleau. I don't think the Sharks have the nuts to break them up.

 

[lasgop8]

Going to watch the railhawks get destroyed by the La galaxy. Good timess

At least you have gotten to see the Beckham farewell tour.