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JDM

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No, it's not cheap. That's twice the amount of money that was charged a regular season game.

You want to know how I know it's not cheap? Because it's not sold out.

You're lack of understanding of markets is comical.

The other games will sell out. Yours may even sell out as well.

That doesn't mean the tickets aren't dirt cheap. Half the teams in the league would sell out in less than 5 minutes if tickets were that low.
 

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The other games will sell out. Yours may even sell out as well.

That doesn't mean the tickets aren't dirt cheap. Half the teams in the league would sell out in less than 5 minutes if tickets were that low.

Half the teams in the league have market sizes that are three times or more bigger than Cincinnati. That's not an interesting statistic.

100 dollars for a ticket is not dirt cheap with reference to median incomes and numbers of people in the market.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?
 

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Because that doesn't matter. The NFL is in the business of making money. If you can't even sell out some of the cheapest tickets in the league, then why should the NFL keep a franchise there in the first place?
 

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Two other games are still not sold out this weekend. Only the Eagles game is sold out.
 

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Because that doesn't matter. The NFL is in the business of making money. If you can't even sell out some of the cheapest tickets in the league, then why should the NFL keep a franchise there in the first place?

Ticket sales have very little to do with total revenue in the NFL.

If you want a 'marker' of fan interest, you look at tv ratings during telecast of games. What percentage of houses have the game on the television. This is where the NFL makes all of it's change -- Broadcast revenue.

If you wanted to, you could make an argument that the NFL should move all small market teams to bigger markets -- Put two in LA, another team in NY, another in NE and another in DC. But this isn't the best way to do business. It takes a while for a team to secure a regional identity and they worry about saturating the market.
 

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Because that doesn't matter. The NFL is in the business of making money. If you can't even sell out some of the cheapest tickets in the league, then why should the NFL keep a franchise there in the first place?

if you think that the ticket revenue is where the NFL is making money....LOL@you.

TV/media is where all the real money comes from.

Tickets are inconsequential.

NE would have long lost a team if sell-outs were mandatory. Right around the same 90's time that the Bengals would have as well...as well as the Browns, and just about 60% of the other league teams that don't sell out every game when they hit rough patches.

This is really a non-issue.

Either it will sell out, or it won't.

Life, and football, will go on. No one is losing a team, and no one teams' fans are less because they have other priorities that take up their money, time, expectations, etc....
 

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New England has sold out every game since Kraft took over.

As long as we have an QB and coach worth having it will sell out.

Boston fans are the most fair-weather fans in the country. They couldn't jump off the redsox bandwagon fast enough during Bobby V's year in town
 

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He's trying to count the whole region as potential ticket buyers, but either way, $100 dollars for any NFL game anywhere is cheap as hell. I'm not sure you could get a preseason game here for that.

Get over yourself.

I can grab a Pats PLAYOFF game ticket for 140 dollars on StubHub right now. Playoff tickets sold for a minimum of 100 dollars, so that means the secondary market is only gaining 40 dollars on a ticket.

That doesn't exactly reflect a 'tough' market.
 

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Ticket sales have very little to do with total revenue in the NFL.

If you want a 'marker' of fan interest, you look at tv ratings during telecast of games. What percentage of houses have the game on the television. This is where the NFL makes all of it's change -- Broadcast revenue.

If you wanted to, you could make an argument that the NFL should move all small market teams to bigger markets -- Put two in LA, another team in NY, another in NE and another in DC. But this isn't the best way to do business. It takes a while for a team to secure a regional identity and they worry about saturating the market.

And neither does the ad revenue for the small market unwilling to support their team.
 

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They don't pay 100 bucks a game for their season tickets. I don't blame them for not wanting to pay that for the playoffs.

Hey grad, could you merge these two threads, please?
 

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And neither does the ad revenue for the small market unwilling to support their team.

You seem to correlate supporting with ticket sales.

So, you're saying that fans in GB won't support the Packers?

Or that fans in IND don't support the Colts?

There are many, many ways to support a team. The 1974 rule of NFL blackouts is as outdated a model as you can get. Just because fans in 2014 don't want to attend a game in person does not mean that any of those fans are less loyal, supportive, etc...

You have no basis for any argument, at least with any rational adult that understands market-place based economics.
 

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one reason they aren't selling tickets, the folks around here aren't smart enough to figure out the "type this to verify you are human" portion of the ticket buying online.
 

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Outstanding from Jeff Ruby:

It would be embarrassing if the city can’t get the game sold out but the problem is the the same people who have paid for the stadium can not watch the game on television,” Ruby said. “When the richest sports league in the country is telling people that are not wealthy enough to purchase a ticket to go the game that they can’t watch the game, that is obscene. I have nothing against the Bengals, this is an NFL thing. If this continues, the NFL will stand for No Fans Left.”

He has bought 100 tickets and donating them to Military Families. Nice job, Jeff.
 

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one reason they aren't selling tickets, the folks around here aren't smart enough to figure out the "type this to verify you are human" portion of the ticket buying online.

I blame it on George Bush................
 

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And neither does the ad revenue for the small market unwilling to support their team.

Again, you completely miss the point.

TV ratings for Bengals games have never been higher. Local revenues made off the tv broadcast are doing fine.

You're a little thick-skulled.
 

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I blame it on George Bush................

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Just went on to ticketmaster to see what was available. I clicked 'best available' for two seats. The seats available were in the first row of rowdy endzone. Horrible sight lines, but good chances to see a felony. Who's in?
 

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Green Bay, Indy and Cincy got ticket extensions. Three cities are having issues selling out.
 

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So all three teams get extended. Cincy has until 4 pm today to sell out, Indy has until 4:30 pm today, and Green Bay has until 5 pm today. Why the different times?
 

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So all three teams get extended. Cincy has until 4 pm today to sell out, Indy has until 4:30 pm today, and Green Bay has until 5 pm today. Why the different times?

Green Bay swallowed.
 
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