So Georgia is Out Now, Right?

[trojanfan12]

They had a chance to prove that they should have been in. Georgia manned up and seized the chance for redemption. In marked contrast, Florida State pouted and sulked, and the result was a 63-3 beatdown and the subsequent sinking of the FSU program. Apparently some people are still pouting and sulking.

How they reacted to not being included in the playoff has zero to do with why they were left out or whether or not they should have been left out.

 

[trojanfan12]

If we had to pick from 4 teams then yes I'd leave KC out in that scenario

That would be stupid and wrong.

 

[Think McFly Think]

If we had to pick from 4 teams then yes I'd leave KC out in that scenario

Wentz hater

 

[UK Cowboy]

So now that Beck is done for the year, Georgia has to be removed from the Playoff, right?

I mean, that was the standard set by the Committee last year -- if a team loses their quarterback, they are out of the Playoff, regardless of what they may have accomplished during the season.

Or wait, let me guess, different rules will be made-up on the fly to advantage SEC teams? Quelle surprise. Apparently Florida State should have hidden the extent of Travis' injury until it was too late.

How did FSU do in their bowl game minus their QB BTW? I'll bet you Georgia fares better

 

[Ojb81]

As you might be aware, no undefeated major conference champion has ever been excluded -- except one who lost their quarterback -- so like I said, rules were made-up on the fly to advantage SEC teams.

And that's the issue. If we're going to pretend that any of this is meaningful, there have to be some rules, or standards. The standard was set last year -- and now you want to ignore it this year. Apparently in both cases due to the misguided belief that the SEC is vastly superior, when there is precious little, if any, evidence of that found on actual football fields.

just because xyz happened BEFORE your beloved seminoles were excluded, doesn't mean that it would be a surefire guarantee that they WOULD HAVE been selected, even without the quarterback's injury.

 

[Nat Mann]

How they reacted to not being included in the playoff has zero to do with why they were left out or whether or not they should have been left out.

Never said it did. But if the reason they were left out was that they wouldn't be competitive, losing 63-3 did nothing to dispel that notion.

 

[Nat Mann]

And? In what other sport do we disqualify teams from the playoffs for losing their QB/star player? If the Chiefs lose Mahomes at the end of the regular season...are they kept out of the playoffs?

Why should cfb be the only sport that does this?

The notion that losing your QB means disqualification is a rule is a figment of the OP's imagination.

The bottom line is that the CFP is to a degree an invitational tournament. When there were only 4 places, sometimes teams that deserved to go didn't get in. Now that there are more places, everybody that truly, unquestionably deserves to go gets in.

 

[trojanfan12]

Never said it did.

This you?

They had a chance to prove that they should have been in. Georgia manned up and seized the chance for redemption. In marked contrast, Florida State pouted and sulked, and the result was a 63-3 beatdown and the subsequent sinking of the FSU program.

The problem has been rectified this year. With 12 teams in, FSU had every chance to be in this year - if the program hadn't imploded.

What they had the chance to do this year, has zero to do with what happened to them last year.

 

[trojanfan12]

The notion that losing your QB means disqualification is a rule is a figment of the OP's imagination.

Really? Other than losing their QB...what did FSU, as an unbeaten Power Conference champion, do to deserve to be excluded from the playoff? Something that had never happened before.

Additionally, that wasn't just OP saying that...literally everyone said the same thing at the time FSU was left out.

 

[PIBuckeye]

There are also 12 teams instead of 4

Obviously FSU would've been in last year with 12

^ this
Slightly more stringent criteria to make the field of 4 vs 12.

And…..

Most rational people see and know that Georgia without Beck is way better than Florida st without whatshisnameagain…..

 

[Stakesarehigh]

^ this
Slightly more stringent criteria to make the field of 4 vs 12.

And…..

Most rational people see and know that Georgia without Beck is way better than Florida st without whatshisnameagain…..

Travis lol

 

[Beengay fudgepackers]

No, I think they are still in.

 

[Nat Mann]

How they reacted to not being included in the playoff has zero to do with why they were left out or whether or not they should have been left out.

I agree. The passage I wrote that you seem to think says otherwise has NOTHING to do with why they were left out and everything to do with how the reacted to it:

They had a chance to prove that they should have been in. Georgia manned up and seized the chance for redemption. In marked contrast, Florida State pouted and sulked, and the result was a 63-3 beatdown and the subsequent sinking of the FSU program. Apparently some people are still pouting and sulking.

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The problem has been rectified this year. With 12 teams in, FSU had every chance to be in this year - if the program hadn't imploded.

What they had the chance to do this year, has zero to do with what happened to them last year.

I agree. I don't know how my quote above was interpreted to be about what happened last year.

 

[dtgold88]

So now that Beck is done for the year, Georgia has to be removed from the Playoff, right?

I mean, that was the standard set by the Committee last year -- if a team loses their quarterback, they are out of the Playoff, regardless of what they may have accomplished during the season.

Or wait, let me guess, different rules will be made-up on the fly to advantage SEC teams? Quelle surprise. Apparently Florida State should have hidden the extent of Travis' injury until it was too late.

SEC does often get some favoritism but you are really finding absurd things to cry about.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Tell me again what happened to Florida st in their bowl game last season?
I can’t remember

 

[trojanfan12]

I agree. The passage I wrote that you seem to think says otherwise has NOTHING to do with why they were left out and everything to do with how the reacted to it:


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I agree. I don't know how my quote above was interpreted to be about what happened last year.

You used what happened to them in the bowl game and the "sulking" to justify them not being included in the cfp and you also used them not making the cfp this year, to justify them not getting in last year.

If that's not what you were doing, then why bring either up at all?

 

[trojanfan12]

Tell me again what happened to Florida st in their bowl game last season?
I can’t remember

What does that have to do with them not getting into the cfp?

 

[Nat Mann]

You used what happened to them in the bowl game and the "sulking" to justify them not being included in the cfp and you also used them not making the cfp this year, to justify them not getting in last year.

If that's not what you were doing, then why bring either up at all?

No. What happened in the bowl game supports that the committee's decision was right. But what happened to FSU AFTER the decision is somewhat interesting, but it does not mean it caused or influenced the decision. That would require time travel, which I am already on record as opposing as a means of evaluating teams.

 

[trojanfan12]

What happened in the bowl game supports that the committee's decision was right.

No it doesn't. If memory serves, several of their players who would have played in the cfp, chose not to play in the bowl game. So it would have been a much better team in the cfp.

But what happened to FSU AFTER the decision is somewhat interesting, but it does not mean it caused or influenced the decision.

Yet you're using it to justify them not getting in.

I ask again, Other than losing their QB...what did FSU, as an unbeaten Power Conference champion, do to deserve to be excluded from the playoff? Something that had never happened before.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

FSU won their biggest contest of the season and then proceeded to not beat a top 15 team the rest of the year.

The conundrum for the committee was Bama beating Georgia of which Texas beat Bama. You can't leave out Bama who just beat the defending champs who were undefeated, which then leaves Texas.

Regardless of all the hand wringing over this the committee gave us the best games and the choice was correct.

This is why 4 was never enough, and 12 is perfect despite feeling like too much. Id rather see teams prove it on the field than us play this game of crystal ball.