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Trade him before he fails another drug test.
 

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LAC- 37, 133, and a 2021 3rd is good to go

Cleveland- I would be good with 41 and 74 (or Njoku)

Arizona- 40, 135, and a 2021 3rd is decent.

NYJ- 48 and 78 wouldn’t be bad.

In all the above scenarios, I would like to push for a 1st or 2nd in 2021 instead of lower round garbage picks. The Chargers can keep their 133 and 2021 3rd, instead give us a 2021 first.

Houston- Why in the hell would we give up that much for Tunsil? No thanks.

I dont see any scenario whatsoever where the redskins give up a pick and TW. There is no reason to do that, for starters.

secondly, the redskins need all the help they can get. To that end, if moving down 12 spots nets another draft pick, as it might in some of those scenarios, I’d do that trade.
 

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I dont see any scenario whatsoever where the redskins give up a pick and TW. There is no reason to do that, for starters.

secondly, the redskins need all the help they can get. To that end, if moving down 12 spots nets another draft pick, as it might in some of those scenarios, I’d do that trade.

I am not one of those that wants late round picks. I want early picks in the first and second round. Hell, I would much rather a first rounder in 2022 over a third rounder this season. Fourth- seventh rounders mean little to me.
 

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I am not one of those that wants late round picks. I want early picks in the first and second round. Hell, I would much rather a first rounder in 2022 over a third rounder this season. Fourth- seventh rounders mean little to me.
I like all the picks
 

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I am not one of those that wants late round picks. I want early picks in the first and second round. Hell, I would much rather a first rounder in 2022 over a third rounder this season. Fourth- seventh rounders mean little to me.

This is a deep draft, and the redskins need a lot of help.

Some drafts are not as deep.

Thats why a lot of picks in this draft would be helpful, no matter the round.
 

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This is a deep draft, and the redskins need a lot of help.

Some drafts are not as deep.

Thats why a lot of picks in this draft would be helpful, no matter the round.

Almost every draft claims to be deep. Most drafts are comparable.
 

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No but the probability is he will be nothing; whereas, the probability of a first or second rounder a couple of years away hitting is far greater.
Understood. I just think those gems of hidden talent are out there in rounds 4-7 that the scouting dept must find.
 

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Understood. I just think those gems of hidden talent are out there in rounds 4-7 that the scouting dept must find.
To be honest our team has hit a pretty good amount on those picks .

yeah I get the preference GK is talking about but that wont happen much
 

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Almost every draft claims to be deep. Most drafts are comparable.

That's simply not true.

Some drafts historically were considered to be better than others. One only has to google "greatest NFL Draft Classes" to show millions of resources to support this. Here's one:

The Greatest Draft Classes in NFL History

1983 was a great year for qb's: Elway, Jim Kelly, Marino.

People knew then that it was a special class for qb's, just like they knew in 2004 when Eli Manning, Rivers, Big Ben and Matt Schaub were drafted.

Some draft classes are known to be better than others at the time they are drafted, AND obviously with the benefit of hindsight.
 

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That's simply not true.

Some drafts historically were considered to be better than others. One only has to google "greatest NFL Draft Classes" to show millions of resources to support this. Here's one:

The Greatest Draft Classes in NFL History

1983 was a great year for qb's: Elway, Jim Kelly, Marino.

People knew then that it was a special class for qb's, just like they knew in 2004 when Eli Manning, Rivers, Big Ben and Matt Schaub were drafted.

Some draft classes are known to be better than others at the time they are drafted, AND obviously with the benefit of hindsight.

I never disagreed with what you just wrote.

I stated most draft classes are comparable....MOST.

It is funny that the only two instances you have shown were QB draft classes and not entire draft classes.
 

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To be honest our team has hit a pretty good amount on those picks .

yeah I get the preference GK is talking about but that wont happen much
Me too however, they are out there and are hard to find. Glad we found Ironman.
 

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Better trade him soon or we will.not get shit
 

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I never disagreed with what you just wrote.

I stated most draft classes are comparable....MOST.

It is funny that the only two instances you have shown were QB draft classes and not entire draft classes.

If you claim that "Every draft claims to be deep. Most drafts are comparable," and then I make a post that disputes that fact - that certain drafts are not comparable either in hindsight or in real time - then you factually aren't saying the same thing as I am.

You're saying the opposite of what I'm saying.

Simple logic.


As for your other point - "it's funny that I only mentioned qb drafts" - that's because it was the easiest examples to find to prove your point wrong.

There are obviously examples of good "linebacker drafts," or good "wr drafts," or good "rb drafts" too.

There are obvious instances of "overall talented" draft classes too. This year, for example. You can easily find those online too.
 

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If you claim that "Every draft claims to be deep. Most drafts are comparable," and then I make a post that disputes that fact - that certain drafts are not comparable either in hindsight or in real time - then you factually aren't saying the same thing as I am.

You're saying the opposite of what I'm saying.

Simple logic.


As for your other point - "it's funny that I only mentioned qb drafts" - that's because it was the easiest examples to find to prove your point wrong.

There are obviously examples of good "linebacker drafts," or good "wr drafts," or good "rb drafts" too.

There are obvious instances of "overall talented" draft classes too. This year, for example. You can easily find those online too.

Dude...MOST doesn’t mean all. It specifically implies not all.

easiest=laziest

when you say a draft is deep, then it is based on overall talent. If you want to say a QB class is deep, you say a QB class.
 

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Dude...MOST doesn’t mean all. It specifically implies not all.

easiest=laziest

when you say a draft is deep, then it is based on overall talent. If you want to say a QB class is deep, you say a QB class.

This last post doesn't address what I wrote above it. You simply can't get out of your own way.

The facts are that there have always been drafts that, in real time, are considered "deeper" both overall and by position. I provided easy examples of the latter.
 

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This last post doesn't address what I wrote above it. You simply can't get out of your own way.

The facts are that there have always been drafts that, in real time, are considered "deeper" both overall and by position. I provided easy examples of the latter.

It addresses what you said perfectly. I never claimed ALL drafts are equal. I said MOST, which means there are outliers. You keep making claims that I say something that I have never said. Perhaps you can’t actually interpret the English language.

Every year there are claims about a draft being deep, with few exceptions. Then they turn out to be bust drafts.

I never claimed there were not drafts that claimed to be deep by position. You wanted to look at Marino’s draft but my point is proven by Culpepper’s draft. Five QBs in the top 12. Every year is the next great whatever.
 
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