Shawn Thornton Gets 15 Games

[Comeds]

I was thinking 20-25 and sadly I was expecting it too. Oh well. Wrong again.

Blindsiding a player after a whistle with a slew foot and punching him to the ground must not be as serious as I thought. I'll learn.

 

[Comeds]

When is Marchand's hearing for trying to take out Kneel's knee with a headbutt?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

here is a serious question. does anyone know if Bertuzzi appealed his suspension when he suckered moore?

I don't believe so Matty.

His was a special case though, not just because of the severity of the incident, but also because of the timing.

He was suspended indefinitely, which equated to about 20 games I think, but then it was the end of the season and the CBA expired. So even if that particular CBA had an appeal clause it in (which, we know for sure would not have included the neutral arbitrator clause since that was new this year), with the pending expiration, it's hard to say if any appeal would have even been valid.

 

[mattola]

His was a special case though, not just because of the severity of the incident, but also because of the timing.

He was suspended indefinitely, which equated to about 20 games I think, but then it was the end of the season and the CBA expired. So even if that particular CBA had an appeal clause it in (which, we know for sure would not have included the neutral arbitrator clause since that was new this year), with the pending expiration, it's hard to say if any appeal would have even been valid.

You are very correct, the premeditated words made it so much worse. Bertuzzi actually got very lucky as well, if not for the lockout he may have gone another year. By all accounts Bertuzzi should have been banned for life (much like McSorley was "banned" for the Brashere assault)

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Bertuzzi actually got very lucky as well, if not for the lockout he may have gone another year. By all accounts Bertuzzi should have been banned for life (much like McSorley was "banned" for the Brashere assault)

Agreed. He did sorta get another year though since the IIHF upheld his NHL ban during the lockout. Obviously didn't lose out on anything close to an NHL level salary though.

 

[element1286]

I get what you're saying, but like Jared, I have worked in union environments on both sides. I've seen unions defend members in cases where it was union member vs union member (assualt, theft, etc). The union lawyer is not necessarily siding with one member over the other. The union lawyer's only concern is fighting any type of precedent set by management.

I understand that is their job to represent players, but that is a very strange position to take. Are they representing the players? Or just representing opposition to management in general?

 

[wings-pens2166]

I understand that is their job to represent players, but that is a very strange position to take. Are they representing the players? Or just representing opposition to management in general?

from my experience (take that for what you will), it's pretty much this. they may not say it, but I believe the general thought is union members come and go, but any precedent set by management will remain, so they need to do whatever they can to mitigate that.

 

[Jared]

I understand that is their job to represent players, but that is a very strange position to take. Are they representing the players? Or just representing opposition to management in general?

You hit it exactly. It is opposition to management. The fear is that if management is allowed to impose a lengthier suspension than "normal", that this will become the new normal.

I don't think anyone is arguing that its right, and I am just guessing for sure, but that's how this stuff has always worked in my experience. It just doesn't seem that anyone involved really wants the game to change. They all say they do, but the actions of the players who say they want hits to the head out of the game, the NHL who says they are primarily concerned with safety, and the union who should be protecting (literally, from not being able to remember your address at 45 years old) their membership sure seem to say otherwise.

In terms of the Neal (Kneel, lol) suspension, I agree that it should have been longer. The fact that it wasn't a hit to the head and that Marchand is widely regarding as a POS (which shouldn't matter in this case) probably were a factor.

 

[Comeds]

Anybody see this from Yahoo's Puck Daddy?

Boston Bruins: Guess the thing Claude Julien is upset about: “[W]hat happened, that’s definitely not something we will accept in our organization.” Did you guess having an enforcer slewfoot and knock an unsuspecting player unconscious? Sorry, that's incorrect; when asked about that incident, Julien said, “The only thing I’m going to say is let’s not just look one way here. There’s a lot of blame to go all around.” The answer we were looking for is “Brad Marchand kissed a pretend Stanley Cup ring.” So remember, all you kids out there, you can concuss anyone you want with a cowardly sneak attack, but if you taunt an opponent you're going to get called to the principal's office. What a wonderful and not at all embarrassing organization.

Hes normally very Bruin friendly too.

 

[BF4L]

These forums are pretty Bruins friendly too.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

should have been 20 not 15 and Kneels should have been 12 not 5

The perfect grade comes from the smooth and seamless incorporation of Kneel into this post.

 

[mattola]

These forums are pretty Bruins friendly too.

Canucks went through that a couple years ago as well. sometimes your team just gets that reputation whether deserved or not over a few bad actions by its players. its the way the sport goes

 

[mattola]

The perfect grade comes from the smooth and seamless incorporation of Kneel into this post.

the funny part is that its automatic now to call him that haha

 

[dash]

Marchand needs to stop taunting and start scoring...

 

[BF4L]

Marchand needs to stop taunting and start scoring...

His act is getting old when he is playing the way he is playing. in the SCF he registered 0 points in 6 games. This year has not been good for him either.

 

[bt08]

These forums are pretty Bruins friendly too.

they're just jealous, when you suck no one cares

 

[dash]

DarrenDreger: Pending union approval, Thornton's appeal hearing with Gary Bettman expected to take place by the end of the week.

 

[Judge Fudge]

DarrenDreger: Pending union approval, Thornton's appeal hearing with Gary Bettman expected to take place by the end of the week.

 

[dboy97]

DarrenDreger: Pending union approval, Thornton's appeal hearing with Gary Bettman expected to take place by the end of the week.

I heard it will be Friday morning.

 

[dash]

I heard it will be Friday morning.

You heard correctly sir.

Bruins' Thornton has appeal hearing with Bettman on Friday