Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[NWinAZ]

Healthy haniger...is a good haniger.
Dh..a bit more..i know that.

Still can RF though..and that matters as well....

He is missing the greatest ability...availability.

 

[NWinAZ]

Final stats for offseason's OF free agents we passed on vs trading for Wanker:

 

[ulmax]

2b added..anderson
..300 hitter

Julio..what is not to like...come on

France...mariners d ont have a better
1b...so he had a down year..1/2 the league..had that..from changed balls


Haniger..he can still bring it..and when he gets hot

Conforto..already said above

Suarez...made me forget seager..
Fair wind following seas

Lewis...if rookie lewis is back I hope he is
I dk if he will ever run as good..but if he can LF..RF..im good with it..and hit 250 260..with hrs..yeah. baby..

Raliegh..is just getting better..


Crawford..no gold glove this year.. but he is good..270..about half the year..
Was going down at the end..
I'm good with crawford..

 

[ulmax]

Final stats for offseason's OF free agents we passed on vs trading for Wanker:

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Also shows k rate..winker 18pct..low on that list..
BB pct...15.6..pct high on that list..

 

[ulmax]

Winker will be back..thats why I trade him
To minnesota..they need a DH and
W inker suffers on defence..

This is where W inker will
Do well next year...
Both leagues play eachother...
Everyone..playes everyone..

W inker will do well..but..yeah
I need to trade him as well

 

[ulmax]

Also shows k rate..winker 18pct..low on that list..
BB pct...15.6..pct high on that list..

Ya need 3 guys who are..good at gitting on base..trade winker..=70

Billy bean..money ball

Get conforto..=60
.lololo lp

 

[NWinAZ]

I keep reading rumors on twitter about Winker missing the last game. Anybody know anything about that?

 

[NWinAZ]

Another realistic try thinking like a Mariners GM:

C - Raleigh
1B - France
2B - Drury or Trade
3B - Suarez
SS - Crawford
LF - Nimmo
CF - JRod
RF - Conforto
DH - Haniger

Bench - Moore, Haggerty, Toro, Murphy

SP's: Castillo, Gilbert, Kirby, Ray, A Rookie from AA

Taylor Rogers and mostly the same as this year.

I see Marco, Flexen, Trammell, Torrens, and Maybe Kelenic traded for a 2B, RP, and prospects.

Winker? Will he play again with his back/neck? Even if healthy will he be a Mariner?

 

[ulmax]

Winker..84
Eu=genuino suarez..70 base on balls

Crawford..BB...68..

H aniger have more disapline back in 18
Had 70..last year..58

Conforto.
...60..in a bad 2021..for him...before that
84..and that is the conforto..i think..seattle ..will get. There are reasons his stats are down...he should be healthy
After a year off..

And that would make 3 and 4..base on balls guys..

If you count..haniger..

 

[ulmax]

Another realistic try thinking like a Mariners GM:

C - Raleigh
1B - France
2B - Drury or Trade
3B - Suarez
SS - Crawford
LF - Nimmo
CF - JRod
RF - Conforto
DH - Haniger

Bench - Moore, Haggerty, Toro, Murphy

SP's: Castillo, Gilbert, Kirby, Ray, A Rookie from AA

Taylor Rogers and mostly the same as this year.

I see Marco, Flexen, Trammell, Torrens, and Maybe Kelenic traded for a 2B, RP, and prospects.

Winker? Will he play again with his back/neck? Even if healthy will he be a Mariner?

They did not take him to the playoffs
That..is like ..a snub...better trade him.
..
.ya know..

I'll go with rodgers..works for me..

 

[wazzu31]

Actually the opposite IMO. He wanted him, but didn't want to give up assets and have him walk which I agree with. But now all it costs is money so not sure why he would not want him now. I could care less if we get him, but because Dipoto had interest earlier it leads me to believe he will target him again.

I don’t think there would’ve been anyone besides a PTBL. From all “experts” Seattle overpaid for Castillo and SD didn’t give up anything significant for him. He has to overpay for a free agent, so it wouldn’t make sense why not to trade for a dude first. Outside of Kendrys Morales, essentially every player who has been in Seattle has fallen in love with the Seattle.

He isn’t Target A, but they need a 2B. Ideally Seattle gets a SS and forces JP to move to 2B. JP got a gold glove but so did Evan White so it doesn’t mean you are owed a spot.

 

[wazzu31]

I see Hancock as trade bait to get a position player we can't get in free agency. I am fine if he stays. Never have enough young arms. Taylor Dollard is the other one I am guessing. They also have a Bryce Miller so I like the depth and I hope they keep it, but inability to sign guys may cause them to deal some. I think Brash pushes his way back into starting as well.

I don’t mind at all if Hancock is trade bait but I can’t see anyone who Seattle who get at the moment who he would be the main piece. I haven’t looked very hard at who could be available but A. Jerry doesn’t like one year guys B. It seems at moment most dudes who will be on the market seem to be pitchers which is a lateral move. They don’t need pitching, they need position players. We literally just were shown we can have 5 Kirby’s but you need an offense.

Turner is my number 1 want. But selling the farm for Ohtani is my number 2.

 

[wazzu31]

The money is there for everyone. The choice to spend it is always the question.


Agreed and still not a Correa fan though he is a big upgrade.


They will keep JRod happy and play him where he wants to play is my thought. Two outfielders are needed and we don't have another starter in the organization.

I like a rotating DH unless there is just a stud DH like Nelson Cruz of a few years back. We have too many positionless players who need to rotate at DH.

It should be fun and interesting offseason.

Rotating a DH is fine, which is why I like putting France there because he can play 1B and 3B. I do not like the option of leaving it open because they need to leave it open for dudes who can’t play in the field without getting injured like Lewis or if they resign Haniger. As well as I am sick of playing infielders like Haggerty and Dylan Moore in the OF. Haggerty should be the 2B not a COF.

And I know they will make JRod happy but we saw multiple times where there were bloopers that would’ve easily been caught with a CF but he is a COF because his first step is wrong numerous times when those happen. He may grow into a good CF but right now he has made great plays but as well he has given up singles because he isn’t there yet as a gold glove CF and with the money they are about to pay him he has to be a gold glove caliber guy.

 

[ulmax]

Anderson is a RFA..i don't like giving
Draft picks....so I'll try a change
I don't really know..how restricted free
Agent works....

 

[ulmax]

Still arraez would be Good..

Nimmmo..maybe..

Need 2 bats in top 50 would be good

A rraez is..
Nimmmo I think is as well
..

 

[ulmax]

I did not realize Anderson was a
R FA I always do that...aiy yi yi


arraez...batting champ..twinn.
Mariners could use him...
Lineup

1arraez
2 Julio
3france
4haniger
5conforto
6suarez...hit 350..in playoffs..wwhhoo
Brothers..bring it...smokin..

7 Raliegh
8.kelenic /lewis..
9crawford

.10 Murphy
11 open...or moore
12 haggerty...500 on left..he is especial
13 lewis..

If nothing Chang's we are looking at the same ole thing...a lot of free agents
Will sign with there old teams...

Some wont...if tre Turner stays with LA
Ok...
IF not mariners have a chance..for something specieal..with Tre turner..

I have not heard of Anderson wanting to leave the sox so I assume he will
Stay for 2 more years..

 

[ulmax]

Moore is awsome..but mariners need
Offence...i just think a trade..
Is time..

A rraez is a Moore of sorts
.1B /2b/3b..all the spots mariners can
Use help...plus brings a bat.and leadoff....that is why
I trade for him...and Crawford base stealer at..9 hole..

I have to start there..and there are not maney other options ..that work I think

Hard to be in a bottle neck..

 

[ulmax]

Kelenic they may ask for him in minnesota i would have to say yes
Attached with the rest..for i do yet

 

[ulmax]

If they did it would most l ikly be for
An of and mayne an infield..minors
With potential..

Kepler has the same value..that is prob what they would want

 

[ulmax]

But I'll take celestino..plus..idk yet.
Kepler had a down year..still good though