Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[seahawksfan234]

Looking back at some old posts and I have to end my three obsession with Garcia to Seattle. He is way too good to play for us.

I'm sparing myself the humiliation of looking at my old posts on this thread.

Pretty sure the move I liked the most was signing A.J. Pollock.

Does anyone have any good theories why veteran hitters regress so badly when they come to Seattle? Obviously there are other numbers to take into the equation, but here is the BA/OBP/SLG/OPS of Pollock, Wong and Teoscar last year versus this year:

Pollock 2023: .165/.235/.330/.565
Pollock 2022: .245/.292/.389/.681

Teoscar 2023: .236/.272/.396/.668
Teoscar 2022: .267/.316/.491/.807

Wong 2023: .156/.250/.183/.433
Wong 2022: .251/.339/.430/.770

It just doesn't make sense to me and this has been normal for the Mariners for I want to say my entire life. Off the top of my head, only Bret Boone, Nelson Cruz, Robinson Cano, and Richie Sexson (briefly) hit as well or better than they did before coming here in the last 20+ years. I guess Jose Vidro and Jose Guillen also count but that also didn't last long.

 

[wazzu31]

I'm sparing myself the humiliation of looking at my old posts on this thread.

Pretty sure the move I liked the most was signing A.J. Pollock.

Does anyone have any good theories why veteran hitters regress so badly when they come to Seattle? Obviously there are other numbers to take into the equation, but here is the BA/OBP/SLG/OPS of Pollock, Wong and Teoscar last year versus this year:

Pollock 2023: .165/.235/.330/.565
Pollock 2022: .245/.292/.389/.681

Teoscar 2023: .236/.272/.396/.668
Teoscar 2022: .267/.316/.491/.807

Wong 2023: .156/.250/.183/.433
Wong 2022: .251/.339/.430/.770

It just doesn't make sense to me and this has been normal for the Mariners for I want to say my entire life. Off the top of my head, only Bret Boone, Nelson Cruz, Robinson Cano, and Richie Sexson (briefly) hit as well or better than they did before coming here in the last 20+ years. I guess Jose Vidro and Jose Guillen also count but that also didn't last long.

My theory is that most of the guys who come to Seattle are for the most part are done being everyday players. Doesn’t explain Teoscar but Cruz is a great example of a dude who should have been essentially done but he extended his prime and also didn’t sign for money, meaning he wasn’t trying to live up to his contract or looking for a big payday when he finished it up. But that is just a theory.

 

[MarinersBestFan]

I'm sparing myself the humiliation of looking at my old posts on this thread.

Pretty sure the move I liked the most was signing A.J. Pollock.

Does anyone have any good theories why veteran hitters regress so badly when they come to Seattle? Obviously there are other numbers to take into the equation, but here is the BA/OBP/SLG/OPS of Pollock, Wong and Teoscar last year versus this year:

Pollock 2023: .165/.235/.330/.565
Pollock 2022: .245/.292/.389/.681

Teoscar 2023: .236/.272/.396/.668
Teoscar 2022: .267/.316/.491/.807

Wong 2023: .156/.250/.183/.433
Wong 2022: .251/.339/.430/.770

It just doesn't make sense to me and this has been normal for the Mariners for I want to say my entire life. Off the top of my head, only Bret Boone, Nelson Cruz, Robinson Cano, and Richie Sexson (briefly) hit as well or better than they did before coming here in the last 20+ years. I guess Jose Vidro and Jose Guillen also count but that also didn't last long.

It's the Ted Bundy curse.

NWinAZ documented it's validity with photographic evidence.

 

[NWinAZ]

From November 14th

I heard a rumor that Braves have called at least 3 teams about Acuna Jr with Mariners being one of them. The podcasters who brought up the rumor said it was true but 0% chance M's get him. A man can dream.