Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[ulmax]

A bea trade is easly avioded with a
Free agent signing...
And mariners..keep miller..

But a twinns type trade..weather it for arraez or not..seems..the way to go..

 

[ulmax]

The prob with free agents like trevor story..

you can offer them...but they go elsewhere...cuz that is where they want

and the mariners..suffer..
They need 300 ave hitters..at least 1
then 260 270 hitter..

 

[wazzu31]

My realistic team, and by realistic I mean M's can afford this.

C - Raleigh
1B - France
2B - Drury
3B - Suarez
SS - Turner
LF - Benitendi
CF - $400M
RF - Adolis Garcia*
DH - Haniger (1 year deal)

Bench - Santana, Moore, Haggerty, Murphy

SP1 - Castillo
SP2 - Gilbert
SP3 - Rodon
SP4 - Kirby
SP5 - Ray (we are stuck with him)

CL - Diaz
RP - Munoz
RP - Taylor Rogers
RP - Brash
RP - Sewald
RP - Swanson
RP - Sadler
RP - Festa

*Trade Kelenic, Crawford, Lewis, Toro, Minor Leaguers and Pen Arms to get enough talent to get Garcia and young prospects.

They would be $200M+ in payroll but the fans showed they would fill the place if a winner was made.

I agree but I can’t see Drury. From all reports Jerry didn’t want Drury because he was going to be a free agent. In no way does it make sense if Jerry was high on him he wouldn’t have made him included in the Castillo deal since what they gave up could’ve easily included both.

I don’t think they are going to add a starter. They got two guys from the minors who will be on the roster, Hancock and I can’t remember the other dudes name right now.

I’d love Diaz but 0% chance Jerry is going to spend the money on him, when realistically he has a better version of Diaz in Munoz. Rogers on the other hand for sure. I don’t know Hader’s contract exactly but since Jerry loves dealing with SD I am wondering what they would want for him.

Turner is the number 1 ideal target if Jerry nuts up and tells JP he is a 2B in modern baseball. Correa didn’t live up to his deal this year but I can’t see how Correa and Story were on the market and Jerry said na, we got JP. Correa could’ve easily been had for the contract he was given by Minnesota.

No idea what 1B is available, but ideally they could get a 1B and SS (moving JP to 2B). France being the DH is most ideal because he can play 3B and 1B. IMO they need a penciled in DH instead of leaving it open for the rotation of Haniger and Lewis. And 1 other option I would love is for them to get a CF. Love JRod but he is a COF not a CF.

 

[ulmax]

Who I don't trade..

Hancock..RHP.

Dallard..who is the same as Miller it's either or..

With a potential..rotation..of

Hancock
Miller/macko
campbell
Berroa
woo

 

[ulmax]

Correa is already mention for phili
Who needs correa and ..i think he want p hili as well

 

[ulmax]

Anderson Ss of white Sox would work
For the mariners..and 300 hitter
And
Leadoff
29 years old would work as both..Ss/2b
Free agent..
Add your left handed guy..arraez..
And we going to the searies...lololololl

 

[ulmax]

Anderson..for sure Ss/2b...not sure how maney positions he playes..

and arreaz..1B/2B/3b..moore same

Both 300 hitters

OF will have to take care of it self..
With
conforto
and
edwin Diaz.

And moran LHP..

Yeah..2 300 hitters will certainly
give Houston compatiton

Show the money
..lolololollllo

 

[ulmax]

ulmax line up

1.anderson. 2b / ss ...arreaz 2b
2Julio rod..cf................kelenic
3.france...1b .....................arraez/ 1b
4conforto...RF/DH..L/L...haniger.../ lewis
5 Haniger....DH/RF........conforto../ lewis
6 suarez.....3B....... ..........Arreaz..L/L 3b
7Raliegh....catch ........... .murphy
8j kelenic......LF...L/L.....lewis
9 crawford...ss L/L...anderson


10 Murphy
11 arreaz..
12 haggerty
13 lewis

And go ahead and trade toro and miller for bae (left hand hitter)will at tacoma with cabellero..

Only better..would be to add binantendi..but I don't think Jedi would go that far...

 

[wazzu31]

For those of you who weren't at the game, I can tell you that was by far the most electric crowd I've ever experienced at a baseball game and this comes from someone who has probably attended around 100 Mariners home games and gone to games at a dozen different stadiums, including at Yankee Stadium when they were playing the Red Sox. The energy and the noise was that of a rivalry college football game.

My friend told me he couldn't hear this on the broadcast, but most of the Astros lineup - specifically Altuve and Bregman - was heavily boo'd as they walked up to the plate and during the AB the stadium was loudly chanting either "Cheater" or "Fuck you cheater"

In the 14th inning they played take me out to the ballgame as if it was the 7th inning stretch, lol. Tough loss. Spent $330 on my ticket (was first row in section 108), but despite the loss that'll be a game I never forget.

I guarantee 163 in 95 and Cortez’ one playoff game against Miami I think in 99 in the dome were more electric. When Cortez came out my ears essentially started bleeding. And every strikeout out after Sojo’s inside the park grand slam the park was on fire. But point taken and jealous you got to go. I got to go to 1 playoff game in 2001 and from what I hear your crowd was 1,000 times better than any 2001 crowd.

 

[NWinAZ]

I agree but I can’t see Drury. From all reports Jerry didn’t want Drury because he was going to be a free agent. In no way does it make sense if Jerry was high on him he wouldn’t have made him included in the Castillo deal since what they gave up could’ve easily included both.

Actually the opposite IMO. He wanted him, but didn't want to give up assets and have him walk which I agree with. But now all it costs is money so not sure why he would not want him now. I could care less if we get him, but because Dipoto had interest earlier it leads me to believe he will target him again.

 

[NWinAZ]

I don’t think they are going to add a starter. They got two guys from the minors who will be on the roster, Hancock and I can’t remember the other dudes name right now.

I see Hancock as trade bait to get a position player we can't get in free agency. I am fine if he stays. Never have enough young arms. Taylor Dollard is the other one I am guessing. They also have a Bryce Miller so I like the depth and I hope they keep it, but inability to sign guys may cause them to deal some. I think Brash pushes his way back into starting as well.

 

[NWinAZ]

I’d love Diaz but 0% chance Jerry is going to spend the money on him, when realistically he has a better version of Diaz in Munoz. Rogers on the other hand for sure. I don’t know Hader’s contract exactly but since Jerry loves dealing with SD I am wondering what they would want for him.

The money is there for everyone. The choice to spend it is always the question.

Turner is the number 1 ideal target if Jerry nuts up and tells JP he is a 2B in modern baseball. Correa didn’t live up to his deal this year but I can’t see how Correa and Story were on the market and Jerry said na, we got JP. Correa could’ve easily been had for the contract he was given by Minnesota.

Agreed and still not a Correa fan though he is a big upgrade.

No idea what 1B is available, but ideally they could get a 1B and SS (moving JP to 2B). France being the DH is most ideal because he can play 3B and 1B. IMO they need a penciled in DH instead of leaving it open for the rotation of Haniger and Lewis. And 1 other option I would love is for them to get a CF. Love JRod but he is a COF not a CF.

They will keep JRod happy and play him where he wants to play is my thought. Two outfielders are needed and we don't have another starter in the organization.

I like a rotating DH unless there is just a stud DH like Nelson Cruz of a few years back. We have too many positionless players who need to rotate at DH.

It should be fun and interesting offseason.

 

[SeattleCoug]

Guys I'd prefer gone:
Frazier
Winker (I get he has a year left but it didnt work out for either side, dont force it)
Haniger (sorry its time to move on)
Marco (we have enough depth here, throw him in a trade somewhere)
Kelenic (its a bummer, since it would be for pennies on the dollar but I think he's had enough of a chance)


My other bold prediction is we deal Hancock this winter in a deal for a big bat. I am not as convinced as I was about Marte never seeing Seattle but I am leaning that way.

 

[ulmax]

Back to the original post:

I don't know if you give Winker another chance or deal him for a bag of balls if you could even get that for him.

Not sure if France is the answer. Guys that fail two years in a row late in the season have to be really looked at. Same goes for Sewald and Castillo. Time is up on Haniger unless it is a reasonable one year deal and you roster him as the 4th outfielder/DH guy. Do not go into the offseason with Lewis and Kelenic inked in as making the roster. They are tryout players nothing more. Add two more stud arms for the pen. Trade Swanson since they obviously have no faith in him.

All the guys I mention have trade value
Check out
Baseball...trade value..(SAIS THAT
WITH CROSSED BATS..AND GREEN FORMAT)
THEY GO WITH
A number system..

But winker has value..

Swanson..swannie is 18.5 or something
Swannoe has a good spin rate as well
Has big value..almost equal to A rraez
20 somthing..
Murphee around 12,13
brash as well..
France..15..
Castillo.30

A 30 is good nirmal
Young super stars always get the 200
somthing...
julio...286.8

Seattle finally have guys...that are worth something to other teams

If just for referance...check it out
Sheffield dwindled..to nothing..a 0
As far as trade..
For example...

 

[NWinAZ]

My other bold prediction is we deal Hancock this winter in a deal for a big bat

I made the same prediction. Not sure why, but it just seems he isn't their favorite for whatever reason. I am good with it if it is a real bat.

 

[ulmax]

Guys I'd prefer gone:
Frazier
Winker (I get he has a year left but it didnt work out for either side, dont force it)
Haniger (sorry its time to move on)
Marco (we have enough depth here, throw him in a trade somewhere)
Kelenic (its a bummer, since it would be for pennies on the dollar but I think he's had enough of a chance)


My other bold prediction is we deal Hancock this winter in a deal for a big bat. I am not as convinced as I was about Marte never seeing Seattle but I am leaning that way.

Binantendi..is only guy on the market
worth going after...
Kelenic s trade value is down..i don't really
Know why..cuz..he is only..23 years old
around about next year..would be his normal..progrestion....so I'm still ok
With all..
Kelenic ..
Trammell.
Lewis..
One of these..will be LF.....
Or all...
That is player development..it is always
A struggle..
To control...thought process..and mechanics..or fixing

it's a constant process..
Not to meantion..knowing the pitchers

If there is trade time for out field guys
I would see trade deadline..

After
eval
Kelenic
Trammell
And lewis

I'm just waiting for all 3 of these guys to breakout..
But the mariners d ont have forever..
To wait..
So they will need to do it this year..

 

[ulmax]

I'm like to add..
Anderson..ss..chi sox..opps I said cubs

Add conforto

Arraez trade..twinns add moran LHP
In that trade as well

Diaz....from sea and mets..bull.pen

Those are my 4 big ones

 

[ulmax]

If the mariners
hitting can catch up
with..the mariners..pitching
Then they have something

2...300 ave..hitters should do that..
Anderson
And
Arraez..

One base on balls..and 30 hr guy
Ave 60 bases on balls per..close enough
conforto.
His defence..is good and has an awesome arm

.a winker...upgrade..

His car ave..is 255..260..270..when he is good..


Sluggers..are not over The hill..at 30..
That is when..they really get going..

 

[NWinAZ]

For his part, Haniger has indicated that he would prefer to remain in Seattle. Following up by saying that he hopes “to be back in a Mariners uniform for sure,” per Daniel Kramer of MLB.com.

 

[ulmax]

For his part, Haniger has indicated that he would prefer to remain in Seattle. Following up by saying that he hopes “to be back in a Mariners uniform for sure,” per Daniel Kramer of MLB.com.

Healthy haniger...is a good haniger.
Dh..a bit more..i know that.

Still can RF though..and that matters as well....