Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

[ulmax]

Wwwwhhhhhoooo..
That is a lot...
Gonzales..for minor league guys...and Lewis for snell....san diego...still gets..

Rodon...or ray..loolo this..is ====/___/_

Bull pen leaves murphee down..which is ok...but it could be brash..

 

[ulmax]

See San diego...surf...and mariners..
Rise...

 

[ulmax]

My take...ray will come up with..
An offspeed..pitch..to mess with guys timing..
He may be better off in San diego..


Only cuz..of yu darvish...who has 7 pitches..
But I think ray..will be working on...
And have an other pitch...

 

[ulmax]

Oh yeah flexxen to pittsburgh.the other guy...

 

[ulmax]

No trade values....your senario..
Won't work...cuz Reynolds trade..and flexxen value..is already..
By..... the athletic...

Already called the ball...a.0.3 for flexxen
Will not work..he is a better pitcher..than that...same for ..hancock.....
It's my opinion...that the midwest has no
interest..in ..evaluating..players..correctly
Unless..it is for...a team....in the midwest..

So much..for..correct..trade value...

Whatch..out trade values.
.your midwest..

Is showing.....
Or may west...i always get that one confused..
Lololol

 

[ulmax]

Flexxen was 14=7last year..this year
Is 9=8..or somthing..the prob was..
For about 5 games...flexen was having.. no love....like no hit support...no pitcher..
Can winn...like that..so he ends up being
a 50= 50...guy...that is not right...
For him to take the blame..for lack..of
offencive..production...


Which was writen...about..by Seattle Times and..prob every..news..agents..

That have an ear...to the mariners..
As the athletic..seems to..knowing what kind of pitcher..flexen is...they recommend
Pittsburgh...ok...i will go with...that..
Not trade values..eval...

 

[seahawksfan234]

I don't either in regards to Marco UNLESS he got his feelings hurt and demands a trade for not being on the playoff roster. Doubt that happened though.

No clue wit Winker. Dipoto says injuries zapped his power and Servais says he was down from struggling. I say he looked shitty. No bad luck. No year long injury. Just shitty.

Yeah I also have no clue what went wrong or what to do with him.

If injuries zapped his power, why did he play a career high 136 games? He should've received treatment sooner if that's legitimately the reason he struggled. The bad luck argument is also BS even when you look into the advanced stats. BABIP is generally a metric of how much "luck" a guy has had. His best years he had a BABIP above league average, and this year he had a BABIP significantly below average. So if you use that logic then it was a down year, but his best years were because he was lucky.

 

[wazzu31]

I am not questioning your assessment on his potential regression. I was just mentioning his trade worth is way more than that proposed trade. They want a ton and they should. Is he worth more to us? Not sure, but I have no issue dealing any and all the names mentioned by any of us. Of course I will beat my dead horse dream of getting Garcia from Texas...lol.

I’m sure they would want the moon and maybe he is worth. I still will say pass if it involves Hancock unless they figure out the number 5 spot. Though something that we haven’t seen in awhile is a good old fashion 3 way trade to acquire him by unloading the guys I mentioned because there has to be teams that still value Kelenic and White and some might value Lewis. I’ll admit my reasoning makes no sense.

I like your Garcia idea but highly doubtful Texas will deal within the division nor does it really seem they would be sellers with the two contracts they dealt out.

 

[ulmax]

I’m sure they would want the moon and maybe he is worth. I still will say pass if it involves Hancock unless they figure out the number 5 spot. Though something that we haven’t seen in awhile is a good old fashion 3 way trade to acquire him by unloading the guys I mentioned because there has to be teams that still value Kelenic and White and some might value Lewis. I’ll admit my reasoning makes no sense.

I like your Garcia idea but highly doubtful Texas will deal within the division nor does it really seem they would be sellers with the two contracts they dealt out.

The pirates understand.
.the value of..hancock and flecxen..and
what it maens..to there team..pittsburgb..i don't remember the last time they had an ace...gilbert and kerby..should show every team..the value of pitching....
And the mariners 3 big guys..
Where Gilbert kerby..
And hancock..
Thomas was a CBB pick.
And
dollard a 5th round pick..it is just he is ready at this point..

 

[ulmax]

Reynolds..is not the 86..player..he was before..and sense that is true 2 years removed.
When kelenic..did not produce he was smacked around and his value fell..


To nothing..so why not Reynolds
. When he is hitting..260..and his CF stats..DWAR..are dumpster..but he does not fall
..to nothing.....so..equal...is not..equal.

B'S
.. .............BS.........BS..........BS...


.

 

[ulmax]

The only guy with a good era..on pittsburgh..
Is keller..with a 360..something...
You think..pitt..will win..with no pitching
no...sir...they will not...

Every other starter..is 1993...keller..is 96..

If...that is if..they got flexxen and Hancock...at least that is a start..

 

[ulmax]

Pitt..
Keller

Flexen....??

Pitt AAA
Cody Bolton ..Tracy cal..is good
Quinn priester..Indiana..
Is good
Both starters..
AA
Hancock.??

J.c.flowers....seems the best so far..florida state
Cameron junker..out of Notre dame..nice strike out rate..

Know..these are the pitchers Pitt has..
AA
AAA
AND PITT..

THAT..IS ONLY.
7 WITH..HANCOCK..AND FLEXXEN..

BAIRLY..ENOUGH...

If that is not turkey..i must have shot a grouse.......ooohh my flying..goodness
It's a goose...cook it..

 

[ulmax]

Hancock..is at least.
A year away..but for pitt..that is prob when they will start gelling.
As a team..with better pitching..
And guys with enough experience..

Just what it is..

 

[ulmax]

For mariners..dollard at AAA..prob with brash..

AA
Campbell
Miller
Berroa
woo
macko..is dipping a bit..but it's ok..
Cuz mariners have other guys..at aqua gitting ready.
And we will be watching closely..
At aqua sox..

 

[ulmax]

At aqua sox

Jimmy joyce
Bryan perez..L/L
Logan rienhart
Joeseph hernandez..
Jordan jackson

They can put Carlson here as well..if they think he can handle it..
The other guys..have earned it..prob so will Carlson this year...

Anytime..a pitcher..is below 4.00..for the year..its time to move up..is the way I do it..or..recommended..by coaches

 

[ulmax]

Jose cabellero..hitting 400 in Arizona fall
league...#7..in ave 9th in ops..
C abellero could be a key..for Seattle
In infield..personel..at tacoma..
To start with...prob 40 man soon

Robert Perez jr..tied for 3rd in rbis
Ave is only 226..but better..than nolve marte...

I think these 2 guys move iup..and the mariners need them to as well..

While cabellero is not hitting at the top
of Arizona fall league any longer..for a few weeks he was.

.and that..i think.plus his good numbers
In AA..
.shows his potential...to do the same..at AAA next season...and be invited to spring
..lets face it he needs more at bats...
For sure..

 

[ulmax]

Where they start..is not where try Finnish
One thing for sure Johnathan class
And Harry ford should move up with
over 800 ops..as is Robert Perez jr..
The 3 big ones.

If that creates a 3 catcher at aqua it does
ford is a utility as well.
But..for catchers guys need to come from
ACL..and there are enough..to get boutista
And ford.to high A..sometiime before summer
..that said..lets look at Modesto pitching
I think Jimmy kingsbury will be at aqua
As well

Modeto..rotation

Carlson...with..5 or 6 games of under 4.00..he could move up..
Jose aquino..L/L..at AcL should move here
Michel leamoncelli
Van Scooter....L/L..or van shooter..its all good
Michel morales..of pa..HS
Raith out of..uw.

With 3 hs pitchers raring to go..ACL

 

[ulmax]

Kinsbury is really on the border..
So I think..he just moves up
out of spring..

Catchers..prob move up..
After spring..
Tatum levins..8th round Pittsburgh

Prob the guy that makes batista move up
Conner charping..western Michigan
Also a utility..

Guys to watch at Modesto
Windash..2b
locklear...3b/1b
young...ss
Gonzales..of
Bill knight...CF

 

[ulmax]

While I think the mariners could us4
A couple collage pitchers..
To balance things out...the guys they have seem quit awsome..
And..
A bit of position players..HS and collage would work this time around.....they will still need guys at Modesto.
But let's see who we think will move up.
From dsl..
Which means..if they are not 17 and are out of HS..and era is lower than 4.00
or bat ave is 260 ..280..with upside..
They maybe ready...

Pitchers..these guys.could move up
From dsl

Emmanuel marcanos
Harold melenge...L/L
Anyello ovando..21yo..6=5
Edward t ovar
Tolbert talavera..only 18 but a 1.29 era in relief
Steven sanchez..a 232..with 4 starts
And 3 and 4 saves
Gliener d iaz
Sensation barrios

9 plus 3 hs pitchers from draft.......looks good for ...for Modesto in 2024..

 

[ulmax]

Position dsl

Still 17..and can't m9ve up..
Yet
Michel arroyo..ss..314..yeah he will go
As soon as he is ready

Ricardo cova..ss..18..that should be ready..hitting..307..with 7 stolen
short stop..5=9..

Lavardo montes...6=3 bat ave280..of
Carlos Jimenez...5=10..L/L
Only a 255..but send him..CF

These are guy who could move up
.know..get ready for collage stuff like that...

1 infield and 1 for nect year.... 2 outfield...9 pitchers