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Seattle Mariners 2022-2023 Offseason Thread

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I like your Garcia idea but highly doubtful Texas will deal within the division nor does it really seem they would be sellers with the two contracts they dealt out.
I doubt they would deal him within the division but they have before so who knows. He is a pipe dream of mine, but the kind of player I would love. A modern day Buhner.
 

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teams that still value Kelenic and White and some might value Lewis
I would love to hear an inside guy say what their value is. I really don't know. I assume very little, but no clue.
 

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I would love to hear an inside guy say what their value is. I really don't know. I assume very little, but no clue.
I would guess scouts would still love Evan White. Lewis eh, he would be a good sell to fans as a former ROTY but doubtful. Question is Kelenic, I still bet there are scouts that like him. But if Seattle does what they should this off-season then Kelenic has zero path to improving his stock, so doubtful he could be a centerpiece but a quantity over quality trade isn’t out of the question.
 

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It's hard to say on pitchers somtimes..
At ACL..
But David morillo..is ready..
Juan burgos..is ready
 

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Yeah I also have no clue what went wrong or what to do with him.

If injuries zapped his power, why did he play a career high 136 games? He should've received treatment sooner if that's legitimately the reason he struggled. The bad luck argument is also BS even when you look into the advanced stats. BABIP is generally a metric of how much "luck" a guy has had. His best years he had a BABIP above league average, and this year he had a BABIP significantly below average. So if you use that logic then it was a down year, but his best years were because he was lucky.
Yeah we all know..
and they all know.

..you can't keep a lie
going.....he was a part time guy..and still is....a situational player..at dh..its ok..a lot
of teams have those
 

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I wouldn't mind him:

Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press reports that Andrew Chafin will decline his 2023 player option and test free agency.​

Chafin will turn down $6.5 million by declining the option, and get $500,000 in a buyout/signing bonus. The left-hander was the most consistent reliever for the Tigers in 202 with a 2.83 ERA and 67/19 K/BB ratio over 57 1/3 innings. He should see a decent market this winter from clubs looking for a high-leverage reliever who throws from the left side.
 

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I wouldn't mind him:

Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free Press reports that Andrew Chafin will decline his 2023 player option and test free agency.​

Chafin will turn down $6.5 million by declining the option, and get $500,000 in a buyout/signing bonus. The left-hander was the most consistent reliever for the Tigers in 202 with a 2.83 ERA and 67/19 K/BB ratio over 57 1/3 innings. He should see a decent market this winter from clubs looking for a high-leverage reliever who throws from the left side.
I don't think I would mind having Chafin
But if he cost draft picks..i don't think so

Yet.
A couple more years..and I won't mind so much on that..
Mariners pitching..is at AA..
Hitting is still at high A and low A..
Mariners still need all the draft picks
They can git..
If Julio winns roy...they get an extra one..
 

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Unless the mariners can land one of the
top 5 collage guys..
Dylan crew... ........of..lsu
Chase dollander..RHP tennesse
Jacob gonzales....ss..mississippi
Wyatt lanford.......of...florida
Jacob wilson........ss...grand canyon

Unikely..to land this list could grow to 10 by that time

Then It would be a HS guy....prob .a left hand pitcher..or best middle infield....
Or C.F..
 

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Somevcollage guys at the top of my list

Cole carrigg...ss..san Diego State more of A 2b 3b type but ok..

Carlos cantreras..of sam Houston state..
Hits like it's going out of style

Jake gilof....3 b..he won't last much
longer at virhina

Maui Ahuna..ss..tennessee

Nolen schanuel....1b/ of ..florida atlantic

My 5 more to keep aneye on..
Collage guys.
 

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I don't think I would mind having Chafin
But if he cost draft picks..i don't think so

Yet.
A couple more years..and I won't mind so much on that..
Mariners pitching..is at AA..
Hitting is still at high A and low A..
Mariners still need all the draft picks
They can git..
If Julio winns roy...they get an extra one..
No picks. He is a free agent.
 

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Really if you want a proto typical..3b
Jake gilof..is the guy...
6=1.
Junior Virginia
From
rehoboth beach...deleware..

Made history breaking school record..
In 2022..with most rbis..81..5 multi
HR games....hit 21 home runs in 2022

you can read the rest..and see his profile
Google it
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But midwest..you are wrong on..flexen
And hancocks.value..

And you overate..
. Reynolds...to.
The extent....of backside...kissing them..
I think...
The mariners and Pittsburgh can get a deal done.
But not at the rate
.that you value flexen..and hancovk..

You are wrong sir...
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Ferthewards...if mariners..
Traded swannie..flexxen,,hanxock..
Pitt maybe drooling...but to your numbers
it is still not enough..
If that is the case...nothing can save the pitifull...pirates..
And they need a free agent pitcher.
Yeah just one.
For know..
 
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Ohh well..moving on....looking for a trade that can help...
The mariners..
 

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Trade rumors suggest Evan white..
Or Gonzales we will see on that..
 

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Let's look at it from a diff direction..
You think the oirates will win with 1 pitcher..no sir..ot takes 6 or 7

no even if you trade from dodgers...
Reynolds is still over valued..

And mariners good pitching...
Undervalued..
 

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Yes.
.and we will see.

The pirates get beat down..
Like clowns.

Next year with no pitching..==defence
 

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I know they have the big 4 ss..
But no one is saying Tre turner...witch
is the best..ss/2b the mariners could get

6bogarts would be like a DH..no base stealing..not a lot of HRs..either..not my 1st choice..

Fans by swanson..may be ok..but will prob sign with atlanta..

Carlos caraia..is prob a phili..and fans don't like he was an astros....

Which leaves 1 guy...andrus..no not the best..yes..he is 34 years old...good reason..to move to 2b.
And andrus...is good against astos..
Can steal bases..and hit 17 HRs..last year
 

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Well..if corea..gave a speech..to the effect of to hell...with the astros..lets
play baseball....ya know SB nation..

That would go a long way...and mariners
Fans may get on board with that..

But the rumar...
Is phili...
 
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