skinzfan
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Unless Herbert can play defense too, I'm not sure his presence would lead to victories. WFT hired the nicest guy in the world to coach the team. NFL Man of the Year trophy not enough?
I watched Herbert at Oregon for 3 years. You can think what you want, homey, but you already got it fucked up. Tua wasm't the consensus #1 QB in the draft. Joe Burrow was. And going strictly with an eyeball test. Herbert at 6'.6" 235 pounds blew both Burrow and especially Tua out the water. Same goes for arm talent. Burrow and Tua may've been getting all the love from talking heads and the like, but Herbert had that "if you could build a stud NFL QB this is what he would look like" vibe like a mothafucker. Moreso than any QB since Andrew Luck a nd m,ore than him even. Not only was he huge and had the most arm talent in his class. He could move in the pocket, he could run, throw on the run, had touch, was smart. They say had he came out after his jr year he'd of been the # 1 pk. But as he played ar Oregon and not OSU or Alabama their dumb asses would've probably still picked one year wonder Haskins.
And if you think scouts didn't know who Herbert was that might have been true (though I seriously doubt it) until the Senior Bowl where he wowed everyone and ended up as the game's MVP. San Diego knew who he was.
You're probably right though about the Skins drafting Tua as opposed to drafting Herbert. The Skins gravitate towards players who get talked about the most, are sexy, and get hype. Players like Haskins or Chase Young. The Skins think that players who play at places like Ohio St and Alabama are better than kids who play at Oregon. That's too bad cuz had both you and the Skins really looked at Herbert you would've seen that he was a sexy as fuck breast and unlike the players the Skins keep drafting with their #1 picks. That Herbert has the goods to be more than a flash in the pan 1 year rookie wonder with a really cool nickname.
Far as the defense goes. Both Dago n Buffalo had their way with the defense the entire game. The Giants hung 29 points on the defense and if not for a dropped pass and a bad call by a ref it could've easily been 40 points. Its been 3 bad games and the thing that's fuckin with me is that the coaching staff has made no noticeable changes. They keep employing the same schemes and personnel and the defense keeps giving up yards, first downs, 3rd dn conv and points.You guys are panicking and overreacting.
Buffalo is really good. It was a bad game, that is all.
I agree 100% with you on who the Skins likely would've picked. And as usual like they've been the last however many years they've had a first rd pk. They would've been wrong. The best first rd picks the Skins have made in the last 20 years have been Treat Williams, Carlos Rogers, who when he was in DC. Couldn't catch a cold had he lived butt-naked on an iceberg. Sean Taylor and had he not died. He would've got the fuck outta DC the first decent chance that came his way. LaVar Arrington who suffered from both injuries and the Daniel Snyder treatment which is guaranteed to fuck off a player's career.I meant Tua was #1 on the Skins board. Herbert was the 3rd ranked Qb in this draft. The only reason why Burrow was #1 was b/c of Tua's hip injury. Herbert was not even in the conversation at the time we were picking #2. It was Young or Tua.
Don’t forget RKI agree 100% with you on who the Skins likely would've picked. And as usual like they've been the last however many years they've had a first rd pk. They would've been wrong. The best first rd picks the Skins have made in the last 20 years have been Treat Williams, Carlos Rogers, who when he was in DC. Couldn't catch a cold had he lived butt-naked on an iceberg. Sean Taylor and had he not died. He would've got the fuck outta DC the first decent chance that came his way. LaVar Arrington who suffered from both injuries and the Daniel Snyder treatment which is guaranteed to fuck off a player's career.
Fuck! I can not believe I forgot Ryan Kerrigan. mothafucker. Thanks @MWABDon’t forget RK
I pay no attention to what the media says. Skins might still struggle with Herbert but they would be better than any of the other three QBs.No one expected Herbert to play this good, this early on. The media tried to play him for a soft punk incapable of leading because he's mild mannered and also lost in some big games. But let's not act like Herbert doesn't already have ELITE teammates on both sides of the ball. I strongly believe he would be a nobody if he were on this current team
I pay no attention to what the media says. Skins might still struggle with Herbert but they would be better than any of the other three QBs.
Correct!! Just ask the Vikings who were actual championship contenders until they got him (52-53-2) as the upgrade that they needed to win it all!You know if we kept KC. We would be nfc championship game contenders
Which is why the Skin'em Alls comment is right. Cousins has performed well in Minnesota but many reasons it has not turned into wins. Primarily because of defense and poor kicking. Vikes could be 3-0 but Cook fumbles in FG territory in game 1 and the kicker misses an extra point early in game 2 and then misses a short TD to win. Cousins has throw for 900 yards, 8 TDs and 0 Ints.You know if we kept KC. We would be nfc championship game contenders
BTW: this is the ultimate, "you can win a SB with these type of players" statement. While true, there's no instance in which teams winning that one title, ever returning with middle of the pack QB's. It's a lottery mindset, and one formed from desperation instead of being actually focused upon building a team that is a perennial winner because you put aside your feelings and did what was best for winning titles. You see this internally when you have players with useful but fading value being kept too long, generally for nostalgic reasons, instead of getting trade value that actually helps your team. I can see some fans with this mindset, they don't know better, or the difference between a young player with upside and a fading still useful veteran, but the organization, supposedly professional, is there for that exact purpose, unless...You know if we kept KC. We would be nfc championship game contenders
Lost in some big games? What big games are those? He set rookie records of most TD passes in a season, most completions in a season, most total TDs in a rookie season, most 300 yard assing games in a season by a rookie. Most games with 2 passing TDs in a season by rookie., most games with 3 passing TDs in a season by a rookie. Youngest player to throw for 30 TDs in a season. Was 39 yards shy of throwing for the most passing yeards in a season by a rookie. All that in 15 games. His w/l record was 6-9 of those 9 losses only 2 were by more than 2 scores and only 1 was a b;low out. Of those 5 victories 4 in a row came to close out the season. The Chargers have played the Chiefs 3 times with Herbert as their starting QB. The Chargers are 2-1 in those games winning the last 2. Name one other team that's done that since Mahomes has been their starting QB..No one expected Herbert to play this good, this early on. The media tried to play him for a soft punk incapable of leading because he's mild mannered and also lost in some big games. But let's not act like Herbert doesn't already have ELITE teammates on both sides of the ball. I strongly believe he would be a nobody if he were on this current team