Regular season thread

[cdumler7]

Don't all players, Media, fans, etc hate TNF because it gives the home team the advantage??
So a banged up RAIDER team went to KC and played to the last play and lost..
Who had the advantage in that game cd??

Road teams are always at a disadvantage. Yes I do think the Thursday games put even more stress on that fact. Still 5 of the 13 games played on Thursday night so far have seen the road team win. 8 wins home team 5 wins road team. That lines up pretty well with home and away splits throughout the NFL. Heck 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL have winning records at home and quite a few others that are at .500. Only 7 teams have winning records on the road and all of those teams have winning records overall. Also pretty sure the Raiders have been incredible on the road this year so they should have loved being on the road.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Well considering the Raiders stadium is actually ranked as the 2nd most dangerous NFL stadium and 7th most dangerous stadium in the world yeah I would say at least my statement is backed by facts. But hey yeah you keep believing Raiders fans are not known more than others for fighting and making life hell for opposing fans.



If Carr can't throw a 5 yard slant pattern or throw a screen pass then he shouldn't have been playing. Those are the 2 easiest throws in football. Raiders in my opinion would be better off putting in the back up at that point as the next 3 opponents then will do the exact same thing the Chiefs did and the Raiders season could end with them missing the playoffs.



I'm done arguing injuries. Every time we talk somehow the Raiders players are all All-Pro level and every other team is just trash. Also if you haven't heard of Jaye Howard on the DL then you haven't been paying attention to a great player. He has been a huge piece of that Chiefs defense that has been a top-5 unit. I'm sorry that I don't find players missing from the Raiders defense all that big of a deal considering they have been a pretty bad unit all year long. I have said Ose missing was a big deal. He is a great player that is impossible to replace. I have said that Carr's injury is worse than I think most want to admit and that is effecting his game. He still played though and if he is on the field then if you are not going to let the Chiefs count Houston, Hali, Poe, Johnson, and Maclin as key injuries for the Chiefs you cannot count Carr in that equation. All those players played hurt for the Chiefs and all of them are pretty darn key players for them.

Talking about which fan base is better is kids talk cd, so let's please not go there.. Hey my dad can beat your dad!! That's what that debate sounds like..

Funny some RAIDER fans out there said the same thing about sitting Carr and let him get healthy..
We have a mini bye week coming up, lets see what happens in WARM SD?!

And im not saying those players are All Pros you are.. Im just saying those are KEY players that hurt our team..
Did the RAIDERS have more KEY injuries than KC??

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

No I blamed it on the Broncos playing flat and the coaches making a terrible decision to start Siemian when he clearly wasn't healthy enough to be in the game. They blew a big game. I've also been one to say the Chargers are a team that is better than their record. They lost some games early on that were just down right statistically almost impossible. I think they did an analysis of how they lost and figured out that it is more likely for you to win the lottery than to have had the string of bad luck the Chargers had early on in the season. They are a good team that has had some unlucky breaks and injuries pile up once again. Wouldn't shock me to see them beat both the Chiefs and Raiders here at the end of the season.

Ahhhhh so Siemian was not healthy?? And yet you come after me for saying Carr wasn't healthy.. Why is that??
And agreed the Bolts are better than their record

 

[cdumler7]

Talking about which fan base is better is kids talk cd, so let's please not go there.. Hey my dad can beat your dad!! That's what that debate sounds like..

Funny some RAIDER fans out there said the same thing about sitting Carr and let him get healthy..
We have a mini bye week coming up, lets see what happens in WARM SD?!

And im not saying those players are All Pros you are.. Im just saying those are KEY players that hurt our team..
Did the RAIDERS have more KEY injuries than KC??

No I didn't say they were All-Pro. I said Ose being out was a huge blow. Every other player you mentioned are not household names and while I've seen them play I have not been impressed with what they have done on the field. They are role players.

And the Chiefs players I listed...Charles has been an actual All-Pro. So has Houston. Dontari Poe has been a 2nd team All-Pro. Hali has been a 2 time 2nd team All-Pro. Derrick Johnson has been a 1st team All-Pro. So these are actual players that have finished at or near the top of their position groups that are all hurting. You can't sit here and say the Chiefs have no one injured. Again if you are going to include Carr in the argument for injuries then you have to include all of these guys for the Chiefs. They all fall into that same boat as Carr of playing with some pretty big injuries.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Road teams are always at a disadvantage. Yes I do think the Thursday games put even more stress on that fact. Still 5 of the 13 games played on Thursday night so far have seen the road team win. 8 wins home team 5 wins road team. That lines up pretty well with home and away splits throughout the NFL. Heck 20 of the 32 teams in the NFL have winning records at home and quite a few others that are at .500. Only 7 teams have winning records on the road and all of those teams have winning records overall. Also pretty sure the Raiders have been incredible on the road this year so they should have loved being on the road.

So you agree with me and the rest of the NFL world..

 

[cdumler7]

Ahhhhh so Siemian was not healthy?? And yet you come after me for saying Carr wasn't healthy.. Why is that??
And agreed the Bolts are better than their record

No I said you cannot include Carr in the argument if you are going to continue to ignore the banged up Chiefs players that played. Houston is coming off a very bizarre ACL injury and still getting his legs about him. Hali has missed a ton of practice with a nagging injury. DJ went out early in the game. Poe has dealt with some major back issues that he has had to get surgeries for already and it is acting up again keeping him out of practice. Obviously Charles is out. So if you want to talk about Carr being hurt and that effecting the game then look at all those Chiefs players and there are more that have all been missing time this past week of practice because of injuries.

 

[cdumler7]

So you agree with me and the rest of the NFL world..

That Thursday night games present a disadvantage for the road team...Yes. Again though that is true of Sunday and Monday games as well. I can point to the 1 p.m. start time for West Coast teams as a disadvantage. I can point to the altitude in Denver as a disadvantage. I can point to the weather in Green Bay and even the weather in Miami. There are plenty of disadvantages that pop up all over the NFL for teams no matter the day. This is why only a handful of teams have winning records on the road.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

No I didn't say they were All-Pro. I said Ose being out was a huge blow. Every other player you mentioned are not household names and while I've seen them play I have not been impressed with what they have done on the field. They are role players.

And the Chiefs players I listed...Charles has been an actual All-Pro. So has Houston. Dontari Poe has been a 2nd team All-Pro. Hali has been a 2 time 2nd team All-Pro. Derrick Johnson has been a 1st team All-Pro. So these are actual players that have finished at or near the top of their position groups that are all hurting. You can't sit here and say the Chiefs have no one injured. Again if you are going to include Carr in the argument for injuries then you have to include all of these guys for the Chiefs. They all fall into that same boat as Carr of playing with some pretty big injuries.

Well of course you are not impressed with those RAIDER players cd, Cmon dude!!
And Carr being injured didn't hurt us either??
I never said KC players didn't get injured, i said they all played in this game, and that = Healthy
I will give you Charles, but i counter with MEJ and Aldon Smith

 

[cdumler7]

Anyway I'm off to bed. Long day ahead of me.

 

[cdumler7]

Well of course you are not impressed with those RAIDER players cd, Cmon dude!!
And Carr being injured didn't hurt us either??
I never said KC players didn't get injured, i said they all played in this game, and that = Healthy
I will give you Charles, but i counter with MEJ and Aldon Smith

Yet somehow Carr can be injured and not considered healthy yet play. Got it. Yup no double standard in what you are saying at all.

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

No I said you cannot include Carr in the argument if you are going to continue to ignore the banged up Chiefs players that played. Houston is coming off a very bizarre ACL injury and still getting his legs about him. Hali has missed a ton of practice with a nagging injury. DJ went out early in the game. Poe has dealt with some major back issues that he has had to get surgeries for already and it is acting up again keeping him out of practice. Obviously Charles is out. So if you want to talk about Carr being hurt and that effecting the game then look at all those Chiefs players and there are more that have all been missing time this past week of practice because of injuries.

Then what about all the Bolt players that are injured or not played in that game against you guys??
The Bolts lead the league in injuries, if not close to it.. Why don't i get to use the same excuse you are using

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Yet somehow Carr can be injured and not considered healthy yet play. Got it. Yup no double standard in what you are saying at all.

No cd, everybody knows about Carr's finger and how he's injured.. Nobody talked about KC players being injured.. In fact they said this is the most that KC has been healthy.. In fact they raved how healthy they were

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Look, the only thing that matters in sports is the win..
A healthy KC team beat a banged up RAIDER team on a short week at their house..
The only real winners from that matchup was the Pats!! As they now have the number 1 seed and and a clear path to likely keep it.. We still have to beat up on each other in order to make the playoffs!!

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Im not a rude person, so i always say i gotta go!! The Zzzz world is calling me..

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Well, the Titans looking pretty good as of now.. That's a good young team in the making!! Teams that play them need to be careful or they will get smashed

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Titans take down Denver!! Hmmmm
They will beat KC next week as well, watch?!

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

Sooo the Bucs and Titans, teams that some said sucked, both got beat by the RAIDERS!! Hmmmm

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

LOL, some players crying over dirty play?! How that medicine taste son!!

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

The Titans are a bully team.. Big nasty hard hitting young team that fears nobody!!
Oh, they will take it to KC as well.. Yup Yup

 

[idahoraiderfan33]

So the Bolts have more starters go down in the game they played, dang!!
Gordon, Bosa and Barks!! Im not sure if they will play in our game or not, but those are key players..