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Rangers vs. A's - Battle for the West

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Honestly when he brought in Lowe I thought that we were going to lose. Just unacceptable

I honestly had chalked it up as a loss whenever I heard Feldman was on the hill.
 

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Yeah, I just really don't understand why Wash would let Mark Lowe pitch in any kind of important situation. Did he not learn his lesson from the World Series or the multiple other times he failed? Why pitch your worst pitcher in a series with the division title on the line?



and i also have to wonder why he would start Feldman with the division title on the line
 

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and i also have to wonder why he would start Feldman with the division title on the line


Because of darvish's stiff neck?
^this.


Not only that.... but who else are they going to start?

Perez? (he's pitching/starting tonight).
Oswalt? (he just threw 2 innings the other night)
Soooooo..... who?????????????????????

Grasping for straws IMO.
 

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i would have rather seen them move someone else up. anyone but Feldman

who? no one else is playing... (in AAA or AA)

so you're going to move perez up to pitch last night.
Who pitches tonight? Harrison?

Short rest for the rest of the staff with a 5 game lead in the division?!?!?!?!


I've heard it all now.
 

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who? no one else is playing... (in AAA or AA)

so you're going to move perez up to pitch last night.
Who pitches tonight? Harrison?

Short rest for the rest of the staff with a 5 game lead in the division?!?!?!?!


I've heard it all now.

Grimm & Font were both called up and i would have used both over Feldman. that doesn't affect the rotation
 
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and i also have to wonder why he would start Feldman with the division title on the line

With a 5 game lead the division title wasn't on the line. It won't be on the line tonight either or tomorrow night or the next night.
Besides, a lack of hitting ( 0 runs for 9 innings) and a spectacular fielding play by the A's RF was the culprit last night.
 

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Grimm & Font were both called up and i would have used both over Feldman. that doesn't affect the rotation

Grimm was worse than Feldman in his starts and Font couldn't have gone more than 3 innings.
 

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Grimm was worse than Feldman in his starts and Font couldn't have gone more than 3 innings.

so how many innings did Feldman go? i would have gone with Font for 3 innings and then Grimm for 2 or 3 followed by Kirkman & Ogando. and "long-ball" lowe would have never left the bullpen
 

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Was Ogando just gassed? Is Tateyama not available? Is Robbie Ross tired? Mike Adams? Anyone? Why in the world was Mark Lowe brought in to a very winnable and important game?

Thought Wash's terse response to the press asking why he picked Lowe over Scheppers. Said they hadn't seen Scheppers throw since he was injured. That was why he wasn't first in before Lowe.

Turns out Scheppers came in and finished the inning.

What I would have responded with ... "well we hadn't seen Lowe either since the last time he was bombed either".

Wasted effort by Feldman (honestly) and Uehara... and flies in the face of the speech after the first game w/OAK about how team needs to pull out the stops and play to win ... blah blah blah.

So the first game was very important ... and apparently the second wasn't or we would never have seen Lowe with a chance to lose a game.

TEX management should know that Lowe is an expert at giving up the long ball in high leverage situations.
 

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Thought Wash's terse response to the press asking why he picked Lowe over Scheppers. Said they hadn't seen Scheppers throw since he was injured. That was why he wasn't first in before Lowe.

Turns out Scheppers came in and finished the inning.

What I would have responded with ... "well we hadn't seen Lowe either since the last time he was bombed either".

Wasted effort by Feldman (honestly) and Uehara... and flies in the face of the speech after the first game w/OAK about how team needs to pull out the stops and play to win ... blah blah blah.

So the first game was very important ... and apparently the second wasn't or we would never have seen Lowe with a chance to lose a game.

TEX management should know that Lowe is an expert at giving up the long ball in high leverage situations.


have to agree with your assessment. Wash seemed to be content with Game 1 and accepted losing Game 2
 

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have to agree with your assessment. Wash seemed to be content with Game 1 and accepted losing Game 2

That was my exact thought as well. It felt like Wash was willing to sacrifice that game from the very start.
 
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so how many innings did Feldman go? i would have gone with Font for 3 innings and then Grimm for 2 or 3 followed by Kirkman & Ogando. and "long-ball" lowe would have never left the bullpen

Nice idea really ... use combination of Font and Grimm to get to Nathan ... then you have Uehara for the 10th and Kirkman the 11th. Wash probably didn't want to count on them in an important game. Wash figured the offense would take the lead late and let Joe close it ... so he was stuck with Lowe in exactly the spot that Lowe has failed in too many times before.

From a pitching perspective ... just can't waste great outings from Kirkman ... not to mention Uehara ... most solid RP on the roster. He is the one you need with the game on the line.

Know it drove you nuts further back in the season when I bagged on YT and Long Ball ... I made the call then that neither were going to contribute to winning in 2012. YT is gone ... and I doubt very much Lowe is given the chance to lose another game in a TEX uniform.

See ya Mark ... hope we see you in the late innings next year throwing long balls for CLE or KCR. Maybe you can link up with YT after his currently hitless career for MIL.
 

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Nice idea really ... use combination of Font and Grimm to get to Nathan ... then you have Uehara for the 10th and Kirkman the 11th. Wash probably didn't want to count on them in an important game. Wash figured the offense would take the lead late and let Joe close it ... so he was stuck with Lowe in exactly the spot that Lowe has failed in too many times before.

From a pitching perspective ... just can't waste great outings from Kirkman ... not to mention Uehara ... most solid RP on the roster. He is the one you need with the game on the line.

Know it drove you nuts further back in the season when I bagged on YT and Long Ball ... I made the call then that neither were going to contribute to winning in 2012. YT is gone ... and I doubt very much Lowe is given the chance to lose another game in a TEX uniform.

See ya Mark ... hope we see you in the late innings next year throwing long balls for CLE or KCR. Maybe you can link up with YT after his currently hitless career for MIL.


YT was never anything more than a backup catcher and i agree with you that he was not going to contribute to us winning this season. and hopefully you're correct about Lowe not appearing again as a Ranger. i would like to see the same thing happen to Feldman
 

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YT was never anything more than a backup catcher and i agree with you that he was not going to contribute to us winning this season. and hopefully you're correct about Lowe not appearing again as a Ranger. i would like to see the same thing happen to Feldman

We'll see ... my last post (I hope) on Long Ball. Some over at BBTIA were touting Lowe's 3.2 ERA as reason why he pitched ahead of Scheppers. I have total disdain for season stats ... especially in September ... where in his 5 appearances Lowe has an 18.92ERA.

His 3.2 season ERA was the result of him being used only in low leverage situations.

In his 35 appearances in 2012 he came in 13 times with TEX leading by an average of 7.69 runs ... and he came in 22 times with TEX behind by an average of 4.36 runs. Talk about low leverage.

On one occasion (Jun 18 against light hitting SDP @ pitcher friendly SDP) he had a 1 run lead and left with a 1 run lead in 1.0IP for his only hold for the season in 35 appearances.

Both times he appeared with an opportunity to be the winning or losing pitcher ... (since Game 6) ... he lost both giving up 2 runs recording 0 outs on Sep 7 @ contending TBR and last night giving up 1 run in 0.2IP vs contending OAK.

There could not have been a poorer choice for TEX to use in the top of the 10th last night.

Last night will be the last time we see Mark Lowe pitching for TEX ... ever again ... unless an opportunity with TEX up 7.69 runs or down 4.36 runs in the remaining regular season games.

I said he was a spare when TEX got him along with Lee ... and he has fulfilled his destiny several times over. (Other than Rich Harden he has been my most despised TEX pitcher in 5 seasons).
 
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Grimm & Font were both called up and i would have used both over Feldman. that doesn't affect the rotation

and when was the last time either of them pitched??
You would have rather had one of those 2 last night?!?



Getting back to tonight....here's this little tidbit of information

Jarrod Parker is 2-1 with a 1.86 ERA in four starts in September.
 

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Nice idea really ... use combination of Font and Grimm to get to Nathan ... then you have Uehara for the 10th and Kirkman the 11th.


no no no... he was suggesting starting Font... then going to Grimm. IE - those 2 would ahve taken the place of Feldman.

Which still leaves the other 5 innings that happened last night.
 

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2B Kinsler
SS Andrus
CF Hamilton
3B Beltre
RF Cruz
DH Young
LF Murphy
C Napoli
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