Power 5 Conference Testicle Check

[AlaskaGuy]

2016 P5 opponents by team and conference

ACC Atlantic
BC - 8 conference games = 8 P5
Clemson - 8 conference games + Auburn, USCe = 10 P5
FSU - 8 conference games + Ole Miss, UF = 10 P5
Louisville - 8 conference games + Kentucky = 9 P5
NC State - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
Syracuse - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5
WF - 8 conference games + Indiana = 9 P5

ACC Coastal
Duke - 8 conference games + Northwestern, ND = 10 P5
GT - 8 conference games + Vandy, UGA = 10 P5
Miami - 8 conference games + ND = 9 P5 (incomplete schedule)***
North Carolina - 8 conference games + UGA, Illinois = 10 P5
Pitt - 8 conference games + Penn St., Okie St. = 10 P5
UVA - 8 conference games + Oregon = 9 P5
VT - 8 conference games + Tennessee, ND = 10 P5

Total: 132 / 14 = 9.428 P5


B1G East
Indiana - 9 conference games + WF = 10 P5
Maryland - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Michigan - 9 conference games + Colorado = 10 P5
MSU - 9 conference games + ND, BYU = 11 P5
Ohio St. - 9 conference games + Oklahoma = 10 P5
Penn St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
Rutgers - 9 conference games + Washington = 10 P5

B1G West
Illinois - 9 conference games + North Carolina = 10 P5
Iowa - 9 conference games + Iowa St. = 10 P5
Minnesota - 9 conference games + Oregon St. = 10 P5
Nebraska - 9 conference games + Oregon = 10 P5
Northwestern - 9 conference games + Duke = 10 P5
Purdue - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Wisconsin - 9 conference games + LSU = 10 P5

Total: 139 / 14 = 9.928 P5


Big 12
Baylor - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Iowa St. - 9 conference games + Iowa = 10 P5
Kansas - 9 conference games = 9 P5
Kansas St. - 9 conference games + Stanford = 10 P5
Oklahoma - 9 conference games + Ohio St. = 10 P5
Oklahoma St. - 9 conference games + Pitt = 10 P5
TCU - 9 conference games + Arkansas = 10 P5
Texas - 9 conference games + ND, Cal = 11 P5
TT - 9 conference games + Arizona St. = 10 P5
WVU - 9 conference games + Missouri, BYU = 11 P5

Total: 100 / 10 = 10 P5


PAC North
Cal - 9 conference games + Texas = 10 P5
Stanford - 9 conference games + Kansas St., ND = 11 P5
Oregon - 9 conference games + Virginia, Nebraska = 11 P5
Oregon St. - 9 conference games + Minny = 10 P5
Washington - 9 conference games + Rutgers = 10 P5
Washington St. - 9 conference games = 9 P5

PAC South
Arizona - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
Arizona St. - 9 conference games + TT = 10 P5
Colorado - 9 conference games + Michigan = 10 P5
Utah - 9 conference games + BYU = 10 P5
UCLA - 9 conference games + TAMU, BYU = 11 P5
USC - 9 conference games + Alabama, ND = 11 P5

Total: 123 / 12 = 10.25 P5


SEC East
UF - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
UGA - 8 conference games + North Carolina, GT = 10 P5
UK - 8 conference games + Louisville = 9 P5
Mizzou - 8 conference games + WVU = 9 P5
SCAR - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
UT - 8 conference games + VT = 9 P5
Vandy - 8 conference games + GT = 9 P5

SEC West
Alabama - 8 conference games + USC = 9 P5
Arkansas - 8 conference games + TCU = 9 P5
Auburn - 8 conference games + Clemson = 9 P5
LSU - 8 conference games + Wiscy = 9 P5
Miss. St. - 8 conference games + BYU = 9 P5
Ole Miss - 8 conference games + FSU = 9 P5
TAMU - 8 conference games + UCLA = 9 P5

Total: 127 / 14 = 9.071 P5


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[4down20]

Labels like "P5" are really a lousy way of looking at things. I mean they work for general conversation where you are doing ball park figure stuff, but as far as making actual stats based on the label, it's a terrible way to determine the strength of schedule.

Shows pretty well in SoS metrics as well. As the Big12 by this method seemingly plays "tough games" and passes the testicle test, but in stats based SoS metrics, outside Oklahoma the opposite is pretty much true.

BCF Toys - 2016 SOS Ratings

And here is a chart to visual the rankings easily.

BCF Toys - Chartball SOS

sort by conference.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Labels like "P5" are really a lousy way of looking at things. I mean they work for general conversation where you are doing ball park figure stuff, but as far as making actual stats based on the label, it's a terrible way to determine the strength of schedule.

Shows pretty well in SoS metrics as well. As the Big12 by this method seemingly plays "tough games" and passes the testicle test, but in stats based SoS metrics, outside Oklahoma the opposite is pretty much true.

BCF Toys - 2016 SOS Ratings

And here is a chart to visual the rankings easily.

BCF Toys - Chartball SOS

sort by conference.

There's a gazillion different SOS formulas. P5 conferences have the most money, more money = better facilities, etc.. There's some solid G5 teams such as Cincy and Boise St. but those are few and far between.

 

[4down20]

There's a gazillion different SOS formulas. P5 conferences have the most money, more money = better facilities, etc.. There's some solid G5 teams such as Cincy and Boise St. but those are few and far between.

There are like 64 P5 teams. There is a huge difference between the #1 team and the #64 team - and #64 is the best case scenario for a P5 team, in reality it's more like:

#117 - Kansas.
#103 - Illinois
#101 - Iowa St
#95 - Purdue
etc.

College Football Ranking Composite

 

[Jekku]

There are like 64 P5 teams. There is a huge difference between the #1 team and the #64 team - and #64 is the best case scenario for a P5 team, in reality it's more like:

#117 - Kansas.
#103 - Illinois
#101 - Iowa St
#95 - Purdue
etc.

College Football Ranking Composite

I think iowa state is getting a bit of a bad rep. They did lose to UNI and got thrashed by Iowa and TCU. But they played Baylor and OK state tough and could easily have won both or either. Campbell has them improving it seems.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I think iowa state is getting a bit of a bad rep. They did lose to UNI and got thrashed by Iowa and TCU. But they played Baylor and OK state tough and could easily have won both or either. Campbell has them improving it seems.

Iowa St. plays a 9 game conference schedule plus Iowa every year. There's no shame to their game.

 

[fordman84]

I count at least 3 Big12 schools that shouldn't be considered P5.

 

[gpm1976]

There are like 64 P5 teams. There is a huge difference between the #1 team and the #64 team - and #64 is the best case scenario for a P5 team, in reality it's more like:

#117 - Kansas.
#103 - Illinois
#101 - Iowa St
#95 - Purdue
etc.

College Football Ranking Composite

While you are correct that there's a big discrepancy between the top and bottom of the P5, they're still bigger schools with better athletes. Even the MAC can be difficult to handle.. just ask Ok. State.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

I take issue with ND being considered a Power 5 program. They're an independent, no more important than BYU or Army.

 

[Across The Field]

I count at least 3 Big12 schools that shouldn't be considered P5.

Schools like Kansas, Illinois, Syracuse, Iowa State, Rutgers, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, etc. really know how to take the "Power" out of "Power 5".

 

[rsw626]

New forum, same horse

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Schools like Kansas, Illinois, Syracuse, Iowa State, Rutgers, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, etc. really know how to take the "Power" out of "Power 5".

Oregon St. played in the Alamo Bowl just a few years back.

 

[outofyourmind]

I count at least 3 Big12 schools that shouldn't be considered P5.

Says the guy who's team only has 1 CC in the last 20 years and is barely above .500 in conference play.

Glass Houses en sech

 

[AlaskaGuy]

New forum, same horse

Show me the person who held the loaded gun to your head forcing you to read this thread and I swear I'll hunt him down.

 

[rsw626]

Show me the person who held the loaded gun to your head forcing you to read this thread and I swear I'll hunt him down.

Get some new material. U Dub is good again, go with that

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Get some new material. U Dub is good again, go with that

You do know why the SEC and ACC avoid playing their own conference members don't ya?

This way they get one more patsy to pad their schedule.

 

[Across The Field]

Oregon St. played in the Alamo Bowl just a few years back.

Illinois played in the Heart of Zaxby's Bowl two years ago but they sure look like butt nowadays.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

TL;DR, so I'm just going to go ahead and assume the SEC won again.

 

[rsw626]

You do know why the SEC and ACC avoid playing their own conference members don't ya?

This way they get one more patsy to pad their schedule.

Tennessee has never had an issue scheduling the PAC

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Illinois played in the Heart of Zaxby's Bowl two years ago but they sure look like butt nowadays.

Didn't they just hire Lovie Smith? Do you honestly think a team from say the MWC has the same bankroll to go out and pay mega bucks for a coaching staff and facilities. I mean let's get real here.