Not really. They beat Penn State and Wisconsin, both of them beat Iowa. So it didn't work there. UW beat Stanford and Utah, both of which beat USC, transitive property didn't work too well there either...
I didn't say they'd lose to those three... I'm saying we can assume they'd lose to one, and USC would be a toss up. You don't get to lose to Iowa and then say you'd easily run the Pac 12 when the season's over and you want something to feel good about.
Well, I did. I don't think it's unreasonable to say they'd drop one to a Utah, Stanford, or WSU (considering they did to a similar quality team), and call USC late in the year a toss up. You can claim they wouldn't, there's no way I can prove you wrong. Congratulations.
So it's not reasonable to speculate they would still have at least a loss with any other schedule given they lost to a piss poor Iowa team, but its perfectly acceptable to speculate they would beat every team in a conference because they beat one team from that conference?
So it's not reasonable to speculate they would still have at least a loss with any other schedule given they lost to a piss poor Iowa team, but its perfectly acceptable to speculate they would beat every team in a conference because they beat one team from that conference?
Seems legit.
Surely you are smart enough to see that you can't make any assumption what so ever on what teams might do against teams they actually haven't faced. Surely?
So it's ok for YOU to look at exactly one game (Colorado) and make assumptions, but not anyone else?
So it's ok for YOU to look at exactly one game (Colorado) and make assumptions, but not anyone else?
No, no it's not reasonable. What we do know as a fact is the only team in a P5 that didn't stub their toe was Alabama. Every other team lost at least once and really only Ohio State didn't have some kind of bad loss. Out of ALL of the P5 conferences.
That's a fact.
So tell us again how it's reasonable to think ANY team taking on ANY other P5 schedule would magically do what only Alabama did.
The truth is it's fucking hard to run the table. It's hard to do so in even down P5 conference divisions. It is rare by all accounts. Very few EVER do it.
Facts don't support your claims man. They don't.
But do keep on with this though experiments as long as our team is on everyones lips we are doing it right.
He says look at their whole schedule, but ignore Iowa.
Who said they'd be a 4 loss team? You're just being ridiculous...
You could, but they lost to Iowa during a not particularly tough part of their schedule, and I think you're giving some of those top 10 teams more credit than they're worth. So many seem real quick to call Colorado overrated until we're talking about Michigan's super tough schedule, then they're just one of the top 10 teams. When you think of the best teams in the country this year does your mind really go to Penn state and Wisconsin? Obviously they don't suck, but come on... They lost to an average Iowa team between Indiana and Minnesota. No, I'm not buying their apparently overwhelming schedule made them lose focus. They pissed the bed in two games, one happened to be a top 4 team, if it was just that bed wetting I wouldn't be arguing, but the other lost to an FCS team and is average at best.
