Possible trouble in Norman....

[romeo212000]

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How? Is he a rapist? Were their actions condoned by Hizzle? They werent even condoned by the University or coaching staff. Kids were immediately suspend, when Strong heard there was an investigation. Essentially thrown off the team as soon as charges were brought. Trying to figure out where the link is and how Hizzle is being hypocritical on this situation.

I wasn't referring to the case with the Texas players. I was talking about his constant ranting about people making assumptions while his are based in far less factual information.

 

[fordman84]

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How? Is he a rapist? Were their actions condoned by Hizzle? They werent even condoned by the University or coaching staff. Kids were immediately suspend, when Strong heard there was an investigation. Essentially thrown off the team as soon as charges were brought. Trying to figure out where the link is and how Hizzle is being hypocritical on this situation. Hypocritical is trying to say Hicks and Case are rapists, but not realizing Shannon fits in the category. All of those were involved in accusations and cleared.

I need to read back through the thread, has he suggested that we wait for "due process" in this case?

 

[romeo212000]

I need to read back through the thread, has he suggested that we wait for "due process" in this case?

Quite the opposite actually.

I applaud Charlie for ridding the team of 2 big WR's when allegations came out of what they did to a young girl. Some things are bigger than a football game. Stoops needs to do the right thing here too. Dude flat out punched a young girl in the face and gave her broken bones. Here in OK, that's what is called Aggravated Assault and Battery with Great Bodily Injury. It's a felony.

You don't fuckin know what happened any more than any of us. Sit back with the rest of us and wait for the facts with the rest of us. You're so fucking giddy at the thought of Oklahoma losing his talent you've already decided he's guilty and know exactly what happened.

1) I applied the exact same reasoning to my own players. Check the thread. 2 of our kids are "accused" of assaulting a woman. I don't know "for sure" what happened - but I have said all over, get rid of them.

2) You're assertion that I'm "so giddy" because he is a big recruit for you is ridiculously lame... Due to what I said above. Did you miss the part where I said, "some things are bigger than a football game."???

3) What we do know is that a young girl apparently was punched in the face. That young girl apparently has broken bones. The police did not rush to an arrest decision. Instead the decided to wait. To talk to witnesses and to view the video. After viewing the video they are looking for him to arrest him. Doesn't really take a genius to figure the rest out. And yes, I am entitled to give an opinion (on a message board designed for people to give opinions) based on those facts. Again, re: I did the same with my own team.


I hate OU, yes. But I respect them as our rival. This has absolutely nothing to do with that though. You lay your hands on a young girl breaking bones in her face - I don't want you anywhere near my football team. I would venture to guess most of your own OU brethren would agree with me. You wanna disagree, fine, go on that island. There's bad apples everywhere.

1) Handing down a verdict because of an accusation without knowing the facts is retarded, regardless of what team's players you're talking about. The fact that you're saying boot players from your own team without knowing the facts makes your line of thinking even more retarded

2) If he's guilty, absolutely but we don't know his involvement.

3) Norman police has not stated they are looking to arrest him. That was another news source who is in no way affiliated with Norman PD. Mixon's attorney has said they are not running and are cooperating with the police. No warrant has been issued. You don't know if he was the one who actually committed the assault or if he was just there with the person who did. Neither are good things, but one is obviously more damnable than the other.

So like I said, sit back with the rest of us and let the facts come out instead of fabricating the full story while knowing about 30% of the story.

Got it. So you think Aaron Hernandez should still be a member of the Patriots too? After all, he hasn't gotten to state his side of the story yet, and he hasn't been convicted yet. The Pats really made a mistake there, ya know, jumping to conclusions and all.

He has been charged. That's the difference. This really isn't a hard concept to get. I don't know if I can use smaller words to help you understand.

Ah, got it. So simply being charged means all the facts are now known. Didn't know that.

Because nobody has ever been "charged" without knowing all the facts. By the way:

Police: ?Once we find Joe Mixon, he?ll be arrested? | KFOR.com

Oklahoma RB Joe Mixon to Be Arrested Following Alleged Violent Incident | Bleacher Report

Jesus Christ, are you really this stupid or are you just trying to be combative.


Also, you can post all the news links you want. To this point, the PD has not released an official statement, and if they had a warrant they could've entered his dorm room to search for him if they were indeed there looking to arrest him.

 

[Red_Alert]

from her interview with KOCO in OKC that was posted at 11:36 PM the day after the incident

“My jaw bone, my cheek bone, my sinus and my eye socket are broken,” the victim said.

She says she's been told two different versions of the story, because she doesn't remember all the details.

“One is that he just hit me, and one is that I slapped him because he said some things offensive, and then he punched me,” she said.

In a statement, the OU Athletics Department says, "We are aware of the matter and it is under internal review."

The victim says she plans to press charges against Mixon and possibly even file suit.

“My jaw is completely crooked, and I do have like loose teeth,” she said. “I can’t open my mouth at all. I don’t know. I don’t know why.”

News 9 asked the alleged victim for a picture of her injuries, but she didn't want to because they show too much of her face.

Because nobody knows what she looks like.

 

[HizzleRocker]

I wasn't referring to the case with the Texas players. I was talking about his constant ranting about people making assumptions while his are based in far less factual information.

1) The only 2 things I assumed were that she slapped him and he hit her. (were either of those wrong btw?). In my opinion him hitting her and breaking her face was worse. Under Oklahoma law is his amount of force was not truly and reasonably needed - he is guilty of a felony. I gave my opinion that it is wrong to hit a girl. I gave 2 examples where maybe I could see it different (i.e. she's coming at him with a weapon of sorts, or she is on top of him literally beating him closed fists). An open handed bitch slap does not = break her face in. I think the great great majority of the rest of the civilized world would agree.

2) I applied the same reasoning to my own team. What our 2 ex-players are accused of doing is horrid. I am happy they are gone. If mixon were on our team, I would want him gone.

3) Other than that the only thing I have done is point out when you guys have been wrong about the law. You guys have said some crazy inaccurate things. When you say something that is factually incorrect on a message board don't get bent outta shape when it is pointed out to you.


Now, I have not gone on here and criticized a young girl's character and family whom I don't know. I have not negged a single poster, much less gone around troll negging every post I could find. I have not resorted to childish name calling. Feel free to continue doing that if you want, just because someone doesn't think it's ok to break a young girl's face in. Or we could act like grown ups???

 

[romeo212000]

1) The only 2 things I assumed were that she slapped him and he hit her. (were either of those wrong btw?). In my opinion him hitting her and breaking her face was worse. Under Oklahoma law is his amount of force was not truly and reasonably needed - he is guilty of a felony. I gave my opinion that it is wrong to hit a girl. I gave 2 examples where maybe I could see it different (i.e. she's coming at him with a weapon of sorts, or she is on top of him literally beating him closed fists). An open handed bitch slap does not = break her face in. I think the great great majority of the rest of the civilized world would agree.

2) I applied the same reasoning to my own team. What our 2 ex-players are accused of doing is horrid. I am happy they are gone. If mixon were on our team, I would want him gone.

3) Other than that the only thing I have done is point out when you guys have been wrong about the law. You guys have said some crazy inaccurate things. When you say something that is factually incorrect on a message board don't get bent outta shape when it is pointed out to you.


Now, I have not gone on here and criticized a young girl's character and family whom I don't know. I have not negged a single poster, much less gone around troll negging every post I could find. I have not resorted to childish name calling. Feel free to continue doing that if you want, just because someone doesn't think it's ok to break a young girl's face in. Or we could act like grown ups???

1) Once again, we have no idea what happened. WE DO NOT KNOW. I cannot spell it out for you any more clearly. Get that through your thick skull.

2) Obviously, the Norman PD doesn't see that Mixon deserves to be arrested. The two players from Texas were. Up to this point, you're comparing apples to oranges.

3) You have constantly made assumptions and you pointing out where people were "wrong about the law" was merely your interpretation, and some very labored ones at that. I Negged your posts because you're making shitty troll posts.


Lastly, the evidence points towards her character being questionable. Being arrested for drugs points to that. I don't care how you feel about pot. Deal with it. That last statement is just a perfect example of your broad sweeping chicken shit statements. As if anyone thinks it's okay to just go around breaking girls faces for the fun of it.

You're just pissy because I caught you riding both sides of the fence while you were being a trolling douche.

 

[Goldbug]

Here's the 911 tape.

OU football: Police release 911 call in alleged Joe Mixon assault investigation | News OK

 

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News 9 asked the alleged victim for a picture of her injuries, but she didn't want to because they show too much of her face.

OK. Everybody has seen your face twice now. Let's see a picture of your injuries.

 

[romeo212000]

Here's the 911 tape.

OU football: Police release 911 call in alleged Joe Mixon assault investigation | News OK

So the employee who made the 911 call didn't see what happened, and the police have said is Mixon is part of the investigation as an "involved party", meaning he was there and most likely was involved in an argument of some sort with the girl. That's all we know. We don't know if she slapped Mixon, we don't know if Mixon was the one who got physical with her. Get that through your thick skull Hizzle. This is all we know!

 

[romeo212000]

OK. Everybody has seen your face twice now. Let's see a picture of your injuries.

I'm still not sold that her injuries are as bad as she says.

 

[occupant]

Traber has been trying to pull it out of several callers today, so I'll ask the question:

What would she have to have done to warrant getting punched in the face?
Allegedly she lofted racial epithets, hit, slapped, scratched and spit on him. If he is allowed to respond to physical force with force, what are his politically correct options?

Is he allowed to reciprocate all of her actions? Is he expected to take all of the abuse?

No man here could, with 100% certainty say what they would have done in a similar instance.

We all virtually agree to which extent a man, especially an athlete, should express themselves physically when being accosted by a raging female. But could you guarantee that you wouldn't stroke Barb in the chops after all of that alleged abuse? Spit? What if she had herpes or AIDS or some shit? To what extent are you allowed to defend yourself?

Apparently in texico all men are gentlemen of refinement and sophistication....
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[Goldbug]

My secretary just said something that made me laugh. She said if, repeat if, this girl really was hurling racial epitaphs before taking a poke at someone she is damn lucky it was Joe Mixon instead of someone like Queen Latifah or Whoopi Goldberg. She'd still be in the hospital.

 

[Red_Alert]

My secretary just said something that made me laugh. She said if, repeat if, this girl really was hurling racial epitaphs before taking a poke at someone she is damn lucky it was Joe Mixon instead of someone like Queen Latifah or Whoopi Goldberg. She'd still be in the hospital.

If she were indeed hurling racial epitaphs and then struck him, could it be considered a hate crime?

"Hate crime" generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters

 

[Texas Jefe]

OK. Everybody has seen your face twice now. Let's see a picture of your injuries.

This picture makes her look kind of like a MMC fighter.

 

[HizzleRocker]

So the employee who made the 911 call didn't see what happened, and the police have said is Mixon is part of the investigation as an "involved party", meaning he was there and most likely was involved in an argument of some sort with the girl. That's all we know. We don't know if she slapped Mixon, we don't know if Mixon was the one who got physical with her. Get that through your thick skull Hizzle. This is all we know!

That would be great. Except for the minor fact that his attorney, with him there, admitted that he did. Otherwise that was a fantastic point.

 

[romeo212000]

That would be great. Except for the minor fact that his attorney, with him there, admitted that he did. Otherwise that was a fantastic point.

Where? I haven't seen that. And even if that is the case, we don't know any other details about the incident. So my post is still applicable.

 

[Red_Alert]

This picture makes her look kind of like a MMC fighter.

I was thinking classic Butch lesbian. Maybe one in the same.

 

[Bamabino]

 

[Red_Alert]

Where? I haven't seen that. And even if that is the case, we don't know any other details about the incident. So my post is still applicable.

Yeah. He hit her. His atty has said as much.

The only way I could find fault with him is if he struck her first or if the altercation was over and he struck her a given time later. In other words she was no longer being a physical aggressor.

If his punch was thrown in the course of her attacking him, he should be fine.

 

[Wheat]

1) The only 2 things I assumed were that she slapped him and he hit her. (were either of those wrong btw?).

nowhere in this statement from his lawyer, (is there any other that you know of?) is there any mention of Mixon hitting anybody, so as of yet, it is not known if he did indeed hit her. one story has her being pushed, losing her balance and hitting a table. until the tape is seen, which may never happen, or he is arrested will we know for sure.

“This past Friday morning Joe Mixon found himself in a situation where he was subjected to both verbal and physical attacks from a very intoxicated and troubled young woman. As a result of these physical attacks, Joe instinctually defended himself against further harm.