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What was terrible about the old deals? And why are the new deals so much better? What was the problem we were trying to fix?

Nothing has changed NAFTA is still in full effect.
 

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Jobs. Remember when is was said that "those jobs will never be coming back"? Well with those trade deals and tax plans, he was right. But they did. With a change in policy.

Nonsense! We are still operating under NAFTA.The USMCA agreement has yet to be ratified by congress. Mexico just moved yesterday to ratify it.
 

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Actually, the median income in this country has had the largest 3 year growth in recent times. And unemployment is at a all time low. Of course both are coming off of a very stagnant decade of economic decline. It appears that this has been reversed. All since Trump has taken over and implemented his economic policies.

See this is where I struggle. As I have stated, I have little respect for Trump as a man or as a leader. He is a terrible leader. But that doesn't mean he hasn't done things that have been the right thing to do. But the hate for this guy by some is so deep that they refuse to even accept facts that do show this. they make up stories. Fake news, if you will. And this I really don't understand. There is enough shit on this guy that you don't need to make things up. Just focus on what we know he has done.

Would you post the median income link please. I can't find one that supports or refutes your claim. Thank you!
 

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I guess we look at things a little different. To me, if my pay goes up by 3%, but my cost of living (food, electric, things required to live) go up by roughly the same amount... then that median income was offset by the actual cost of living. 10 years ago, the average American could not afford a medical emergency or to be out of work for more than a month. Today the same still holds true. As I have said its great more people are employed. I just dont see the improvement for the AVERAGE American under the Trump plan.. but rich folks have sure gotten a little richer.

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all of them have and there are as credible as the crap you verified with . when you are done playing the source game let me know

why should I let you know that I'm done "playing" the source game? You wanted evidence to support claims made by posters here and I agree that it's a good idea! Perhaps you've just realized something about your own sources and want to call off the dogs! If that's the case, I'm proud of you man, welcome back to earth!
 

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this thread is about to be gone here very shortly since we still have posters who cant stop launching personal attacks
we have had 3 in 2 weeks after i issued the warning so i doubt much will change and with only one apologizing

so i think its done . just a matter of someone coming to their senses which i doubt
 

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why should I let you know that I'm done "playing" the source game? You wanted evidence to support claims made by posters here and I agree that it's a good idea! Perhaps you've just realized something about your own sources and want to call off the dogs! If that's the case, I'm proud of you man, welcome back to earth!
I believe “everybody” should realize something about their own sources. They’re all biased and slanted. Nobody here on either side of the coin gets their info in an unbiased fashion. We read something against our belief then we search the net until we find something that supports our claim.. and then we have the foolish audacity to lay claim to say,, “well well well lookie here”

No matter what anybody says there will always be an article out there to refute it 100%. Sickens the piss out of me to read the “you’re an idiot” insinuations because their article is the latest posting on the subject until another posting is posted turning the idiot assumption back around to their corner...it’s funny but then we gargle, rinse and repeat. Like ants continuing to build their hill after a bully comes and knocks it down again and again. All the black Trump haters against all the white Obama haters... thats all thats on here, but remember guys.. hating on Obama means you’re a racist but hating on Trump means you’re right. Enough with the idiocy on here and the self proclamations.:L

Taking a break for awhile from all this bullshit. See you hopeless SportsHoopla hooligans when TC starts. Peace.
 

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You don't have to like Trump to understand this is an abuse of our legal system. Flashback: Ken Starr: ELEVEN criminal recommendations for prosecution of Pres. Clinton. Mueller: ZERO criminal recommendation for prosecution of Pres. Trump.

"There was no reason for outgoing Special Counsel Robert Mueller to speak to the media Wednesday. Once again, he has abused the legal system.

Mueller has always known there was never a case against President Trump involving collusion with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election. When Mueller became special counsel there was no such evidence or insufficient evidence, as Mueller now says. To this day, there is no such evidence.

However, that has not stopped Mueller from abusing the American legal system.

In America, prosecutors do not exonerate people. They charge people or they do not. If they do not, in America that means you are innocent. Innocent until proven guilty is a core principle of our legal system, as opposed to Russia’s.

Mueller’s statement Wednesday that he did not exonerate Trump, and Mueller’s use of that standard, are profound abuses of our legal system – especially given the context of his actions. If it was up to Mueller, the entire American criminal justice system would be upended.

How is that not an abuse of the legal system?

There has never been a reason for Mueller to write a report or to speak. No law requires it. No one asked him to do it.

This is Mueller’s James Comey moment. Since January 2017, I have said Mueller would “pull a Comey.” By that, I meant, like fired FBI Director Comey did with Hillary Clinton, Mueller would make allegations against President Trump but not actually recommend charging him with anything.

So, Mueller produced a report over 400 pages long. But that was not enough.

Mueller’s statement Wednesday was his second Comey moment. That conduct is an abuse of the legal system.

Mueller put people in solitary confinement and used SWAT teams. Solitary confinement is meant for disruptive inmates and has been criticized for its negative psychological effects. SWAT teams are meant to take on the violent.

Mueller’s use of those tactics is an abuse of our legal system.
Of course, Mueller is no stranger to abuse of our legal system.

According to Alan Dershowitz: “I think Mueller is a zealot …. He’s the guy who kept four innocent people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover of Whitey Bulger as an FBI informer . . . and that’s regarded in Boston as one of the greatest scandals of modern judicial history. And Mueller was right at the center of it.”

Sounds like an abuse of the American legal system – doesn’t it?" -Tom Del Beccaro
( acclaimed author, speaker and the former Chairman of the California Republican Party. Tom is the author of the historical perspectives "The Divided Era.)"

The last thing I will comment on this subject for now as long as this thread is up ( which won’t be long I suspect )
 

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Could this be Mexico is paying for the wall ?
 

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I disagree with this . People need to hear their voices
 

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This shouldn’t happen
 

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I will do my best to vote amash out
 

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Rich truly rich
 

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What a thrill for the cadets
 
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