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great then you are one of the few . obamacare is poorly designed and its collapsing . hence the call for a new socialist plan


Its collapsing because from the moment it was made into law, certain political party members have been doing everything they can to make it fail instead of make it a success. And now we have gotten to a point where they arent even pretending to have a viable replacement... as long as they get rid of the evil "Obamacare"
 

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Its collapsing because from the moment it was made into law, certain political party members have been doing everything they can to make it fail instead of make it a success. And now we have gotten to a point where they arent even pretending to have a viable replacement... as long as they get rid of the evil "Obamacare"
it was designed to fail , lets get real the goal was single payer govt takeover . and yes viable things to fix health care are on the table and have been . most of our legislators who passed this piece of crap legislation didnt even read it . nancy "lets pass it and see whats in it " pelosi ring a bell . the dems CONTROLLED congress when this passed so please spare me and obama vetoed any and all attempts to change it so again spare me the LSM propaganda
 

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it was designed to fail , lets get real the goal was single payer govt takeover . and yes viable things to fix health care are on the table and have been . most of our legislators who passed this piece of crap legislation didnt even read it . nancy "lets pass it and see whats in it " pelosi ring a bell . the dems CONTROLLED congress when this passed so please spare me and obama vetoed any and all attempts to change it so again spare me the LSM propaganda


If they have a viable replacement plan, Americans would sure like to see it instead of getting the okiedoke of.. well if Trump is re-elected in 2020 THEN they will let you know his super secret Awesome health care plan. Right now it looks like his plan is, get rich or die trying.
 

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If they have a viable replacement plan, Americans would sure like to see it instead of getting the okiedoke of.. well if Trump is re-elected in 2020 THEN they will let you know his super secret Awesome health care plan. Right now it looks like his plan is, get rich or die trying.
then you need to stop watching the LSM and research
 

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Its collapsing because from the moment it was made into law, certain political party members have been doing everything they can to make it fail instead of make it a success. And now we have gotten to a point where they arent even pretending to have a viable replacement... as long as they get rid of the evil "Obamacare"

It is collapsing because it was a poor system. There is nothing in it that would make it successful and cheaper. Like I said, anytime the government is involved, costs go up and results go down.
 

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LSM Journalists this morning:


“Assange is a first amendment hero, sources and methods be damned, transparency now!”


LSM Journalists tomorrow morning:


“Trump ordering attorney general to declassify Russia investigation documents make us all less safe and im literally shaking“
 

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Everyone appears Far-Right when you’re too far on the Left.
 

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Nancy Pelosi is the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. She’s third in line for the presidency. That is quite an accusation to make and she’d be pressed endlessly for details on said “cover-up” if we had a media and not a propaganda arm. But people on this board parrot this nonsense
 

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Well she came out with what sane people already knew . I wonder when the parade of people here will start defending this
 

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Awaiting comment from AOC , ohmar , and tlaida
 

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It disgusts me to think Americans actually voted those terrorist in to our congress.
 

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In the past several weeks, a bevy of states have passed extensive new restrictions on abortion. Alabama has effectively banned abortion from point of conception. Georgia has banned abortion from the time a heartbeat is detected, as have Ohio, Kentucky and Mississippi. Missouri has banned abortion after eight weeks. Other states are on the move as well.

This has prompted paroxysms of rage from the media and the political left — the same folks who celebrated when New York passed a law effectively allowing abortion up until point of birth and who defended Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam's perverse statements about late-term abortion. According to these thinkers, conservatives have encroached on a supposed "right to abortion" inherent in the Constitution.

This, of course, is a lie. There is no "right to abortion" in the Constitution. The founders would have been appalled by such a statement. The Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade (1973) is a legal monstrosity by every available metric: As legal scholar John Hart Ely wrote, Roe "is not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be." The court's rationale is specious; the court relied on the ridiculous precedent in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965) that a broad "right to privacy" can be crafted from "penumbras, formed by emanations." Then the court extended that right to privacy to include the killing of a third party, an unborn human life — and overrode state definitions of human life in the process.

How? The court relied on the self-contradictory notion of "substantive due process" — the belief that a law can be ruled unconstitutional under the Fifth and 14th amendments so long as the court doesn't like the substance of the law. That's asinine, obviously. The due process provision of both amendments was designed to ensure that state and federal government could not remove life, liberty or property without a sufficient legal process, not to broadly allow courts to strike down state definitions of conduct that justify removal of life, liberty and property. As Justice Clarence Thomas has written, "The Fourteenth Amendment's Due Process Clause is not a 'secret repository of substantive guarantees against "unfairness."'"
Nonetheless, the notion that such a right to abortion is enshrined in America's moral fabric has taken hold among the intelligentsia. Thus, we now experience the odd spectacle of those on the political left declaring that the Constitution enshrines a right to abortion — yet does not include a right to bear arms, a right to freedom of political speech, a right to retain property free of government seizure or a right to practice religion.
For much of the left, then, the term "constitutional right" has simply come to mean "thing I want." And that is incredibly dangerous, given that the power of the judiciary springs not from legislative capacity but from supposed interpretive power. Judges are not supposed to read things into the Constitution but to properly read the Constitution itself. The use of the judiciary as a club has led to a feeling of radical frustration among Americans; it has radically exacerbated our culture gap.

The legislative moves in Alabama and other states will open a much-needed debate about the role of the states, the role of legislatures and the role of government. All of that is good for the country. Those who insist, however, that the Supreme Court act as a mechanism for their political priorities are of far more danger to the country than that debate.
 
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How do you feel about the couple of Republicans now calling for Trump’s impeachment?
 
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