politics thread

[skinsdad62]

I did.

Most didn’t

 

[reptec101]

Context this

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._dealers_and_rapists_are_crossing_border.html

Whats false about this. People who cross illegally into the states are: rapist, murderers, thieves and good and honest people. Are you telling me there are not all these types of people amongst the hordes marching in. Are they all saints coming in wanting to read to the blind? Dude, get off the high horse and stop putting more into a story that isnt there. Example: on the Pats undefeated season... The Pats lost the biggest and most important game of the year, but they won some too. This reads like they won a couple games that year when they actually won 18 out of 19.. pretty good season wouldnt you say. In other words.. the term “some” can be very broad or very limited depending on how you choose to read into it. Keep hating.. all good.

 

[Sharkinva]

Most didn’t

BUt I thought as long as it was qualified by the words some did, it was OK??

 

[Sharkinva]

Whats false about this. People who cross illegally into the states are: rapist, murderers, thieves and good and honest people. Are you telling me there are not all these types of people amongst the hordes marching in. Are they all saints coming in wanting to read to the blind? Dude, get off the high horse and stop putting more into a story that isnt there. Example: on the Pats undefeated season... The Pats lost the biggest and most important game of the year, but they won some too. This reads like they won a couple games that year when they actually won 18 out of 19.. pretty good season wouldnt you say. In other words.. the term “some” can be very broad or very limited depending on how you choose to read into it. Keep hating.. all good.

The reality is, the majority of these people are not rapists, murderers or drug dealers. The MAJORITY of these people are trying to make a better life for them and their family and would gladly do so LEGALLY.

The Narrative Trump is pushing and you bought hook line and sinker is, that most of these people are MS-13 and are coming here to make America worse for you.

 

[skinsdad62]

BUt I thought as long as it was qualified by the words some did, it was OK??

Are we conflating again ?

 

[skinsdad62]

The reality is, the majority of these people are not rapists, murderers or drug dealers. The MAJORITY of these people are trying to make a better life for them and their family and would gladly do so LEGALLY.

The Narrative Trump is pushing and you bought hook line and sinker is, that most of these people are MS-13 and are coming here to make America worse for you.

MS 13 has 13000 members . That’s 3 army divisions

See I believe that an Asian an Indian , an African or even a white has just as much a right to come here fairly as anyone . However if you live south of this country people believe they should get special treatment over everyone else and become burdens on our citizens because they feel the are owed something

 

[skinsdad62]

This will be fun

 

[reptec101]

The reality is, the majority of these people are not rapists, murderers or drug dealers. The MAJORITY of these people are trying to make a better life for them and their family and would gladly do so LEGALLY.

The Narrative Trump is pushing and you bought hook line and sinker is, that most of these people are MS-13 and are coming here to make America worse for you.

That the MSM tells you and you buy into it that all Trump supporters believe only 2% of illegals are good people is really where the divide starts. I dont nor anyone ive ever spoken with believe the MAJORITY of these illegals are rapist and murdering MS13 thugs... but you believe we believe.. I wonder why that is.. have you been listening to Don Lemon again? Tsk tsk my friend. Really should put that tv remote down at night... read a book instead. “The Russian Hoax” I believe is a best seller.. lol.

 

[skinsdad62]

Guess this should be booked marked so people can find it a week from now. But another flip flop from a liberal

 

[reptec101]

MS 13 has 13000 members . That’s 3 army divisions

See I believe that an Asian an Indian , an African or even a white has just as much a right to come here fairly as anyone . However if you live south of this country people believe they should get special treatment over everyone else and become burdens on our citizens because they feel the are owed something

Everybody feels they’re owed something even those who are already citizens here. Give me freedom, liberty, free money and free healthcare. Let the white man flip the bill.

 

[reptec101]

Guess this should be booked marked so people can find it a week from now. But another flip flop from a liberal

And never called out to explain himself, but then .. why even ask... he would simple wiggle and lie and not really answer anything.. as hes always done.

 

[Sharkinva]

That the MSM tells you and you buy into it that all Trump supporters believe only 2% of illegals are good people is really where the divide starts. I dont nor anyone ive ever spoken with believe the MAJORITY of these illegals are rapist and murdering MS13 thugs... but you believe we believe.. I wonder why that is.. have you been listening to Don Lemon again? Tsk tsk my friend. Really should put that tv remote down at night... read a book instead. “The Russian Hoax” I believe is a best seller.. lol.

Actually i have been listening to my good friends here on the hoop Redskins board who have railed to no end that Illegal immigrants will be the destruction of America.

And if I want to read Fiction I think I can get a copy of Art of the deal for $2 at the used book store.

 

[reptec101]

Actually i have been listening to my good friends here on the hoop Redskins board who have railed to no end that Illegal immigrants will be the destruction of America.

And if I want to read Fiction I think I can get a copy of Art of the deal for $2 at the used book store.

Seems everybody on political TV is an author now with a number one best seller out there. Funny how they’re always best sellers being claimed on these networks. The lying runs deep.

Best book ive ever read, besides the short stories ive written, (none published) is a book called ‘Manhunt, the 12 day chase for Lincolns killer’

That my friend is a book worth reading.

 

[j_y19]

IF true, he is no more justified than people who say things like Mexico is sending us rapists and murders and I guess some are good people.

I don't disagree. They both say idiotic things.

 

[j_y19]

Actually i have been listening to my good friends here on the hoop Redskins board who have railed to no end that Illegal immigrants will be the destruction of America.

And if I want to read Fiction I think I can get a copy of Art of the deal for $2 at the used book store.

ILLEGAL immigration is bad for this country. There is no way you can justify it other than hatred for Trump. LEGAL immigration, however, is a necessity for us to grow and prosper. I hope you understand the difference. You continually want to bash the enforcement of laws that are in place instead of bashing those lawmakers that keep the bad laws on the books. But I guess asking Cory Booker or Camilla Harris to actually do their job is bit over the top, huh?

And please don't include me in those Trump supporters who you claim to believe all coming across the border are rapists and murders. I have disdain for Trump as I have stated numerous times. But I don't fault him for the enforcement of laws to whatever means necessary (although I do think the wall is a waste of money unless mexico pays for it). For that he has my full support. Don't hate the player, hate the game, in this instance.

 

[j_y19]

I did.

I seriously doubt that your current coverage and costs is anywhere near it was before Obamacare. If so, you are ObamaCare's only shining example of success. Everything else is just completely fucked up in that area.

 

[gkekoa]

The reality is, the majority of these people are not rapists, murderers or drug dealers. The MAJORITY of these people are trying to make a better life for them and their family and would gladly do so LEGALLY.

The Narrative Trump is pushing and you bought hook line and sinker is, that most of these people are MS-13 and are coming here to make America worse for you.

The reality is...we all know a majority of these people are not rapists, thieves, murderers, and drug dealers. We all know most want a better life, even the bad ones.

The reality is they do not want to do this LEGALLY. If they did, then they would immigrate LEGALLY. They want to dictate how our country operates.

That is not Trump’s narrative. Trump’s narrative is MS-13 is coming in with these people and our lax immigration laws allow it.

Now, I want you to go up to Kate Steinle’s parents, or any of the other thousands who have been murdered by people in the country illegally, or any of the women who have been raped, and tell them most of these people are good.

Now realize, the government’s role is to protect ITS CITIZENS. It is not to protect foreigners and their interests. Every citizen’s RIGHTS should be protected by their government. ILLEGALS committing illegal acts is unacceptable.

 

[Sharkinva]

ILLEGAL immigration is bad for this country. There is no way you can justify it other than hatred for Trump. LEGAL immigration, however, is a necessity for us to grow and prosper. I hope you understand the difference. You continually want to bash the enforcement of laws that are in place instead of bashing those lawmakers that keep the bad laws on the books. But I guess asking Cory Booker or Camilla Harris to actually do their job is bit over the top, huh?

And please don't include me in those Trump supporters who you claim to believe all coming across the border are rapists and murders. I have disdain for Trump as I have stated numerous times. But I don't fault him for the enforcement of laws to whatever means necessary (although I do think the wall is a waste of money unless mexico pays for it). For that he has my full support. Don't hate the player, hate the game, in this instance.

I totally agree that LEGAL immigration is the key word here. I find it odd that no one wants to accept that the laws not changing are as much on Mitch McConjob as anyone else though. And it would be too obvious to point out that merit based immigration they all talk about would start and end with people from the supposed non shithole countries, with exceptions for say superior athletes or intellects from the aforementioned shithole countries. Because they have merit.. oh yes and hot chicks. We all know how a nice rack and talent on your knees is Einstein level merit that will even land said immigrants parents on a short list for admittance.

 

[Sharkinva]

I seriously doubt that your current coverage and costs is anywhere near it was before Obamacare. If so, you are ObamaCare's only shining example of success. Everything else is just completely fucked up in that area.

Actually my current coverage is better than it was ten years ago. As for cost, since i tend to look at it as a percentage of my pay, the cost percentage has stayed within the same range it was with admittedly some increase. But i dont expect if they kill the ACA that my costs will magically drop back to 2009 numbers. I do believe that given the chance my insurance would jack my shit through the roof or drop me all together based on pre-existing conditions.

 

[skinsdad62]

Actually my current coverage is better than it was ten years ago. As for cost, since i tend to look at it as a percentage of my pay, the cost percentage has stayed within the same range it was with admittedly some increase. But i dont expect if they kill the ACA that my costs will magically drop back to 2009 numbers. I do believe that given the chance my insurance would jack my shit through the roof or drop me all together based on pre-existing conditions.

great then you are one of the few . obamacare is poorly designed and its collapsing . hence the call for a new socialist plan