politics thread

[gkekoa]

What a ridiculous response.

You’re trying to shift the narrative in multiple paragraphs.

If you dont believe that it is murder to begin with, then there is no “defining of murder.”

Idiots on the right feel that they have the only definition of what does or does not constitute murder, refuse to consider other perspectives or definitions, and then hypocritically impose their will on everybody else.

Like I said, its that simple.

Climate change science is absolutely fact based. Its overwhelmingly proven science. So much so that morons on the right warp those facts into inane talking points (“the climate has always changed! Its cyclical!”).

On every position I mentioned including 2A, climate change, immigration, tac cuts etc., there is inherent hypocrisy from the right.

You idiots want to eliminate a womans right to choose, but will be damned if somebody wants to eliminate your right to an assault rifle.

Republicans and their ideology arw a scourge on Christianity, and on everything that is America.

How am I trying to shift the narrative? I responded to each point you made.

1- The definition of murder is the unlawful, premeditated murder of another. The question is what should be lawful...it always has been in this discussion. Your next statement is the exact point we try to make with you. You say the right are a bunch of idiots because they think have the only definition of murder, but couldn’t I say the same thing about you and the left? You claim to have the only definition of murder. What perspective would you like me to consider? That of the woman? I have considered it. Let me weigh the comfort and wishes of a woman versus the life of a child...hmmm, not a tough choice at all. I am also waiting for you to tell me how the opinion is hypocritical...maybe you should look up the definition of words before using them.

2- How is it settled science? You don’t need the word overwhelming if you use proven. Show me how it is proven. Show me how weather is not cyclical and hasn’t changed throughout history.

I challenge you to read this with an open mind... Are climate skeptics right?

Maybe read this article... New Study Says Global Warming Models Are Flawed | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

3- A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I posted mine...can you post yours. This is an actual RIGHT...not a made up one.

Now show me the hypocrisy. Look the word up if you need to.

4- How are Republicans a scourge on Christianity? How are they a scourge on the US? You really are a bigot, aren’t you?

 

[gkekoa]

a) when human life begins is open to debate. Also, the government isnt interested in protecting human life. Otherwise 2a would be revised, death penalty would be eliminated, social services would be expanded, etc.

b) Yes, they do. See above.

Are you a drunk? Is that why you come across so ignorant?

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

The patriot AOC

I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with posting updates on this wack job. Is anyone here defending her? Do you really believe most libs believe what she spews? She no more represents the Democrats than Joe McCarthy represented the rank and file Republican near the end of McCarthyism.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Are you a drunk? Is that why you come across so ignorant?

Down boy.

 

[skinsdad62]

I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with posting updates on this wack job. Is anyone here defending her? Do you really believe most libs believe what she spews? She no more represents the Democrats than Joe McCarthy represented the rank and file Republican near the end of McCarthyism.

talk to chiller. according to him she is a patriot . but beyond that when every democratic /liberal /socialist candidate has said they will follow her ideas (and in fact do ) , well then you need to be shown what and who you are voting for

so you tell me

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

talk to chiller. according to him she is a patriot . but beyond that when every democratic /liberal /socialist candidate has said they will follow her ideas (and in fact do ) , well then you need to be shown what and who you are voting for

so you tell me

I'm not here enough to know if this is true, I'll let @chillerdab respond. But you are posting such strange stuff. So Ocasio-Cortez once praised a man who says stupid shit about ISIS, so what? You actually believe that means ALL Dems support his ideas that those supporting ISIS should not be punished? I just fail to see the purpose of your posts

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Mainstream media is a term and abbreviation used to refer collectively to the various large mass news media that influence a large number of people, and both reflect and shape prevailing currents of thought.

By the definition of Main Stream Media, Fox would in fact be a part of the Main Stream Media.

I'm with Dad here, you are arguing a point not worth debating. While technically you are correct it's pretty common knowledge what is meant by the MSM.

 

[Sharkinva]

I'm with Dad here, you are arguing a point not worth debating. While technically you are correct it's pretty common knowledge what is meant by the MSM.

OH i know exactly what the term was coined for and why. It is used as I stated, to describe media coverage that the right winger find unpalatable or unpleasant.

 

[skinsdad62]

I'm not here enough to know if this is true, I'll let @chillerdab respond. But you are posting such strange stuff. So Ocasio-Cortez once praised a man who says stupid shit about ISIS, so what? You actually believe that means ALL Dems support his ideas that those supporting ISIS should not be punished? I just fail to see the purpose of your posts

if you were informed with stuff i have posted you would know the foolishness of your question . please get informed and understand where it leads and what is really being said instead of your primitive gotcha attempts

 

[skinsdad62]

OH i know exactly what the term was coined for and why. It is used as I stated, to describe media coverage that the right winger find unpalatable or unpleasant.

no , its used to describe the overwhelming lack of equality in coverage and further testimony as to why "you know who" was elected

if you were informed you would realize that the vast majority of TV , and print news and education is left wing and pushes an agenda not simply spinning like the uninformed people want to portray

if you read and did what i challenged you to do you would understand this

however you have failed to do this and hence parrot democratic / liberal / socialist talking points with primitive retorts rewound over 1000 times day in and day out

i have been right about collusion , the election and what is about to come down using nothing more then C span , IG testimony , the muellar report and the congressional reports .

perhaps you should go to my sources and listen to ALL the news and then you will see

but even the most basic questions i have posed here have been ignored simply because you are a part of it (not likely ) are uninformed ( probable ) or just have one thing on your mind (trump hate, very likely
) in which case these debates could have been ended years ago because common sense would not apply

if you trust the MSM then do so at your own peril . i on the other hand will question everything

 

[Sharkinva]

no , its used to describe the overwhelming lack of equality in coverage and further testimony as to why "you know who" was elected

if you were informed you would realize that the vast majority of TV , and print news and education is left wing and pushes an agenda not simply spinning like the uninformed people want to portray

if you read and did what i challenged you to do you would understand this

however you have failed to do this and hence parrot democratic / liberal / socialist talking points with primitive retorts rewound over 1000 times day in and day out

i have been right about collusion , the election and what is about to come down using nothing more then C span , IG testimony , the muellar report and the congressional reports .

perhaps you should go to my sources and listen to ALL the news and then you will see

but even the most basic questions i have posed here have been ignored simply because you are a part of it (not likely ) are uninformed ( probable ) or just have one thing on your mind (trump hate, very likely
) in which case these debates could have been ended years ago because common sense would not apply

if you trust the MSM then do so at your own peril . i on the other hand will question everything

Use of the word equality in your posts is rather priceless. You dont want equality, you much like Trump want capitulation.

I hate the mans stance in just about every possible context because he does not stand for equality and neither does Fox News.

 

[Stymietee]

1. Prove it, scientifically! I don't disagree that life begins at conception, but that's entirely different from it being a person, human or otherwise!

2. The life cycle proves that "fully developed" is a misnomer. If you disagree, at what point do we maximally achieve this stage of development?

3. Mortality is a finite human condition. There is zero evidence that supports anything beyond what's known about mortality. BTW: Immortality exists only in the hearts and minds of those left behind. Since this is a politics thread, I'll use George Washington as an example. He lived from Feb 22, 1732 - Dec 14, 1799, 67 years in all and yet here we are, 219 years later with almost instant recall of who he was.

1- You are a denier then. I just posted two works on scientific life at conception. Is it really different than being a person, which is described as a human being, which is in the species homo sapien. If it is a life, what species is it? Come on...you can say it.

2- The life cycle absolutely proves there is an end to the developmental stages.

3- who cares? You think I don’t believe in mortality? Why change the discussion?[/QUOTE]

1. Hahahahaha

2. OK, so I'll ask again, at what point does development end prior to and not beyond death?

3. The mortality entry was merely a SN. I ignored your attempt to make a point about morality. Considering almost everything that you've posted thus far related to the subject, I didn't think it necessary.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

if you were informed with stuff i have posted you would know the foolishness of your question . please get informed and understand where it leads and what is really being said instead of your primitive gotcha attempts

You really aren't good at this. Instead of issuing a response you submit this vague shot at me?

 

[Sportster 72]

You really aren't good at this. Instead of issuing a response you submit this vague shot at me?

Actually dad is quite articulate. You may not agree with what he says but he writes well, his points are clear. Sty and shark are also very articulate. I give them all credit. I don't agree with anyone lock stock and barrel but their posts are thought out and defend their beliefs. Now a bigger question is how much of the research is true or instead they believe to be true.

What I do notice is 511 pages later not one person has changed their beliefs and if they write another 94924293274297424 pages I expect it will be the same. It would be kind of like me and Sty figuring how good Ryan Kerrigan is.

One of the funny things is the forefathers set the government up knowing there was going to be a dad, shark, Sty, gk, ehb and DGF. They knew not everyone would agree with each other. Hell thousands of years ago not everyone agreed with each other. There was probably a fair amount of name calling back then …. I think there is some in the Bible. There was probably a lot of "you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground." So the good news is you guys have carried on centuries worth of the same behavior.

 

[Stymietee]

Eight week vs monster who never should have been given a sentence of life behind bars but executed after conviction on the spot, and i'll add,, televised. Tell me im wrong. I'll never understand why the death penalty is such a tuff subject for some.

btw, was this eight week pic taken 'after' an abortion? Looks like a lot of blood... and remember... blood is life. The bible mentions this numerous times in the bible. So maybe life begins when the first blood drop forms. Not a sermon,,, just a thought.

To understand why all of the consternation there is with respect to the death penalty, one simply has to look at three things. The first involves the unfairness surrounding its historical application. The second America's attempt to mask its inhumanity with some semblance of justice. Finally, the one that you've mentioned...the bible and its alternate messages of putting people to death for certain sins and admonishing by commandment to not kill. BTW: there are plenty of people on either side of the political spectrum who supports the death penalty and are against it.

This is an aborted photo. there's always a lot of blood, but I have to take exception to your characterization of blood being life. It is the basis of life as used biblically and the first of 12 that has near equal importance medically. Blood is extremely important in maintaining life, it however, is only 9% of all bodily fluids and life without some of the others would also be impossible.

 

[Stymietee]

Why is it so hard for them to tell the truth? Two reasons...money and power.

Oh I have no problem with a balance, we need both sides represented. But I will never let Dad continue to make the claim that his sources are not also guilty of being bias and misleading because that is simply a crock of shit.

I hear conservative personalities spew stuff like Dems want open borders, Dams hate American, they want to come to your house and take your guns. This is all complete nonsense but their listeners believe every word. This is no different than CNN slanting the views of their audience with their coverage.

They all manipulate the facts. I'm just so tired of all political networks. The left side spends 24 hours each day trashing the president configuring each and every story to make it appear Trump is an incompetent buffoon while the other side spends 24 hrs each day configuring that he isn't. Just tell the people like it is... let us decide!! Quit brain washing everyone on how their political bias sees the world. Why is it so hard to tell the truth on things. Think about it. Each network has ties to a party.... yet we watch and believe what they tell us. In reality... we will never know the exact truth on anything. Yet we keep on debating our talking points as only we've heard it... and there lies the divide. It aint Trump... it aint Obama... its the effin media. This worlds gotz some issues.

This is in part why Ronald Reagan was among the worse presidents in the modern era! It was during his administration that the "Fairness Doctrine" was abolished. (I'll post a link) Now with respect to the doctrine subsequent presidents have also refused to reinstate it, in its original form. I'm pretty sure that it would get some consideration if a modern version of it was introduced with a proviso that includes network television and talk shows. We used to have true fairness and balance in our television news, I suspect that this was before some here were born, and as a people we should all, in one voice, insist upon its return with the modifications mentioned.

Reagan's Veto Kills Fairness Doctrine Bill - LA Times
www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-06-21-mn-8908-story.html

A Brief History Of the Fairness Doctrine - TIME
content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1880786,00.html

 

[Stymietee]

What a ridiculous response.

You’re trying to shift the narrative in multiple paragraphs.

If you dont believe that it is murder to begin with, then there is no “defining of murder.”

Idiots on the right feel that they have the only definition of what does or does not constitute murder, refuse to consider other perspectives or definitions, and then hypocritically impose their will on everybody else.

Like I said, its that simple.

Climate change science is absolutely fact based. Its overwhelmingly proven science. So much so that morons on the right warp those facts into inane talking points (“the climate has always changed! Its cyclical!”).

On every position I mentioned including 2A, climate change, immigration, tac cuts etc., there is inherent hypocrisy from the right.

You idiots want to eliminate a womans right to choose, but will be damned if somebody wants to eliminate your right to an assault rifle.

Republicans and their ideology arw a scourge on Christianity, and on everything that is America.[/

 

[Stymietee]

fox isnt MSM nice try

OK, let's play it your way! If it isn't part of the mainstream media,(MSM) what is it? (I dare you to say that it's independent broadcasting)

 

[Stymietee]

And you know damn good and well the MSM and Fox are separated . Stop playing sty word games . You know exactly what I mean and anyone else who refers to the MSM

Let's end this nonsense now!

main·stream me·di·a
[mainstream media]
NOUN
(the mainstream media)

1. traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets.
   "the mainstream media doesn't always cover these issues"

You don't like the well established definition? Fine, let's try a conservative viewpoint!

Mainstream media - Conservapedia
www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mainstream_media

 

[reptec101]

This is in part why Ronald Reagan was among the worse presidents in the modern era! It was during his administration that the "Fairness Doctrine" was abolished. (I'll post a link) Now with respect to the doctrine subsequent presidents have also refused to reinstate it, in its original form. I'm pretty sure that it would get some consideration if a modern version of it was introduced with a proviso that includes network television and talk shows. We used to have true fairness and balance in our television news, I suspect that this was before some here were born, and as a people we should all, in one voice, insist upon its return with the modifications mentioned.

Reagan's Veto Kills Fairness Doctrine Bill - LA Times
www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-06-21-mn-8908-story.html

A Brief History Of the Fairness Doctrine - TIME
content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1880786,00.html

Reagan is ranked in top 15 in historical rankings as best president. However, I don't trust any polls on anything anymore. The US is so divided on political affiliation that you simply can't put stock in any poll these days. No one on the right would dare say Obama was good and no one on the left would ever say Trump has even done one thing well. Please everyone save the "thats because either/or are idiots" kindergarten crap. Before cable news networks; local programming kept away from opinionated news reporting... at least perhaps they weren't so obvious. The WP and NYT among others weren't even as slanted as they are now. Though to be fair perhaps we never noticed because FOX wasn't around to dispute any claims made. Point is to this rambling rating presidents is a personal opinion and polls are as biased as anything else.