politics thread

[gkekoa]

1- You are a denier then. I just posted two works on scientific life at conception. Is it really different than being a person, which is described as a human being, which is in the species homo sapien. If it is a life, what species is it? Come on...you can say it.

2- The life cycle absolutely proves there is an end to the developmental stages.

3- who cares? You think I don’t believe in mortality? Why change the discussion?

1. Hahahahaha

2. OK, so I'll ask again, at what point does development end prior to and not beyond death?

3. The mortality entry was merely a SN. I ignored your attempt to make a point about morality. Considering almost everything that you've posted thus far related to the subject, I didn't think it necessary.[/QUOTE]

2- Adulthood is when the organism known as Homo Sapien is fully developed. It isn’t an arbitrarily assigned number. I would say we are fully developed when we reach our physical peak as a species. After that point, I would no longer call it development and start calling it degradation.

3- I didn’t bring up mortality. You did, so of course I made a point. It wasn’t necessary until you brought it up.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Actually dad is quite articulate. You may not agree with what he says but he writes well, his points are clear. Sty and shark are also very articulate. I give them all credit. I don't agree with anyone lock stock and barrel but their posts are thought out and defend their beliefs. Now a bigger question is how much of the research is true or instead they believe to be true.

What I do notice is 511 pages later not one person has changed their beliefs and if they write another 94924293274297424 pages I expect it will be the same. It would be kind of like me and Sty figuring how good Ryan Kerrigan is.

One of the funny things is the forefathers set the government up knowing there was going to be a dad, shark, Sty, gk, ehb and DGF. They knew not everyone would agree with each other. Hell thousands of years ago not everyone agreed with each other. There was probably a fair amount of name calling back then …. I think there is some in the Bible. There was probably a lot of "you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground." So the good news is you guys have carried on centuries worth of the same behavior.

@skinsdad62 frustrates me. Instead of answering my posts he is constantly referencing posts he has made in the past without providing the info again, as you said this thread is 511 posts and it's impossible for me to find the ones he is referencing as I have explained to him. He is also very stubborn, to claim the MSM is biased (which they are) but not being able to acknowledge the conservative sources are as well is complete and udder bullshit.

 

[gkekoa]

To understand why all of the consternation there is with respect to the death penalty, one simply has to look at three things. The first involves the unfairness surrounding its historical application. The second America's attempt to mask its inhumanity with some semblance of justice. Finally, the one that you've mentioned...the bible and its alternate messages of putting people to death for certain sins and admonishing by commandment to not kill. BTW: there are plenty of people on either side of the political spectrum who supports the death penalty and are against it.

This is an aborted photo. there's always a lot of blood, but I have to take exception to your characterization of blood being life. It is the basis of life as used biblically and the first of 12 that has near equal importance medically. Blood is extremely important in maintaining life, it however, is only 9% of all bodily fluids and life without some of the others would also be impossible.

1- the law isn’t supposed to be fair. It is supposed to be “just.”

2- humanity is not an objective measure.

3- thou shalt not kill is a message to individuals in their personal interactions. It isn’t a basis for “justice,” and God is a “just” God.

 

[skinsdad62]

Let's end this nonsense now!

main·stream me·di·a
[mainstream media]
NOUN
(the mainstream media)

1. traditional or established broadcasting or publishing outlets.
   "the mainstream media doesn't always cover these issues"

You don't like the well established definition? Fine, let's try a conservative viewpoint!

Mainstream media - Conservapedia
www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mainstream_media

you can thhrow up all the BS you want but you know when someone refers to the MSM what is being said period

 

[skinsdad62]

OK, let's play it your way! If it isn't part of the mainstream media,(MSM) what is it? (I dare you to say that it's independent broadcasting)

see what gets reported and how then you have your answer

 

[Sharkinva]

see what gets reported and how then you have your answer

So State TV then... got it

 

[skinsdad62]

You really aren't good at this. Instead of issuing a response you submit this vague shot at me?

you are really not good at this . you ask for answers to questions that have already been covered and are to lazy to search it for yourself

then i have to do the leg work , find it , then bring it forward for you to say "oops " or a deflection comes about

your " give me a list " of things you dont support Trump on is a semi example . i give you one , that isnt good enough , i post 4 more over the past week and no response from you . a few weeks from now you will circle back to the same point and claim i didnt post those either . then i will say search engine them , you will claim "i cant find them " and want me to go back and find them for you so you again get amnesia and claim you didnt se it again . sorry but i dont have time to go back over and over again on things i have already posted

and i will note you gave no responses to the additional 4 i posted typically

 

[chillerdab]

Are you a drunk? Is that why you come across so ignorant?

A perfect response from you to prove my point exactly.

Thanks for that.

More than one definition of when life begins, more than one perspective, yet only the angry, closeminded, hypocritical rightwingers are trying to dictate their terms on everybody.

 

[skinsdad62]

Use of the word equality in your posts is rather priceless. You dont want equality, you much like Trump want capitulation.

I hate the mans stance in just about every possible context because he does not stand for equality and neither does Fox News.

another foolish statement and if you watched fox news you would know how foolish your statement is

and now i know why you didnt take up my challenge

 

[skinsdad62]

here is my beef with the press . its become the arm of the democratic party . shark and others think this is something new with just trump , but no it is not . it happened to reagon , and both Bush's as well .

when stories are pushed to run an agenda (as i have shown numerous times ) that isnt reporting the news . that is propaganda

when you have have like 8 TV news outlets and all are leftist and want to complain about i right wing station there is something wrong with your thinking

when you sit down and get 94% negative coverage on any president on any side and dont question what you are getting then the problem is with you

hell if it were 60-70 % i could accept that

look at the NZ coverage and compare it to the sri lanka coverage (?) not even close on air time

look at the recent school shooting . once it was found out the perp was a transgender trump hater well the coverage went down the tubes because it damaged narratives

look at illegal immigration , i post almost daily about serious crimes illegals commit . yet the MSM rarely will report on even one

so to even begin to say anything derogatory said about Trump is my driving force is just sheer lunacy or not being able to legitimately counter what i am saying

i am a conservative period . trump will be gone someday , and we will need a new guy or gal . no trump doesnt do everything a conservative would but it beats the socialist alternative every time

 

[skinsdad62]

A perfect response from you to prove my point exactly.

Thanks for that.

More than one definition of when life begins, more than one perspective, yet only the angry, closeminded, hypocritical rightwingers are trying to dictate their terms on everybody.

and that is any different the socialist left wingers dictating their views ? please come to the table with more then this

 

[skinsdad62]

So State TV then... got it

no absolutely not just educate yourself on what the MSM really is

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

you are really not good at this . you ask for answers to questions that have already been covered and are to lazy to search it for yourself

then i have to do the leg work , find it , then bring it forward for you to say "oops " or a deflection comes about

your " give me a list " of things you dont support Trump on is a semi example . i give you one , that isnt good enough , i post 4 more over the past week and no response from you . a few weeks from now you will circle back to the same point and claim i didnt post those either . then i will say search engine them , you will claim "i cant find them " and want me to go back and find them for you so you again get amnesia and claim you didnt se it again . sorry but i dont have time to go back over and over again on things i have already posted

and i will note you gave no responses to the additional 4 i posted typically

Again I am not here on a regular basis and I sure don't see the posts when I checked the Alerts function of posts of mine that were quoted as they only go back 3 pages. So if you addressed it I sure didn't see it and have little way to see them now. As for your position that it's only the MSM who distorts the truth and your sources are completely fair and unbiased, well that's a total crock of shit.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

you are really not good at this . you ask for answers to questions that have already been covered and are to lazy to search it for yourself

then i have to do the leg work , find it , then bring it forward for you to say "oops " or a deflection comes about

your " give me a list " of things you dont support Trump on is a semi example . i give you one , that isnt good enough , i post 4 more over the past week and no response from you . a few weeks from now you will circle back to the same point and claim i didnt post those either . then i will say search engine them , you will claim "i cant find them " and want me to go back and find them for you so you again get amnesia and claim you didnt se it again . sorry but i dont have time to go back over and over again on things i have already posted

and i will note you gave no responses to the additional 4 i posted typically

So as I can't see your posts can you PLEASE show me where the rank and file Dems are in support of all of AOC's radical positions?

 

[Sharkinva]

no absolutely not just educate yourself on what the MSM really is

For all the bitching and moaning I hear about the MSM, the only thing I have ever seen Fox and the right wing media disagree with Trump on is when he has not been cruel enough in their eyes over the people at the border. Thats state TV bubba. They agree with and praise the leader at every turn and try to downplay anything that might be negative about him.

 

[Sportster 72]

For all the bitching and moaning I hear about the MSM, the only thing I have ever seen Fox and the right wing media disagree with Trump on is when he has not been cruel enough in their eyes over the people at the border. Thats state TV bubba. They agree with and praise the leader at every turn and try to downplay anything that might be negative about him.

Spot on! Fox News does caress Trumps nut sack, just like they stuck pins and needles in Obamas. Compare that to CNN, NBC News, MSNBC and most other media outlets and it is the same thing in reverse. Both the liberal and conservative media try to slant the news in the direction they believe in and want us to believe.

Call them whatever you will they are both guilty. You can turn on whatever station you want to if you want news, just listen to it with a discerning mind and don't become of whichever lynch mob.

I don't know what everyone else sees but I see a huge mess on both sides and a bunch of people who don't negotiate for the best of everyone but instead they all say it is my way or the highway.

Once upon a time when I heard we could get sports around the clock with ESPN, on radio etc., I thought oh man … this great …. around the clock sports. It wasn't good for sports and it isn't good for politics either.

 

[skinsdad62]

For all the bitching and moaning I hear about the MSM, the only thing I have ever seen Fox and the right wing media disagree with Trump on is when he has not been cruel enough in their eyes over the people at the border. Thats state TV bubba. They agree with and praise the leader at every turn and try to downplay anything that might be negative about him.

well perhaps you need to watch it more and not listen to left wing interpretations of it

 

[skinsdad62]

So as I can't see your posts can you PLEASE show me where the rank and file Dems are in support of all of AOC's radical positions?

every leading candidate for president supports her views save maybe one . its there go look

 

[skinsdad62]

Again I am not here on a regular basis and I sure don't see the posts when I checked the Alerts function of posts of mine that were quoted as they only go back 3 pages. So if you addressed it I sure didn't see it and have little way to see them now. As for your position that it's only the MSM who distorts the truth and your sources are completely fair and unbiased, well that's a total crock of shit.

you have plenty of way , its called go back and look scrolling back as far as needed . .if it means that much to you , you will do it , if not so what ? i am not going back to dig it up for you to satisfy you . done that enough here already with others

 

[skinsdad62]