politics thread

[Sportster 72]

If you understood my point you would have addressed it. Again my claim was not that there is mud slinging on only one side, of course that goes both ways. It's not that if you disagree with said position you are ignorant. No the point was the right seems to follow a pattern of lumping people as liberals simply because they hold certain liberal views while retaining conservative or in my case moderate positions on other issues. I never claimed it is done by every Trump supporter, I'm just pointing out a clear pattern that I have seen from the right, a pattern I have not seen from the left nearly as often.

I can't be any more clear about what I am saying. . If you still don't get it you just ain't gonna get it.

How many times can I say I understand your point and believe it is half a point. You have said the same thing 349853985574747547676 times now and so have I. I'll check out on this one because clearly you are not seeing where I am in part agreeing with you while you are telling me one side does this more than the other one.

By the way DGF I really do get it. I am a fairly smart person and politically aware. What am not is an extremist. I don't always agree with others but I respect their right to have that opinion. That is what our government is about. Freedom of thought. I agree people may not be letting you have free thought without categorizing you. I voted for Trump because I hate HRC. Does that make me a Nazi, white supremacist, a racist? Certainly people are being lumped into those categories.

Maybe you are talking about one forum and what people say to you. I am talking the US as a whole. Both sides. Fox News thinks Trump never did anything wrong, CNN and MSNBC thing he hasn't done anything wrong. Insert Obama and switch the rolls the media played in each case. This is what scares me, we need independent thought and a willingness to compromise. We must know how to, if you are married you have certainly compromised or you would never get to see her birthday suit again or you would in divorce court giving up half. Round about way of saying we need to all get along and stop the name calling.

 

[Sharkinva]

I really don't think either side is going to get together and sing kumbaya. LOL

Sadly we have the same problem in our government. We have become a government of stagnation. Once side says "let's do this" and the other side say "not happening." We are governing by executive order and now in the courts. Our politicians are two faced hypocrites. They say things to get elected yet never live those lives or really work for the betterment of everyone.

Every work day I ride past the Capital twice, I get all US proud … then I remember the clowns … on both sides inside there and laugh to myself. We need term limits.

Term limits is just a start. We need corporate money out of politics. We damn sure need religion OUT OF politics. We need a truly representative government in BOTH legislative branches of congress.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

How many times can I say I understand your point and believe it is half a point. You have said the same thing 349853985574747547676 times now and so have I. I'll check out on this one because clearly you are not seeing where I am in part agreeing with you while you are telling me one side does this more than the other one.

By the way DGF I really do get it. I am a fairly smart person and politically aware. What am not is an extremist. I don't always agree with others but I respect their right to have that opinion. That is what our government is about. Freedom of thought. I agree people may not be letting you have free thought without categorizing you. I voted for Trump because I hate HRC. Does that make me a Nazi, white supremacist, a racist? Certainly people are being lumped into those categories.

Maybe you are talking about one forum and what people say to you. I am talking the US as a whole. Both sides. Fox News thinks Trump never did anything wrong, CNN and MSNBC thing he hasn't done anything wrong. Insert Obama and switch the rolls the media played in each case. This is what scares me, we need independent thought and a willingness to compromise. We must know how to, if you are married you have certainly compromised or you would never get to see her birthday suit again or you would in divorce court giving up half. Round about way of saying we need to all get along and stop the name calling.

As I said I have seen this pattern on 2 different very active political forums, here and on another site. As I said I saw it again with Dad who refused to believe a poster who said he had conservative views on other issues as he labeled him a liberal based on his position on specific issues.

I am simply pointing out this pattern. All of your other comments that don't deal with that specific issue is off point because that's never been what I was talking about.

 

[Sportster 72]

As I said I have seen this pattern on 2 different very active political forums, here and on another site. As I said I saw it again with Dad who refused to believe a poster who said he had conservative views on other issues as he labeled him a liberal based on his position on specific issues.

I am simply pointing out this pattern. All of your other comments that don't deal with that specific issue is off point because that's never been what I was talking about.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I have no idea what that emoji is supposed to mean but I think we're done here. Have a good day.

 

[skinsdad62]

i refuse to buy this poster is a conservative because his views dont match up with conservative positions period, as far as the debating topics on this board so far

if that is an issue then so be it

 

[Sportster 72]

I have no idea what that emoji is supposed to mean but I think we're done here. Have a good day.

Agree DGF. We are just knocking heads and that really wasn't my intent with you or anyone on the political forum. Enjoy your day.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Agree DGF. We are just knocking heads and that really wasn't my intent with you or anyone on the political forum. Enjoy your day.

Just got an ebike, a bike with a small electric motor. I needed it so I can get my fat ass up these hills here in Mount Airy. Now that the rain has stopped I'm about to take off. Later.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

i refuse to buy this poster is a conservative because his views dont match up with conservative positions period, as far as the debating topics on this board so far

if that is an issue then so be it

But dad you don't have to line up 100% behind every position to be either conservative or liberal. I'm definitely liberal, so how do you explain my position with regard to the Confederate statues, $15 minimum wage, 2nd Amendment and a few others? By your logic if you just saw my posts on those topics you would label me a conservative and I'm certainly not that.

 

[skinsdad62]

But dad you don't have to line up 100% behind every position to be either conservative or liberal. I'm definitely liberal, so how do you explain my position with regard to the Confederate statues, $15 minimum wage, 2nd Amendment and a few others? By your logic if you just saw my posts on those topics you would label me a conservative and I'm certainly not that.

never said that , however everyone we have discussed doesnt match up period

 

[ehb5]

i refuse to buy this poster is a conservative because his views dont match up with conservative positions period, as far as the debating topics on this board so far

if that is an issue then so be it

Look if you haven't paid enough attention to what I actually say fine.

But to then declare what my beliefs actually are for me is comical.

I assume you will be ok with me referring to you as a socialist and authoritarian from here out right?

 

[chillerdab]

Dude, you cant be taken seriously with those beliefs.

Two things:

1) I’m pretty sure that if I spent my time worrying if anonymous internet posters took my posts seriously, I’d have bigger issues to worry about then that, and

2) I followed up an extreme post with commentary on my extreme post, and it appears as though some of the people I may or may not have been referring to did exactly what they were expected to do.

I cant help it if the right is full of dumb people. It just is.

 

[chillerdab]

A case in point …. I rest my case.

You arent making any point at all.

 

[chillerdab]

Pretty sure we are all smart enough to understand your point and disagree that this is only done by Trump supporters. Our position is it is done by both sides so I guess we agree with you in part. Maybe you don't understand out point. Chill has yet to come on this thread and call everyone that does not believe in what he believes ignorant Republicans. Is everyone who considers themselves a Republican ignorant or just ignorant in Chills mind.

First of all, it is you who are making sweeping generalizations with respect to what i think.

Frankly, I know quite a few rational, sane, very well informed Republicans, but none of them seem to be on this thread:

If your handle is “libhater,” one can assume that you’re ignorant.

If you continue to believe that there is a deep state, that the mainstream media is liberal, and/or that there is some kind of government conspiracy to deny conservatives their right for information, its safe to say that you are ignorant.

If you believe that the government is coming for your guns, that the climate is not warming, or things that come out of the mouths of any politician - right or left - Orange Cheetoh or Grandma Pelosi - is the absolute truth, chances are you’re pretty ignorant.

If you cant see the merits of your opponents argument, on every position they have, chances are you’re ignorant.

 

[chillerdab]

1950’s? again.. you gotta stop. To think Trumps MAGA means to get blacks to the back of the bus again is as stupid as believing AOC is an American hero. Hitting the sack but I know we both would love to see a better America where everyone is treated equal. Lets just hope one day the people of America can support a president in unison. Peace.

Naturally, you did everything you could to support Barrack Obama when he was President, right reptec?

Or did you mean that everybody should support the fascist we have now, because you agree with his idiocy?

 

[j_y19]

It's as if you guys still don't get my point. It's very simple. I have a seen a pattern from the right that is pretty clear. If someone has one or a few opinions that are considered liberal that person is automatically branded as a liberal on all other issues when that is simply not the case in many instances. These posts don't really address that point.

And I’m telling you that they haven’t labeled me that way though I have been critical of Trump. Why do you think you are being treated differently?

 

[Sportster 72]

First of all, it is you who are making sweeping generalizations with respect to what i think.

Frankly, I know quite a few rational, sane, very well informed Republicans, but none of them seem to be on this thread:

If your handle is “libhater,” one can assume that you’re ignorant.

If you continue to believe that there is a deep state, that the mainstream media is liberal, and/or that there is some kind of government conspiracy to deny conservatives their right for information, its safe to say that you are ignorant.

If you believe that the government is coming for your guns, that the climate is not warming, or things that come out of the mouths of any politician - right or left - Orange Cheetoh or Grandma Pelosi - is the absolute truth, chances are you’re pretty ignorant.

If you cant see the merits of your opponents argument, on every position they have, chances are you’re ignorant.

I believe my only generalization is that you keep calling folks here ignorant Republicans. Actually that is name calling but dad has let you slide.

I don't really discuss my politics other than when ehb asked me where I was politically and I told him I was a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

 

[Stymietee]

WOW! This thread certainly has gone backasswards. we are all people and as such have differing opinions on different subjects. Let's take one of the more recent issues of our time...healthcare.

Anyone here believe that there's no one on the planet who shouldn't have the best health available? Yes, then the question becomes how we provide cost effective access to the same for everyone in this country, correct? The current system doesn't provide that and it costs everyone who currently does have it more, as costs continue to skyrocket.

Now is this a Republican or Democratic issue or one about human decency? If you selected "human decency" then clearly you're NOT an Republican or Democratic asshole, congratulations!

 

[Sharkinva]

WOW! This thread certainly has gone backasswards. we are all people and as such have differing opinions on different subjects. Let's take one of the more recent issues of our time...healthcare.

Anyone here believe that there's no one on the planet who shouldn't have the best health available? Yes, then the question becomes how we provide cost effective access to the same for everyone in this country, correct? The current system doesn't provide that and it costs everyone who currently does have it more, as costs continue to skyrocket.

Now is this a Republican or Democratic issue or one about human decency? If you selected "human decency" then clearly you're NOT an Republican or Democratic asshole, congratulations!

When elements of human decency become objects of financial profit, the odds that someone will decide to put profit over decency is bound to happen. The reason health care costs so much in this country is greed. The reason weed is still illegal on a federal level is greed.

 

[reptec101]

Naturally, you did everything you could to support Barrack Obama when he was President, right reptec?

Or did you mean that everybody should support the fascist we have now, because you agree with his idiocy?

I have supported any president who is in office. Might not agree with all their policies but I don't spew out made up shit because my FNE (fav network everrrr) feeds me a can of Campbell Soup Cream of Chunky Soup of Lies.

Fascist, racist, russian spy, rapist, nazi, bigot, homophobe and a host of other names you guys have called him. You should hear yourselves,,, really quite comical. Now arrogant Ima gonna have to agree with ya on.,, dude is that... but then most of our elected officials are. Obama was quite arrogant in his own right... and can somebody please tell him that he's not president anymore. Thanks.