politics thread

[skinsdad62]

While Mitt Romney sat on the board and was one of the directors of Marriott, his company actually opened SIX hotels in Moscow. Do you see creepy Schiff or Nadler investigating him for that? Donald Trump only thought about it and witch hunts are launched.

 

[skinsdad62]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1VbBW3X4AIkvUC?format=jpg&name=large

Here, according to LBJ’s own black chauffeur, is how thIs progressive Democratic icon treated blacks. This was AFTER he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Do left-wing historians still want to contend LBJ had long given up the racism of his early career?

Some on this board tried to sell me on the big switch lie

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

And the MSM lies too starting with Covington kids as the latest . Gorsuch being another. The whole Ferguson narrative , the whole trump fiasco the HRC fiasco. ,Benghazi and the hits just keep coming . Oh love the CNN giving HRC debate. Questions thing .85 % of the MSM donated to democratic campaigns . It controls tv and the print news as well as the internet

Oh I totally get how the MSM distorts or reports untruthful stories. What I am trying to get you to understand is your sources are equally untruthful at times. There is also a report that Trump was given a Megan Kelly question ahead of time during the debates as well but you don't want to talk about that. I'm just saying both sides are to blame equally.

 

[skinsdad62]

Oh I totally get how the MSM distorts or reports untruthful stories. What I am trying to get you to understand is your sources are equally untruthful at times. There is also a report that Trump was given a Megan Kelly question ahead of time during the debates as well but you don't want to talk about that. I'm just saying both sides are to blame equally.

Never happened . Brazile outright got caught and no my sources aren’t untruthful , news outlets aren’t my sources

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Never happened . Brazile outright got caught and no my sources aren’t untruthful , news outlets aren’t my sources

So you really believe all your sources are 100% truthful and not spinning with a conservative bias?

Dear Lord......

 

[skinsdad62]

So you really believe all your sources are 100% truthful and not spinning with a conservative bias?

Dear Lord......

I. Said I don’t use news sources I will say it again news sources oh wait news outlets ,news outlets that can’t be verified

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I. Said I don’t use news sources I will say it again news sources oh wait news outlets ,news outlets that can’t be verified

You are getting your info from some sources. Call them what you like they are still no doubt conservative sources with a right bias. I have yet to find a totally unbiased source and I've asked plenty of folks. If you have some I'd love to take a look.

 

[Toadman005]

Alternative media >>>>>>> MSM

 

[skinsdad62]

Look the MSM left this out !

 

[skinsdad62]

You are getting your info from some sources. Call them what you like they are still no doubt conservative sources with a right bias. I have yet to find a totally unbiased source and I've asked plenty of folks. If you have some I'd love to take a look.

I post things DGF that can be verified independtly . For instances an arrest can be verified , court documents can be verified , IG reports can be verified congressional testimony can be verified , govt stats can be verified . Film clips of it coming out of said persons mouth can be verified .

I don’t “rush to judgement “ on people when they are paid to do so , such as the parade of women who were “assaulted “ by Trump only to disappeear after being found out they were being paid for by democratic donors. Or the Gorsuch liars with go fund me accounts with implausible stories and dem senators who knew about said story but say on it to get the so called best effect

 

[skinsdad62]

AOC claims Reagan’s economy “screw(ed) over working class Americans": inflation rate when Reagan took office 12.5%. 3yrs later, down to 3.2%. GDP growth in 1980 was negative-0.3%. By 1984, 7.2%. Reagan’s 1st yr, unemployment 8.5%. His last yr, 5.3%. AOC needs more school !!!

 

[gkekoa]

So it's a fact that Democrats hate America as Rush claims?

Yeah we aren't the group wearing "I'd Rather Be Russian Than a Republican" tee shirts.

If democrats like America, why do they want to let every body from every nation in.

If democrats love America, why do they try to change it with full blown socialism?

If democrats love America, why do they continually say we need to be more like Europe, who wouldn’t exist without...the US?

 

[gkekoa]

Holy shit I can't believe you just wrote this. I hear right wing radio hosts say things like "Democrats hate America" or "Obama hates white peope" all day long. It's as if you are totally unaware that PundiFact rated Fox News reporting at sixty percent of their their work as “Mostly False,” “False,” or “Pants on Fire.” FOX's file: | PunditFact It's as if you have totally forgotten how Fox used a pic of Eagles players praying pre-game and reported it as a pretest kneel down during the anthem.

Come on Dad, the fact that you actually believe it's only the MSM who is lying tells the world how biased and skewed your views are on the matter. Your sources are equally biased and untruthful at times as well. So why are your sources any more accurate than mine? They aren't.

There is reason to believe democrats hate America as is. We can back it up with facts. There is reason to believe Obama hates white people because we can back it up with facts.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

If democrats like America, why do they want to let every body from every nation in.

If democrats love America, why do they try to change it with full blown socialism?

If democrats love America, why do they continually say we need to be more like Europe, who wouldn’t exist without...the US?

It would help if you actually had out position correct. No most Democrats do not want every body from every nation in, this is a false narrative spread by the right. We believe in border.security, just.don't believe a wall is the answer.we also believe illegals are human beings.and should.be treated as.such

 

[skinsdad62]

It would help if you actually had out position correct. No most Democrats do not want every body from every nation in, this is a false narrative spread by the right. We believe in border.security, just.don't believe a wall is the answer.we also believe illegals are human beings.and should.be treated as.such

What is your solution for border security ?

 

[Sharkinva]

What is your solution for border security ?

MOre points of entry. Adequate staffing at ALL points of entry. Adequate documentation for who is coming in.

This means,,

1 Who
2. Why they are coming in
3. Where will they be staying and who is sponsoring them to come into the country

 

[skinsdad62]

MOre points of entry. Adequate staffing at ALL points of entry. Adequate documentation for who is coming in.

This means,,

1 Who
2. Why they are coming in
3. Where will they be staying and who is sponsoring them to come into the country

And that stops some one from simply walking though non points of entry how ?

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

What is your solution for border security ?

According to the Customs and Border Securitythe vast majority of drugs and illegals come across through the checkpoints, the first step is to improve that situation. Then for the entire border the use of technology, drones, surveillance and of course we need more officers. A whole lot more. And that will cost a fraction of the cost of the wall.

A 2,000 wall will not stop the problem until we improve the check points and improve our surveillance. No all that wall will do is wall off the entire Rio Grande to America and give it to Mexico. Many people in Texas rely on that river to maintain their livelihood. Ranchers, farmers, fishing guides etc not to mention the recreational use of that river that will be simply walled off.

On top of that walling off our boarders is not what this country stands for. It sends a terrible message although I agree with it's intent. Again I am not for open borders and few libs are.

 

[gkekoa]

It would help if you actually had out position correct. No most Democrats do not want every body from every nation in, this is a false narrative spread by the right. We believe in border.security, just.don't believe a wall is the answer.we also believe illegals are human beings.and should.be treated as.such

1- How is it false? You don’t want the people who have come across illegally to be forced to leave. You don’t want to actually prevent people who make any claim, without proof, that they are actual refugees. Name me a country south of the border, other than Venezuela, who is in a state of war. Why do people from countries seeking asylum not to to the next country in the line for asylum, instead of making the trek through several countries, if the purpose is to flee their own country.

2- Can you show where anybody doesn’t believe illegals are human? Let me ask you this, how are these people being treated as non-human?

3- If more than 50% of the women who make this trip are raped, wouldn’t it be more humane for them to stay in their home country or just go next door?

4- The wall isn’t the solution. It is part of a solution. We obviously can’t have border patrol along the entire southern border, so let me ask this. Having a large obstruction would slow the progress of people trying to cross the border, thus allowing border patrol to stop more people entering illegally, correct? You claim the expense is outrageous for a wall. Let call the expense of the wall ten billion over ten years for easy math. That includes building and upkeep. You say we need more agents, a lot more. Let’s say without a wall, we need ten thousand but with a wall, we need 5,000. We save 250million by needing half the workforce but wait, we also don’t pay their insurance and medical which is likely another 200million. From there, we have fewer border crossing which is less of a strain on our legal system and we save money in the courts. We save money for their basic expenses. The list of savings is never ending.

 

[skinsdad62]

According to the Customs and Border Securitythe vast majority of drugs and illegals come across through the checkpoints, the first step is to improve that situation. Then for the entire border the use of technology, drones, surveillance and of course we need more officers. A whole lot more. And that will cost a fraction of the cost of the wall.

A 2,000 wall will not stop the problem until we improve the check points and improve our surveillance. No all that wall will do is wall off the entire Rio Grande to America and give it to Mexico. Many people in Texas rely on that river to maintain their livelihood. Ranchers, farmers, fishing guides etc not to mention the recreational use of that river that will be simply walled off.

On top of that walling off our boarders is not what this country stands for. It sends a terrible message although I agree with it's intent. Again I am not for open borders and few libs are.

Show me one drone that stops anyone from walking across physically ? A wall is PART of a security system not the entirety as the left stupidly thinks

The truth is Democrat’s want illegals to vote as their vote in Congress proves . They want illegals and foreigners to cancel out American citizens votes .

I haven’t seen any plan that walls off the rio grande .

What TECHNOLOGY are you talking about ? Other then cameras and drones which you mentioned but don’t work .

I have posted numerous videos showing people and drugs and human trafficking occurring at nonpoints of entry by the same cameras and drones you say will stop it .

It’s a damn liberal talking points myth by the same Democrats who supported that wall until you know who started to actually do it and I have posted numerous times them saying it

I have lived on the border , good walls work .