politics thread

[Stymietee]

You don’t need humanization of a deity to have a sin. Sin existed before Christ.

God doesn’t have to create evil for evil to exist. Evil is an idea or an action of a person. We have free-will.

Marriage isn’t a sin because you don’t need government to be married. Marriage is a Holy covenant before God...thus marriage is between a man, woman, and God.

1. You don’t need humanization of a deity to have a sin. Sin existed before Christ.

Didn't God create everything?

2. God doesn’t have to create evil for evil to exist. Evil is an idea or an action of a person. We have free-will.

Didn't God create everything?

3. Marriage isn’t a sin because you don’t need government to be married. Marriage is a Holy covenant before God...thus marriage is between a man, woman, and God.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, a Thrupple!! and it turns out a very dangerous one in terms of supporting a child that isn't yours. Most people will soon realize that, there's just no way top prove that the third person in this arrangement impregnated your wife. Don't play, according to the psychotic retelling, it happened to Mary! Holy my ass, unless you want to spell check, Hoely! Even then they just might be of another faith.​

 

[gkekoa]

Total nonsense!!

You believe in "GOD" yet you now claim that it was a mistake on his/her/its part to have made the plants AND a curiosity in his own creation that compels them to wonder..."Heyyy I wonder what it would be like if we smoked this!""

As for the border wall and crime, again total nonsense! This country spends billions...er, TRILLIONS in its attempts to get other countries to respect human dignity, human rights and so forth, and yet the safest way to enforce illegal crossing of the border is in fact, by using our considerable influence in the southern regions of this hemisphere to be and do better. If our national security is at stake, them say so and mean it by either threatening to use military force, or actually using it when all other measures are exhausted. A wall (that already exists) is akin to putting a band aid on a river.

How can my opinion be total nonsense? I believe recreational drugs are bad. I can back up my opinion. Somehow that is total nonsense?

Did I say the creation of weed was a mistake? I said the use of a recreational drug was bad. You are smarter than this Sty.

Again, you can’t claim total nonsense on the definitions of words. Whether or not you believe the wall is a good idea, that can be debated. We already give substantial influence, money, south of the border. We do this to keep as many people from fleeing as possible. The wall will be yet another deterrent. If I had my way, I would treat it militarily with land mines south of it and shoot people trying to cross over it as they are, by definition, invading the country.

 

[Stymietee]

I have a question...

How is it possible for Christians to have created a religion, humanized their God, can definitively tell you what that God is thinking and wants from them, claim that this same God created EVERYTHING, and deny that he/she/it created EVERYTHING except what they deem bad, and seemingly have NO sense of humor?

 

[gkekoa]

So IM just going to touch on this....

By this assertion, if some one is Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist or any other faith or no faith at all, by this assertion their "Marriage" isnt really a marriage because they dont embrace God in the way you consider valid??

Just checking to see if this is the line of thinking you are rolling with here.

Do you have to believe in God to enter a Holy covenant before God? That is an interesting question. I am not sure my opinion on this matters, but I suppose the covenant can be Holy. I know that gay marriage cannot be Holy, because the act of homosexuality is an abomination in the sight of God.

 

[gkekoa]

1. You don’t need humanization of a deity to have a sin. Sin existed before Christ.

Didn't God create everything?

2. God doesn’t have to create evil for evil to exist. Evil is an idea or an action of a person. We have free-will.

Didn't God create everything?

3. Marriage isn’t a sin because you don’t need government to be married. Marriage is a Holy covenant before God...thus marriage is between a man, woman, and God.​

Like I said, a Thrupple!! and it turns out a very dangerous one in terms of supporting a child that isn't yours. Most people will soon realize that, there's just no way top prove that the third person in this arrangement impregnated your wife. Don't play, according to the psychotic retelling, it happened to Mary! Holy my ass, unless you want to spell check, Hoely! Even then they just might be of another faith.​

[/QUOTE]

1- You would have to define everything. Do I believe God created your thoughts? No.

2- According to answer one, no.

3- Makes no sense.

 

[Stymietee]

How can my opinion be total nonsense? I believe recreational drugs are bad. I can back up my opinion. Somehow that is total nonsense?

Did I say the creation of weed was a mistake? I said the use of a recreational drug was bad. You are smarter than this Sty.

Again, you can’t claim total nonsense on the definitions of words. Whether or not you believe the wall is a good idea, that can be debated. We already give substantial influence, money, south of the border. We do this to keep as many people from fleeing as possible. The wall will be yet another deterrent. If I had my way, I would treat it militarily with land mines south of it and shoot people trying to cross over it as they are, by definition, invading the country.

I gave full props for your opinion, what you might have missed is that I didn't take you to task for yours. Rather than do that, I offered my own as a contrast. Benefit of doubt, you might have missed this. Oh well, we move on.

No you did not say that creation of weed was a mistake, but you did invoke God and by every definition this God created everything, including free will. You know, that thing that you claim that man uses to enjoy/ use/ and supposedly misuse that other thing that this same God created.

(Supposedly in this case..."How do you know that its misuse is not in "God's" plan?)

Never said anything about defining a wall, however I did notice that my suggestions about getting serious about the southern border has now been incorporated in your response. Nice! Remember this suggestion is a last resort against a true relationship between North, central and South America. Has this ever been tried? I seriously doubt it! Hell, we're still talking about walls!

 

[Stymietee]

Do you have to believe in God to enter a Holy covenant before God? That is an interesting question. I am not sure my opinion on this matters, but I suppose the covenant can be Holy. I know that gay marriage cannot be Holy, because the act of homosexuality is an abomination in the sight of God.

Neva mind!

 

[Stymietee]

Like I said, a Thrupple!! and it turns out a very dangerous one in terms of supporting a child that isn't yours. Most people will soon realize that, there's just no way top prove that the third person in this arrangement impregnated your wife. Don't play, according to the psychotic retelling, it happened to Mary! Holy my ass, unless you want to spell check, Hoely! Even then they just might be of another faith.​

1- You would have to define everything. Do I believe God created your thoughts? No.

2- According to answer one, no.

3- Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

1. Might be easier to please tell what "God" didn't create, ought to be good for a laugh or two. Well we know heaven and earth, the sun, the moon, the stars, and here on earth, water, the land, the plants and animals, MAN ( I used caps because this is important) in his own image., A voice, the ability to think, and reason, therefore evil, ( but that was created twice, the whole devil thing you know) and this whole game where the souls of his creations will have to eventually face revelations in which a great battle with that evildoer that he/she/ it also created and ultimately will defeat will take place, just to prove how much he/she/it loves them. We good so far?

2. Yeah, OK!

3. ...And I know why!! (so do you but you'll never admit it)

 

[skinsdad62]

His attorney general, who by every measure has not gone rogue, believes and has taken steps to increase the prison population and police powers.

So which is it, what he (Trump) spits out of his mouth or what his attorney general is ACTUALLY doing, presumably with his blessing?

he said what he said on tape . what his attorney general does is what he does and i imagine once this muellar BS investigation is done he will replace him

 

[skinsdad62]

First where DID I equate feeding the base, with just being racist.

Trumps base tends to be ultra conservatives, some of them do happen to be racist. But one thing Ultra conservatives do tend to agree on is recreational drug of any kind is bad and makes one less of a person. Or would you disagree with this?

Secondly, I dont know how many times i have heard the line that if you are not for a border wall you are a fan of open borders and crime. SO look in the mirror with all this painting with a broad brush talk.

now "ultra" conservatives are his base , please

and yes if you arent for the wall you are for open borders . because along with that comes e verify ending chain migration and the rest . not having that and the system we have is essentually open borders . 98% of all border crosser get through . ones that are caught and said to show up for a court date

 

[Sharkinva]

Do you have to believe in God to enter a Holy covenant before God? That is an interesting question. I am not sure my opinion on this matters, but I suppose the covenant can be Holy. I know that gay marriage cannot be Holy, because the act of homosexuality is an abomination in the sight of God.

So I guess what Im asking then is do you think for a marriage to be a marriage, it needs to be as you put it HOLY??

 

[skinsdad62]

I know this will be dismissed as fake news because it is from a VOX link, but eve if it is only half right, the fact that this study found that 11M Americans agree with alt-right principles, puts the minimalization that this is just a tiny fractional movement to shame.


Study: 11 million white Americans think like the alt-right


In the runup to the 2018 Unite the Right rally in Washington, DC, this Sunday — the sequel to last year’s infamous Charlottesville, Virginia, tiki torch demonstration — it’s vitally important to try to figure out just how significant the movement known as the alt-right is as an American political force. If people like white nationalist Richard Spencer are marginal cranks, whose ideas have no resonance with a wider audience, the best thing to do might be to ignore them.

But new research from the University of Alabama’s George Hawley, published by UVA’s Institute for Family Studies, suggests this isn’t the case. According to Hawley, a political scientist who specializes in demography and the far right, roughly 5.64 percent of America’s 198 million non-Hispanic whites have beliefs consistent with the alt-right’s worldview. Whether or not they would describe themselves as alt-right, Hawley argues, they share the movement’s belief in a politics that promotes white interests above those of other racial groups.

If Hawley is right, then the alt-right’s constituency isn’t a tiny fringe. It’s about 11 million Americans.

who is defining alt right shark ? a leftist ? come on . what is alt right ?

 

[Sharkinva]

now "ultra" conservatives are his base , please

and yes if you arent for the wall you are for open borders . because along with that comes e verify ending chain migration and the rest . not having that and the system we have is essentually open borders . 98% of all border crosser get through . ones that are caught and said to show up for a court date

Look dude.. I have seen you and a few other throwing the same lines as the actual admitted racists like Richard Spencer when it comes to things like the wall, immigration and preserving our "culture" as well as how people need to be "articulate". Does that make you a racist outright? Well maybe not.

But just as you assume that some one who doesnt want to waste money on a wall to give you some physical representation of security does not make one a fan of open borders.... running with the white nationalist playbook makes you closer to them than I would ever care to be.

By the way, until about two years ago I gave zero fucks about a border wall or open borders. But I have been convinced.. the more the merrier, fuck a border wall.

 

[skinsdad62]

Look dude.. I have seen you and a few other throwing the same lines as the actual admitted racists like Richard Spencer when it comes to things like the wall, immigration and preserving our "culture" as well as how people need to be "articulate". Does that make you a racist outright? Well maybe not.

But just as you assume that some one who doesnt want to waste money on a wall to give you some physical representation of security does not make one a fan of open borders.... running with the white nationalist playbook makes you closer to them than I would ever care to be.

By the way, until about two years ago I gave zero fucks about a border wall or open borders. But I have been convinced.. the more the merrier, fuck a border wall.

didnt you just say above you were for open borders ? the wall will work doesnt in israel

 

[Sharkinva]

who is defining alt right shark ? a leftist ? come on . what is alt right ?

Well here is the Dictionary definition, hope this helps


Definition of ALT-RIGHT

Definition of alt-right
: a right-wing, primarily online political movement or grouping based in the U.S. whose members reject mainstream conservative politics and espouse extremist beliefs and policies typically centered on ideas of white nationalism

• Welcome to the alt-right. The label blends together straight-up white supremacists, nationalists who think conservatives have sold out to globalization, and nativists who fear immigration will spur civil disarray.
• —Dylan Matthews

• Rather than concede the moral high ground to the left, the alt right turns the left's moralism on its head and makes it a badge of honor to be called "racist," "homophobic," and "sexist."
• —Benjamin Welton

• Regardless of who triumphs at the ballot box, the biggest winner of this presidential election may be the alt-right: a sprawling coalition of reactionary conservatives who have lobbied to make the United States more "traditional," more "populist" and more white.
• —Jonathon Morgan

—often used before another noun

• an alt-right manifesto

• Secularism is indeed correlated with greater tolerance of gay marriage and pot legalization. But it's also making America's partisan clashes more brutal. And it has contributed to the rise of … the so-called alt-right movement, whose members see themselves as proponents of white nationalism.
• —Peter Beinart

 

[Sharkinva]

didnt you just say above you were for open borders ? the wall will work doesnt in israel

I just said in the post you quoted.. Im now fully 100000000% for OPEN BORDERS. The CULTURE in the US needs some new blood.

 

[skinsdad62]

Look dude.. I have seen you and a few other throwing the same lines as the actual admitted racists like Richard Spencer when it comes to things like the wall, immigration and preserving our "culture" as well as how people need to be "articulate". Does that make you a racist outright? Well maybe not.

But just as you assume that some one who doesnt want to waste money on a wall to give you some physical representation of security does not make one a fan of open borders.... running with the white nationalist playbook makes you closer to them than I would ever care to be.

By the way, until about two years ago I gave zero fucks about a border wall or open borders. But I have been convinced.. the more the merrier, fuck a border wall.

and louis farakhan words have been used for people who support your point of view . so what ? that doesnt mean i get to lump you all as alt left anarchist socialists because of a few nut jobs

hell margaret sanger , whom hillary admired , thought all blacks should be killed like weeds hence her support of abortion and eugenics , a typical left wing position of pro choice . does that make all people who support pro choice racists ? . and do pro choice people run the democratic party solely ?

 

[skinsdad62]

Well here is the Dictionary definition, hope this helps


Definition of ALT-RIGHT

Definition of alt-right
: a right-wing, primarily online political movement or grouping based in the U.S. whose members reject mainstream conservative politics and espouse extremist beliefs and policies typically centered on ideas of white nationalism

• Welcome to the alt-right. The label blends together straight-up white supremacists, nationalists who think conservatives have sold out to globalization, and nativists who fear immigration will spur civil disarray.
• —Dylan Matthews

• Rather than concede the moral high ground to the left, the alt right turns the left's moralism on its head and makes it a badge of honor to be called "racist," "homophobic," and "sexist."
• —Benjamin Welton

• Regardless of who triumphs at the ballot box, the biggest winner of this presidential election may be the alt-right: a sprawling coalition of reactionary conservatives who have lobbied to make the United States more "traditional," more "populist" and more white.
• —Jonathon Morgan

—often used before another noun

• an alt-right manifesto

• Secularism is indeed correlated with greater tolerance of gay marriage and pot legalization. But it's also making America's partisan clashes more brutal. And it has contributed to the rise of … the so-called alt-right movement, whose members see themselves as proponents of white nationalism.
• —Peter Beinart

well there isnt any where near 11 mil who think anywhere near that and arent those leftist making the definition

and dont thine leftist forget antifa in every clash we have had they have been at the center of it trying to do violence riots all over the country

 

[skinsdad62]

I just said in the post you quoted.. Im now fully 100000000% for OPEN BORDERS. The CULTURE in the US needs some new blood.

we do have new blood . 14% of the US population is made up of legal immigrants . an all time high

 

[Stymietee]

he said what he said on tape . what his attorney general does is what he does and i imagine once this muellar BS investigation is done he will replace him

See, that's the thing, actions have always spoken louder than words. Trump can say whatever he wants, but when he doesn't stop his Attorney General from doing those things that directly counters that which was spoken, the words become meaningless. Does it really matter whether it was taped or not?

Yep!, it's BS alright, Manafort just pleaded guilty to "conspiracy against the United States" among other charges. The fuckin' nerve, why is this guy playing with us? Manafort just ought to be investigated for cooperating with a BS Mueller probe, instead of playing along and trying to get us to believe that this BS is really not Bullshit!

Personally, I am incensed that Manafort, Cohen, Papadopoulos, Flynn, Gates, Pinedo, Van der Zwaan, et.al are all taking this joke investigation too far. They all need to stop playin' with us! Trump just ought to do what he's threatened to do and step in, make it all go away by conducting the investigation himself. Yeah! that'll work!