Philly trades Zach Ertz

[RememberTheKoy]

Jimmy G will prevent that from happening.

LA, Arizona, and Seattle will all make the playoffs before SF does.

Seattle? They are 2-3 and Russell Wilson is out 6-8 weeks. Here are their next 6-8 weeks:

W6 @Steelers
W7 Saints
W8 Jaguars
W9 BYE
W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers


Those are the 7 games they might have to play without Wilson. Expectation is that they play the first 5 at least of those without Wilson. They should still beat the Jaguars with Geno but the rest? I don't know. And if he misses all 7 of those games then I'm not sure the Seahawks with Geno are going into Washington and winning that game but that's the other one expect the Jaguars game that they will have a decent chance of winning without Russell Wilson.

That 6-8 week stretch right there likely moves the Seahawks out of contention for that 7th seed. Even when Wilson comes back after that stretch there will still be likely losses playing @Rams in week 15 and @Cardinals in week 18.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Seattle? They are 2-3 and Russell Wilson is out 6-8 weeks. Here are their next 6-8 weeks:

W6 @Steelers
W7 Saints
W8 Jaguars
W9 BYE
W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers


Those are the 7 games they might have to play without Wilson. Expectation is that they play the first 5 at least of those without Wilson. They should still beat the Jaguars with Geno but the rest? I don't know. And if he misses all 7 of those games then I'm not sure the Seahawks with Geno are going into Washington and winning that game but that's the other one expect the Jaguars game that they will have a decent chance of winning without Russell Wilson.

That 6-8 week stretch right there likely moves the Seahawks out of contention for that 7th seed. Even when Wilson comes back after that stretch there will still be likely losses playing @Rams in week 15 and @Cardinals in week 18.

He is for sure out 4 weeks....POSSIBLY 6-8.

That bye is key.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

He is for sure out 4 weeks....POSSIBLY 6-8.

Even if we say he misses best case scenario 4 weeks he comes back having to run through that stretch of

W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers


Seattle might be in the running for the 7th seed but they won't be running away to get that 5th seed. This isn't a 10+ win team after Wilson going down.

 

[dbldwn711]

Goedert unlike Ertz has ability after the catch and often makes plays after the catch whereas that is rare for Ertz to do anything after the catch.

You sure do pump up a guy who has only 15 catches but then again that’s what you do.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Even if we say he misses best case scenario 4 weeks he comes back having to run through that stretch of

W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers


Seattle might be in the running for the 7th seed but they won't be running away to get that 5th seed. This isn't a 10+ win team after Wilson going down.

Geno is a vet and probably better than Hurts.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

You sure do pump up a guy who has only 15 catches but then again that’s what you do.

Says the guy pumping the TE with worse numbers.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Geno is a vet and probably better than Hurts.

Nothing in Geno Smith's career suggests he is better than Hurts.


How many of the following games do you see Geno Smith winning if he has to start them all?

W6 @Steelers
W7 Saints
W8 Jaguars
W9 BYE
W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers

 

[DJ Fieri]

Nothing in Geno Smith's career suggests he is better than Hurts.


How many of the following games do you see Geno Smith winning if he has to start them all?

W6 @Steelers
W7 Saints
W8 Jaguars
W9 BYE
W10 @Packers
W11 Cardinals
W12 @Redskins
W13 49ers

Hurts was 12 of 26 for 115 yards, 1 TD and an INT. 55.8 Passer Rating.

Geno Smith's last game? He was 10 of 17 for 131 yards, 1 TD and an INT. 78.3 PR. He also didn't play the entire game like Hurts did.

 

[dbldwn711]

Says the guy pumping the TE with worse numbers.

Again, you miss the concept of who the defense is paying attention to and I’m not “pumping him up”. I’m saying He’s better than goedert.

 

[broncosmitty]

Every GM in the NFL would rather have Goedert than Ertz.


And the Lions and Jags have one less loss than the Eagles right now.

 

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But who is the team or teams that you think could finish better than 6-6 the rest of the way out to get that 7th seed?

Right now there are 8 teams with winning records.....that will change.

I guarantee it.

NFC teams have to play 3 of their 5 inter-conference games on the road so potentially the NFC could have a net losing record. However the NFC is currently 15-9 in inter-conference match-ups so the NFC is likely to finish up even or slightly ahead. That, with a 17 game season, could well result in 8 out of teams finishing with a 9-8 or better record. Additionally some of the teams currently on the fringe of the playoffs, (Bears & 49ers), have played with struggling rookie QBs. Those QBs could improve or the teams could improve without them. Furthermore the 2-3 Vikings have a positive points differential and 2 of their losses are I-C games, (which helps their tie-breaker situation). I would say all 10 of those teams had a better shot of making the playoffs than the Eagles, and frankly the WFT is a coin-flip to finish above or below the Eagles.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

NFC teams have to play 3 of their 5 inter-conference games on the road so potentially the NFC could have a net losing record. However the NFC is currently 15-9 in inter-conference match-ups so the NFC is likely to finish up even or slightly ahead. That, with a 17 game season, could well result in 8 out of teams finishing with a 9-8 or better record. Additionally some of the teams currently on the fringe of the playoffs, (Bears & 49ers), have played with struggling rookie QBs. Those QBs could improve or the teams could improve without them. Furthermore the 2-3 Vikings have a positive points differential and 2 of their losses are I-C games, (which helps their tie-breaker situation). I would say all 10 of those teams had a better shot of making the playoffs than the Eagles, and frankly the WFT is a coin-flip to finish above or below the Eagles.

Vikings are 2-3 and have a pretty tough schedule coming up.

@ Carolina Panthers
7 Bye Week
8 Sun October 31 8:20PM ET preview Dallas Cowboys
9 Sun November 7 1:00PM ET preview @ Baltimore Ravens
10 Sun November 14 4:05PM ET preview @ Los Angeles Chargers
11 Sun November 21 1:00PM ET preview Green Bay Packers
12 Sun November 28 4:25PM ET preview @ San Francisco 49ers
13 Sun December 5 1:00PM ET preview @ Detroit Lions
14 Thu December 9 8:20PM ET preview Pittsburgh Steelers
15 Mon December 20 8:15PM ET preview @ Chicago Bears
16 Sun December 26 1:00PM ET preview Los Angeles Rams
17 Sun January 2 8:20PM ET preview @ Green Bay Packers
18 Sun January 9 1:00PM ET preview Chicago Bears



Besides the Bears twice and the Lions it's tough sledding. Panthers on Sunday are winnable for them but that's another team that could then be in that 7th seed shuffle at around 9 wins. Bears likewise have a tough remaining schedule.


49ers end up with the 6th seed I think.

Washington who knows and Eagles and them play twice in the final month of the season so it like will get determined then. But Washington isn't going to win more than 9 games at most.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Hurts was 12 of 26 for 115 yards, 1 TD and an INT. 55.8 Passer Rating.

Geno Smith's last game? He was 10 of 17 for 131 yards, 1 TD and an INT. 78.3 PR. He also didn't play the entire game like Hurts did.

Cool, let's see how Geno Smith does against a defense that is gameplanning for Geno Smith and history shows it's very easy for defenses to get terrible play from him.


Hurts first 6 games this season is already better than any season Geno Smith ever had in his career.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

Again, you miss the concept of who the defense is paying attention to and I’m not “pumping him up”. I’m saying He’s better than goedert.

They haven't played on the field together that much this season.

What kind of nonsensical thing is it to claim that defenses are paying attention to Ertz when he is on the field but when Goedert is on the field they aren't paying attention to him and not bothering to cover him or anything?



Goedert is going to get a huge contract for a TE either from the Eagles or another team if they don't franchise tag him before signing him to a new deal. Meanwhile the Eagles in all the time since Ertz has been on the trade block when last season ended was a 5th round pick and throw away player picked in the 5th round pick that hasn't played at all this year. Ertz will not be looking at as big of a contract from any team. That shows you who the NFL views as the better TE of the two.

 

[fastforward]

Vikings are 2-3 and have a pretty tough schedule coming up.

@ Carolina Panthers
7 Bye Week
8 Sun October 31 8:20PM ET preview Dallas Cowboys
9 Sun November 7 1:00PM ET preview @ Baltimore Ravens
10 Sun November 14 4:05PM ET preview @ Los Angeles Chargers
11 Sun November 21 1:00PM ET preview Green Bay Packers
12 Sun November 28 4:25PM ET preview @ San Francisco 49ers
13 Sun December 5 1:00PM ET preview @ Detroit Lions
14 Thu December 9 8:20PM ET preview Pittsburgh Steelers
15 Mon December 20 8:15PM ET preview @ Chicago Bears
16 Sun December 26 1:00PM ET preview Los Angeles Rams
17 Sun January 2 8:20PM ET preview @ Green Bay Packers
18 Sun January 9 1:00PM ET preview Chicago Bears



Besides the Bears twice and the Lions it's tough sledding. Panthers on Sunday are winnable for them but that's another team that could then be in that 7th seed shuffle at around 9 wins. Bears likewise have a tough remaining schedule.


49ers end up with the 6th seed I think.

Washington who knows and Eagles and them play twice in the final month of the season so it like will get determined then. But Washington isn't going to win more than 9 games at most.

On the flip-side if they're not beating the Panthers, 49ers, & Bears(2) then those teams are gaining ground in the playoff race. If they don't win 2 or 3 of those games it hurts the Eagles chances. The Vikings will like their chances against the Lions and Steelers and they'll expect NOT to be swept by the Packers. You need the Vikings to finish with 7 or 8 wins.

 

[RememberTheKoy]

On the flip-side if they're not beating the Panthers, 49ers, & Bears(2) then those teams are gaining ground in the playoff race. If they don't win 2 or 3 of those games it hurts the Eagles chances. The Vikings will like their chances against the Lions and Steelers and they'll expect NOT to be swept by the Packers. You need the Vikings to finish with 7 or 8 wins.

Losing to the Panthers doesn't hurt the Eagles chances of we view the Panthers as a 9 win team. The Eagles own the tie breaker over the Panthers.


As for the Vikings:

Dallas
@Ravens
@Chargers
Packers
@49ers
Steelers
Rams
@Packers

Those are games its more likely they lose than win. Then you have two games against the Bears as well. Even if the Vikings take care of business against the Panthers and then take 2 of the above games and split with the Bears then that leaves them at 8-9.


Vikings won't be running away with 10 wins at this point with that schedule. Maybe they will be in play for the 7th seed but it will likely come at 9 wins at most for them.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

funny how RTK is looking at best case scenario for the eagles, when they could just as easy go the rest of the season & win just 2 games.

 

[fastforward]

Losing to the Panthers doesn't hurt the Eagles chances of we view the Panthers as a 9 win team. The Eagles own the tie breaker over the Panthers.


As for the Vikings:

Dallas
@Ravens
@Chargers
Packers
@49ers
Steelers
Rams
@Packers

Those are games its more likely they lose than win. Then you have two games against the Bears as well. Even if the Vikings take care of business against the Panthers and then take 2 of the above games and split with the Bears then that leaves them at 8-9.


Vikings won't be running away with 10 wins at this point with that schedule. Maybe they will be in play for the 7th seed but it will likely come at 9 wins at most for them.

I've got some good news buddy. It's not too early to fill in your own personal playoff-machine and give us the benefit of your end-of-season predictions.

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[jarntt]

If they trade Fletcher Cox, then you know the tank is on. I could see it.

Cox's contract is another great example of how horrible Howie is at the cap. Even if he plays out his contract this year and next there is $15M in dead money after he is gone after the 22 season. Think about that. $15M in dead money for a guy whose contract expires. If they cut him or trade him now you have like $24M in dead money next year and only save a prorated portion of his $1M salary. So his $13M cap hit this year only goes down to like $12M. At least we no longer hear about Howie being a cap genius. He is the worst cap guy in the league.

 

[jarntt]

Why aren't you able to ask a simple question? If the Eagles finish the season 9-8 they will have the chance to make it in as the 7th seed. Looking around the NFC who are the the 6th and 7th seed wild card teams that you have with a 10-7 record or better? I think the 49ers will end up being the 6th seed at 10-7 but that 7th seed is likely going to a 9-8 team.

You are missing the point of being out of it. I don't know if anyone is saying that those teams will finish with more than 9 wins. Everyone is saying that the Eagles won't win 9 games. So it doesn't matter how many games those teams win.