Percy Harvin needs surgery

[HaroldSeattle]

If they couldn't run neither would be playing right now.

See that is what I'm talking about. Your going to end up eating your words. Both Wilson and Kaep would do fine without running, in fact Wilson is more of a scrambler then a runner, much like Tarkenton.

I always felt that RG3 and the Redskins relied more on the read option offense then either the 49ers or the Seahawks. So we'll see see who's right.

 

[JDM]

They relied on it because Shanahan is mentally retarded and should be fired, not because they needed to.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

No they relied on it because they needed to. Even the Redskins fans say RG3 made Alfred Morris a good running back and lets not try to pretend that the Redskins had a great receiving corp.

The read option is what made them go last year, in the future that could change with better receivers and such. RG3 certainly is able to succeed in a more classic offense given the weapons.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I want to add that both Wison and Kaep have all the tools they need to succeed in a classic offense, to say otherwise is ludicrous and shows a bias IMO. I think this is a opinion many none Seahawks or 49ers fans would agree with.

I guess we see how it works out once the season starts.

 

[JDM]

Succeed, maybe, be elite, no. This is all I ever claimed. That RG3 will be elite and that neither of them are remotely comparable.

 

[Stratman72]

Joe Montana didn't have a super strong arm. Just sayin' West coast offense does not require a QB to toss the ball 60 or more yards every pass play.

Wilson has a very good arm but he also has nice touch on the ball. Kaep has a cannon but he throws like he wants to break his receivers fingers every play.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Succeed, maybe, be elite, no. This is all I ever claimed. That RG3 will be elite and that neither of them are remotely comparable.

Can not wait for the season to begin so I can make you eat you words.

 

[SonnyCID]

I didn't get banned for posting on the hawks board, but keep thinking that.

I really dont care where you were trolling. I just know that you got banned for being a jerkoff.

 

[SonnyCID]

I can think of lots of QBs that have a "better arm" than Tom Brady. Doesn't make them better QBs.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I really dont care where you were trolling. I just know that you got banned for being a jerkoff.

Once your a hard core troll your a troll for life.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I recall a post on ESPN Seahawks board where various sites would encourage posters to come to their site and one of them asking Seahawks fans to come to their site added..."I want to be upfront with you guys, Juice is a member of our site" the dude is infamous over all the sports forum as a loser troll. I can just see a mod seeing Juice sign up to join the board saying OMG not the Juice, anyone but him!

You know even thou he got banned temp. he still went and trolled a board once he got reinstated. The dude is hopeless.

 

[Badger]

I'd like to say that I'm surprised that Pussy Harvin is going to miss time yet again, but I'm not.

It is unfortunate, as he can be a productive player when healthy.

A lot of people thought he was a risky signing because of his injury history.

 

[Ojb81]

Succeed, maybe, be elite, no. This is all I ever claimed. That RG3 will be elite and that neither of them are remotely comparable.

No, they aren't elite, not yet. Griffin isn't, either.

 

[RegentDenali]

I disagree. It's average. And that isn't enough to be an elite QB.

3 Questions for you:

How many passing TDs did Russell Wilson throw his rookie season?

How many passing TDs did Payton Manning throw his rookie season?

Who holds the rookie TD passing record?

 

[Rvnight18]

Who made it to the superbowl as a rookie last year?

 

[JDM]

3 Questions for you:

How many passing TDs did Russell Wilson throw his rookie season?

How many passing TDs did Payton Manning throw his rookie season?

Who holds the rookie TD passing record?

One question for you:

What does any one that have to do with what I said?

 

[JDM]

No, they aren't elite, not yet. Griffin isn't, either.

I specifically didn't say he was. I said he will be, and neither Kaepernick or Wilson have the tools to ever be near that level.

 

[RegentDenali]

One question for you:

What does any one that have to do with what I said?

Everything. You said Wilson doesn't have an arm.

How the hell do you throw 26 TDs in a NFL regular season without a polished, great arm?

 

[JDM]

Everything. You said Wilson doesn't have an arm.

How the hell do you throw 26 TDs in a NFL regular season without a polished, great arm?

No, I said his arm isn't good enough to ever be an elite QB. He's a smart kid, makes good choices, but there's not a lot of room for improvement there compared to most. You need the elite physical tools as well to ever be elite and he doesn't have them.

 

[SonnyCID]

Who made it to the superbowl as a rookie last year?

Who?