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Actually I could care less what you or anyone else thinks. I only post here for fun and to exchange opinions. You take yourself too seriously.
I could care less, yet I have this burning need to continue to tell everybody how little I care:rolleyes2:
 

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I keep trying to think of other major sports equivalent to the media love affair with Rodgers. Where guys are considered elite or maybe even the best ever but they have little to show got it.

In baseball I thought of Mike Trout but no one is picking the Angels to win it all every other year . Maybe Barry Bonds ?? In basketball I've got nothing . All their best dudes have multiple titles and other finals appearances
So you’re saying you don’t consider Rodgers elite? I knew you had bad eye sight but jeez dude. It’s fine if you don’t think he’s the best ever, but elite? So he’s just above average to you? Then what the hell does that make Matt Ryan? Chopped liver?
 
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So you’re saying you don’t consider Rodgers elite? I knew you had bad eye sight but jeez dude. It’s fine if you don’t think he’s the best ever, but elite? So he’s just above average to you? Then what the hell does that make Matt Ryan? Chopped liver?
Rodgers is elite for sure . He's just not even the best QB of his era
 

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If I'm looking at his YPA right, Rodgers hasn't really been 'MVP scariest man alive' since about 2014. I know he has flashed it a few times but to give him the benefit of the doubt right now seems way too premature.

I have them pegged for 8-10 wins and I think they only get to 10 if the Vikings implode.
 

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So that makes Matt Ryan about the 15th best QB of his era.
Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford , Joe Flacco , Andy Dalton, RW etc are in the late 2000s/ early 2010s era. Rodgers is in the same era as Rivers, Big Ben, Brady , Eli, Alex Smith early/mid 2000s.
 

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I'd say be could mean he's end best. At one time I had AR as #1 in current QB rankings but sorry Brady firmly has hold of that title.
3rd

Brady
Brees
Rodgers
Big Ben
Rivers

That's my too 5 of the 2000-2005 era .
 

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There's no practical debate left on who's number 1. If someone wants to try to argue Rodgers ahead of Brees in their era then that's ok by me even though id disagree . Personally I think Ben is closer to AR than AR is to Brees
Yes sir
 

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There's no practical debate left on who's number 1. If someone wants to try to argue Rodgers ahead of Brees in their era then that's ok by me even though id disagree . Personally I think Ben is closer to AR than AR is to Brees
That’s because you’ve always held some sort of weird grudge against Rodgers. Probably stemming from that 2011 ass raping in the playoffs. You’ve also had a pretty inflated view of Matt Ryan until his terrible play made it impossible for you to keep that schtick going.
 
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That’s because you’ve always held some sort of weird grudge against Rodgers. Probably stemming from that 2011 ass raping in the playoffs. You’ve also had a pretty inflated view of Matt Ryan until his terrible play made it impossible for you to keep that schtick going.
No grudge. I just don't think he's as great as the other 2. He's still the 3rd best active QB historically speaking although he's got a chance to end at 2 if he plays another 4-5 years at a high level . That said there are guys younger than him who will undoubtedly finish with better pure numbers so if those guys win a title or 2 they could jump Rodgers from a career perspective
 
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