Our Next QB

[anotheridiot]

Whoa... you think McNabb would have faired any better here? Ha... He would have been spit out of this city much sooner then he was in Philly.
No QB in Chicago. Might as well just run the wishbone and try to win with Defense...and passion and fire and heart.

Right, just like 1985. That was the side people that chose McCown over Cutler took, give us a quarterback that will not throw the game away.

 

[Wounded Bear]

Bears fans...




How about Johnny Finger for your 2015 2nd round pick?

Yep. Right after we try to work a deal for JaMarcus Russell.

 

[Tharvot]

Think of how well Manziel #2 Bears jerseys would sell.

 

[nebearsfan70]

Think of how well Manziel #2 Bears jerseys would sell.

Cutler for Manziel? No fucking way.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Joey, I see your point and I agree somewhat. One of the differences is that the Bears don't seem to have a coach that DEVELOPS a QB. Trestman is actually supposed to be that kind of coach. A lot of the QB's you listed have had above-average coaching staffs.

Your right they haven't had a coach that has developed a QB... I also firmly believe that fans/media/culture of the Chicago Bears wouldn't recognize a good QB if we had one. I'm talking about a fan base, that for years would cheer loudly when the offense was on the field.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

I don't anticipate any good coming out of this thread. And I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm also not trying to paint myself into Jay's corner.

But let's play GM and pretend that we can replace Cutler. Another NFL would have to make a trade offer. And you figure that it would have to be an NFL more desperate than the Bears for a QB. (They'd have to be willing to eat Jay's 7-year contract that he just signed this season.) So we can probably eliminate the Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Seahawks, Falcons, Lions, Chargers, Steelers, etc.

Would we be more content if we get a few draft picks and, say Kaepernick, Hoyer, Dalton, Palmer, or Fitzpatrick? Kaeps could be an interesting add. Maybe.

Maybe a trade won't get us there? So here's a partial list of the free agent QB for 2015:





UFA Matt Moore
UFA Mark Sanchez
UFA Jake Locker
UFA Michael Vick
UFA Matt Hasselbeck
UFA Christian Ponder
UFA Matt Flynn
UFA Blaine Gabbert
UFA Shaun Hill
UFA Jason Campbell
UFA Brian Hoyer
UFA Tarvaris Jackson
UFA Ryan Mallett
UFA Tyrod Taylor
UFA T.J. Yates
UFA Scott Tolzien
UFA Jimmy Clausen
UFA Dan Orlovsky
UFA Colt McCoy
UFA Luke McCown

Hmmm. Nothing jumps out at me here. What about 2015 draft prospects? Here's a list of the top 12 college prospects as of today:

1 Marcus Mariota - Oregon
3 Jameis Winston - Florida State
41 Brett Hundley - UCLA
60 Dak Prescott - Mississippi State
88 Bryce Petty - Baylor
115 Shane Carden - East Carolina
127 Garrett Grayson - Colorado State
153 Cody Fajardo - Nevada
170 Sean Mannion - Oregon State
188 Brandon Bridge - South Alabama
211 Bo Wallace - Ole Miss
238 Jake Waters - Kansas State

This may be a good time to mention that since Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos in 2006, there have been 109 QB drafted in the NFL after him. One hundred nine! And in 2014 alone, so far (as of 12/7) a total of 67 different QB have taken an NFL snap this season.

Given the options available, and the uncertainty of future prospects, I just don't see things getting any better if the Bears decide to move on from Jay.

Should have kept McCown, used the 17.5M/per to bolster the offensive line and a DB and then drafted. Cutler is a reincarnation of Jeff George, great arm but that's about it. He's moody, soft and a quitter.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Joe Namath, John Elway, are head cases imho, but they did just fine. Jameis is getting the job done and I'm fine with him unlearning behind Cutler.

I'm thinkin' Jameis is more of a black Ryan Leaf..........

 

[JoeyTourettes]

He's moody, soft and a quitter.

This is clearly not written by a person who follows Bears games. I think you're stuck in 2010.... Oh wait- yep that's the national media's take on Jay Cutler.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Yeah, I'm sure those stories aren't exaggerated. lol *Rolls eyes*… It's not like anyone would want to have a juicy story about a celebrity or anything. That NEEEEVERRR happens.

He comes off like a completely normal 20 year old kid. The problem is, more is expected of a future NFL QB.

I've watched him a lot, and I really like the way he plays. Say what you want about his attitude too, but all I see is a competitor, who actually behaves pretty humbly in the midst of games.

Some of the throws he makes during the course of games, make quite a few NFL QB's look like complete dogs. His ceiling is sky freaking high. I'll take a chance on him ANY DAY.

So I should take your word on his character as opposed to someone who lives A FEW MILES from Tallahassee and went to school there?!?!?!?

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

The problem is that he's not good… and he's a prima donna on top of it.

Bad passers with attitude problems don't make good NFL QB's, last I checked.

But yes, I would almost consider it just for the financial gain. But I still likely would not...

You're calling RGIII a prima donna?!?!?! That's funny. Wait I get it, you're Kristen Cavallari posting as a dude - it ALL makes sense now.

Cutler is the most 'entitled' QB in the league and his poutiness is only eclipsed by his ever-so-punchable jowly cheeks........

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

They don't? Maybe my memory is bad, but wasn't last year's SB winner a running QB? And...uhh...Kaepernick's playoff record is 4-2.

I don't particularly want a running QB, but I don't think your line of reasoning is why or really holds up all that well on this one.

I seem to remember Randall Cunningham being pretty darn good too........

 

[GNG]

I don't anticipate any good coming out of this thread. And I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm also not trying to paint myself into Jay's corner.

But let's play GM and pretend that we can replace Cutler. Another NFL would have to make a trade offer. And you figure that it would have to be an NFL more desperate than the Bears for a QB. (They'd have to be willing to eat Jay's 7-year contract that he just signed this season.) So we can probably eliminate the Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Seahawks, Falcons, Lions, Chargers, Steelers, etc.

Would we be more content if we get a few draft picks and, say Kaepernick, Hoyer, Dalton, Palmer, or Fitzpatrick? Kaeps could be an interesting add. Maybe.

Maybe a trade won't get us there? So here's a partial list of the free agent QB for 2015:

UFA Matt Moore
UFA Mark Sanchez
UFA Jake Locker
UFA Michael Vick
UFA Matt Hasselbeck
UFA Christian Ponder
UFA Matt Flynn
UFA Blaine Gabbert
UFA Shaun Hill
UFA Jason Campbell
UFA Brian Hoyer
UFA Tarvaris Jackson
UFA Ryan Mallett
UFA Tyrod Taylor
UFA T.J. Yates
UFA Scott Tolzien
UFA Jimmy Clausen
UFA Dan Orlovsky
UFA Colt McCoy
UFA Luke McCown

Hmmm. Nothing jumps out at me here. What about 2015 draft prospects? Here's a list of the top 12 college prospects as of today:

1 Marcus Mariota - Oregon
3 Jameis Winston - Florida State
41 Brett Hundley - UCLA
60 Dak Prescott - Mississippi State
88 Bryce Petty - Baylor
115 Shane Carden - East Carolina
127 Garrett Grayson - Colorado State
153 Cody Fajardo - Nevada
170 Sean Mannion - Oregon State
188 Brandon Bridge - South Alabama
211 Bo Wallace - Ole Miss
238 Jake Waters - Kansas State

This may be a good time to mention that since Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos in 2006, there have been 109 QB drafted in the NFL after him. One hundred nine! And in 2014 alone, so far (as of 12/7) a total of 67 different QB have taken an NFL snap this season.

Given the options available, and the uncertainty of future prospects, I just don't see things getting any better if the Bears decide to move on from Jay.

You left off Johnny Manziel.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Yeah… totally. What this team needs is the single worst passer in NFL history. That will totally solve all of this team's problems.

I've been living outside Chicago and watching the Bears since 79' - Tebow would be somewhere in the lower 40% of the QB over that timeframe.

 

[richig07]

I've been living outside Chicago and watching the Bears since 79' - Tebow would be somewhere in the lower 40% of the QB over that timeframe.

No… no he would not. Not as a passer.

Maybe he could run enough to make some plays, as opposed to guy like Jonathan Quinn. Who was utterly fucking hopeless. But, Tim Tebow was easily the single worst "passer" I've ever seen. And that is saying a lot as well.

 

[richig07]

Should have kept McCown, used the 17.5M/per to bolster the offensive line and a DB and then drafted. Cutler is a reincarnation of Jeff George, great arm but that's about it. He's moody, soft and a quitter.

Cutler is far from a quitter. One thing about him I can honestly say. Guy's actually endured a shit ton in his time here.

And McCown is a BAD QB who had a horse shoe ups his ass during a five week stint in which he went 2-3 against some of the easiest defensive competition this league has seen in the last decade. According to the records they broke for yards/points allowed.

 

[nomoreshoop]

I see other QBs running to the OC looking at polaroids, and discussing next plays, but Jay Cutler is straight to the bench to pout, chomp on his fingernails, etc.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

No… no he would not. Not as a passer.

Maybe he could run enough to make some plays, as opposed to guy like Jonathan Quinn. Who was utterly fucking hopeless. But, Tim Tebow was easily the single worst "passer" I've ever seen. And that is saying a lot as well.

I said "QB", I did not quantify his skills i.e. "passing" vs. "running", I was merely pointing out he'd garner the same results as 40% of prior Bears quarterbacks.

I saw Tebow dismantle the team that has the most Lombardi trophies in the playoffs. True, he did not perform that way on average but I surmise that all the bile spit at him for being openly Christian played into that. If in his development time he were to receive as much coddling and unconditional love from fans as Jay has with Chicago he would have performed significantly better than the numbers he put up.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say you're late 20's - early 30's in age. I say that not as a putdown but rather I remember when the Bears had THREE QBs AT ONE TIME as bad or worse than Tebow - that three-headed QB of futility was VinceEvans/Mike Phipps/Bob Avellini and they had WALTER in the backfield.....lol

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

Cutler is far from a quitter. One thing about him I can honestly say. Guy's actually endured a shit ton in his time here.

And McCown is a BAD QB who had a horse shoe ups his ass during a five week stint in which he went 2-3 against some of the easiest defensive competition this league has seen in the last decade. According to the records they broke for yards/points allowed.

Cutler is a very good fantasy QB as most of his numbers come in junk time, but he is not a leader - he instills no confidence in me (looks at Bears record) or in the team for that matter.

What has he endured, having a top five running back in the backfield, a top 3 receiving tandem to throw to? True he has a o-line full of holes and a shoddy defense but so does Pittsburgh and they're going to the playoffs and play in a tougher division.

My point is he's no leader and Vandy sheepskin aside I don't find him to be than smart on the gridiron - apparently Denver concurs with me as they severed ties and have gone to a Super Bowl since whereas Jay has stayed at the same level of success.

 

[Chasin' Utleys]

I see other QBs running to the OC looking at polaroids, and discussing next plays, but Jay Cutler is straight to the bench to pout, chomp on his fingernails, etc.

^^^THIS

 

[nomoreshoop]

Tebow couldn't hold Bobby Douglass's jock strap.