Our Next QB

[averagejoe]

I don't anticipate any good coming out of this thread. And I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm also not trying to paint myself into Jay's corner.

But let's play GM and pretend that we can replace Cutler. Another NFL would have to make a trade offer. And you figure that it would have to be an NFL more desperate than the Bears for a QB. (They'd have to be willing to eat Jay's 7-year contract that he just signed this season.) So we can probably eliminate the Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Seahawks, Falcons, Lions, Chargers, Steelers, etc.

Would we be more content if we get a few draft picks and, say Kaepernick, Hoyer, Dalton, Palmer, or Fitzpatrick? Kaeps could be an interesting add. Maybe.

Maybe a trade won't get us there? So here's a partial list of the free agent QB for 2015:

UFA Matt Moore
UFA Mark Sanchez
UFA Jake Locker
UFA Michael Vick
UFA Matt Hasselbeck
UFA Christian Ponder
UFA Matt Flynn
UFA Blaine Gabbert
UFA Shaun Hill
UFA Jason Campbell
UFA Brian Hoyer
UFA Tarvaris Jackson
UFA Ryan Mallett
UFA Tyrod Taylor
UFA T.J. Yates
UFA Scott Tolzien
UFA Jimmy Clausen
UFA Dan Orlovsky
UFA Colt McCoy
UFA Luke McCown

Hmmm. Nothing jumps out at me here. What about 2015 draft prospects? Here's a list of the top 12 college prospects as of today:

1 Marcus Mariota - Oregon
3 Jameis Winston - Florida State
41 Brett Hundley - UCLA
60 Dak Prescott - Mississippi State
88 Bryce Petty - Baylor
115 Shane Carden - East Carolina
127 Garrett Grayson - Colorado State
153 Cody Fajardo - Nevada
170 Sean Mannion - Oregon State
188 Brandon Bridge - South Alabama
211 Bo Wallace - Ole Miss
238 Jake Waters - Kansas State

This may be a good time to mention that since Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos in 2006, there have been 109 QB drafted in the NFL after him. One hundred nine! And in 2014 alone, so far (as of 12/7) a total of 67 different QB have taken an NFL snap this season.

Given the options available, and the uncertainty of future prospects, I just don't see things getting any better if the Bears decide to move on from Jay.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

Thanks for this... those all look like future Superbowl winners!

 

[averagejoe]

Let me try this again... (since I made a few errors)

I don't anticipate any good coming out of this thread. And I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm also not trying to paint myself into Jay's corner.

But let's play GM and pretend that we can replace Cutler. Another NFL team would have to make a trade offer. And you figure that it would have to be an NFL team more desperate than the Bears for a QB. (They'd have to be willing to eat Jay's 7-year contract that he just signed this season.) So we can probably eliminate teams such as the Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Saints, Seahawks, Falcons, Lions, Chargers, Steelers, etc.

Would we be more content if we get a few draft picks and, say Kaepernick, Dalton, Palmer, Eli, or Fitzpatrick? Kaeps or Eli could be an interesting add. Maybe.

Maybe a trade won't get us there? So here's a partial list of the free agent QB for 2015:

UFA Matt Moore
UFA Mark Sanchez
UFA Jake Locker
UFA Michael Vick
UFA Matt Hasselbeck
UFA Christian Ponder
UFA Matt Flynn
UFA Blaine Gabbert
UFA Shaun Hill
UFA Jason Campbell
UFA Brian Hoyer
UFA Tarvaris Jackson
UFA Ryan Mallett
UFA Tyrod Taylor
UFA T.J. Yates
UFA Scott Tolzien
UFA Jimmy Clausen
UFA Dan Orlovsky
UFA Colt McCoy
UFA Luke McCown

Hmmm. Nothing jumps out at me here. What about 2015 draft prospects? Here's a list of the top 12 college prospects as of today:

1 Marcus Mariota - Oregon
3 Jameis Winston - Florida State
41 Brett Hundley - UCLA
60 Dak Prescott - Mississippi State
88 Bryce Petty - Baylor
115 Shane Carden - East Carolina
127 Garrett Grayson - Colorado State
153 Cody Fajardo - Nevada
170 Sean Mannion - Oregon State
188 Brandon Bridge - South Alabama
211 Bo Wallace - Ole Miss
238 Jake Waters - Kansas State

This may be a good time to mention that since Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos in 2006, there have been 109 QB drafted in the NFL after him. One hundred nine! And in 2014 alone, so far (as of 12/7) a total of 67 different QB have taken a snap in the NFL this season.

Given the options available, and the uncertainty of future prospects, I just don't see things getting any better if the Bears decide to move on from Jay.

 

[JoeyTourettes]

watching this NE/SD game... Phillip Rivers is such a douche.

 

[fordman84]

I don't anticipate any good coming out of this thread. And I'm not trying to cause trouble. I'm also not trying to paint myself into Jay's corner.

But let's play GM and pretend that we can replace Cutler. Another NFL team would have to make a trade offer. And you figure that it would have to be an NFL team more desperate than the Bears for a QB. (They'd have to be willing to eat Jay's 7-year contract that he just signed this season.) So we can probably eliminate teams such as the Packers, Patriots, Colts, Broncos, Saints, Seahawks, Falcons, Lions, Chargers, Steelers, etc.

Would we be more content if we get a few draft picks and, say Kaepernick, Dalton, Palmer, Eli, or Fitzpatrick? Kaeps or Eli could be an interesting add. Maybe.

Maybe a trade won't get us there? So here's a partial list of the free agent QB for 2015:

UFA Matt Moore
UFA Mark Sanchez
UFA Jake Locker
UFA Michael Vick
UFA Matt Hasselbeck
UFA Christian Ponder
UFA Matt Flynn
UFA Blaine Gabbert
UFA Shaun Hill
UFA Jason Campbell
UFA Brian Hoyer
UFA Tarvaris Jackson
UFA Ryan Mallett
UFA Tyrod Taylor
UFA T.J. Yates
UFA Scott Tolzien
UFA Jimmy Clausen
UFA Dan Orlovsky
UFA Colt McCoy
UFA Luke McCown

Hmmm. Nothing jumps out at me here. What about 2015 draft prospects? Here's a list of the top 12 college prospects as of today:

1 Marcus Mariota - Oregon
3 Jameis Winston - Florida State
41 Brett Hundley - UCLA
60 Dak Prescott - Mississippi State
88 Bryce Petty - Baylor
115 Shane Carden - East Carolina
127 Garrett Grayson - Colorado State
153 Cody Fajardo - Nevada
170 Sean Mannion - Oregon State
188 Brandon Bridge - South Alabama
211 Bo Wallace - Ole Miss
238 Jake Waters - Kansas State

This may be a good time to mention that since Jay Cutler was drafted by the Broncos in 2006, there have been 109 QB drafted in the NFL after him. One hundred nine! And in 2014 alone, so far (as of 12/7) a total of 67 different QB have taken a snap in the NFL this season.

Given the options available, and the uncertainty of future prospects, I just don't see things getting any better if the Bears decide to move on from Jay.

So is your contention that you could get picks AND any of those QB's for Cutler and his silly contract?

 

[GNG]

Thanks for this... those all look like future Superbowl winners!

How about Brett Favre?

 

[richig07]

I've watched a lot of Jameis this year. I don't give a shit what anyone says, that kid can play.

I like Marriota too, but IDK if he falls to us. If we took Jameis, I'd be pretty excited.

 

[nebearsfan70]

I've watched a lot of Jameis this year. I don't give a shit what anyone says, that kid can play.

I like Marriota too, but IDK if he falls to us. If we took Jameis, I'd be pretty excited.

I wouldn't. Winston is a head case... I live a few miles from Tallahassee and FSU is my alma mater, and I hear flap everyday about the stupid shit this kid does. He is a tragedy waiting to happen.

 

[nomoreshoop]

I've watched a lot of Jameis this year. I don't give a shit what anyone says, that kid can play.

I like Marriota too, but IDK if he falls to us. If we took Jameis, I'd be pretty excited.

Joe Namath, John Elway, are head cases imho, but they did just fine. Jameis is getting the job done and I'm fine with him unlearning behind Cutler.

 

[nomoreshoop]

I wouldn't. Winston is a head case... I live a few miles from Tallahassee and FSU is my alma mater, and I hear flap everyday about the stupid shit this kid does. He is a tragedy waiting to happen.

Green Bay or Belichek will probably reform him, but that behavior is something to keep in mind.

 

[anotheridiot]

they would need to finally get Jay to Tennessee to get Marcus Mariota past them, but best case is move up in the draft, take Marcus and let him develop for two years, just make sure he is next to the QB coach on the sidelines when Jay does something wrong to say dont do that.

 

[cubzzzfanincali]

Obviously, the draft is a crapshoot. But also obviously, there is a chance some of the kids on your list, and on whoever could be drafted in 2016, could develop even though you or I didn't see it coming. The QBs drafted since 2006 who I would say I "didn't see coming" and who I would rather have right now instead of Cutler include Tannehill, Wilson, Kapernick is a tossup (he looked awful yesterday too), and maybe Foles (not enough tape yet).

QB is a tough position to draft. That's because if you screw it up, you wind up with guys like Cutler, who aren't good enough to win you a Super Bowl and cost you a huge chunk of your salary cap.

 

[broncosmitty]

Im in full support of Jameis being Cuttys understudy.

 

[richig07]

I wouldn't. Winston is a head case... I live a few miles from Tallahassee and FSU is my alma mater, and I hear flap everyday about the stupid shit this kid does. He is a tragedy waiting to happen.

Yeah, I'm sure those stories aren't exaggerated. lol *Rolls eyes*… It's not like anyone would want to have a juicy story about a celebrity or anything. That NEEEEVERRR happens.

He comes off like a completely normal 20 year old kid. The problem is, more is expected of a future NFL QB.

I've watched him a lot, and I really like the way he plays. Say what you want about his attitude too, but all I see is a competitor, who actually behaves pretty humbly in the midst of games.

Some of the throws he makes during the course of games, make quite a few NFL QB's look like complete dogs. His ceiling is sky freaking high. I'll take a chance on him ANY DAY.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Looks like Hoyer will be available.

 

[richig07]

Looks like Hoyer will be available.

If your plan is really to roll with Brian freaking Hoyer, you might as well save the 38 mil and keep Jay for two more years.

 

[anotheridiot]

Im in full support of Jameis being Cuttys understudy.

as a bear fan or a lions fan?

There is no understudy, Jay does not help the young QB's along. It would be like Favre in Green Bay with Rodgers, not even acknowledging he is on the sideline. We have seen it before with Jason Campbell.

 

[NCChiFan]

No way I would go top 10 pick on Winston. That is taking a huge chance on what appears to be an out of control kid. But, really, we need a qb to develop but I really would rather take one in round 3-5. We have other holes that need filling in a more desperate measure. We need an O tackle badly, we need a pass rushing DE badly. We need a Safety, badly. We need another CB badly. We may need another ILB. Back up TE/H back. Punter. Center.

 

[nebearsfan70]

Yeah, I'm sure those stories aren't exaggerated. lol *Rolls eyes*… It's not like anyone would want to have a juicy story about a celebrity or anything. That NEEEEVERRR happens.

He comes off like a completely normal 20 year old kid. The problem is, more is expected of a future NFL QB.

I've watched him a lot, and I really like the way he plays. Say what you want about his attitude too, but all I see is a competitor, who actually behaves pretty humbly in the midst of games.

Some of the throws he makes during the course of games, make quite a few NFL QB's look like complete dogs. His ceiling is sky freaking high. I'll take a chance on him ANY DAY.

I'm not discounting his athletic ability or his mad gaming skills at all. The guy is a stud on the football field but a complete thug off the field. Sure, there are plenty of stories that are overblown but there are stories that are true... And that is scary.

I find it odd you would say you would take a chance of Winston and his off-field antics but in another thread you state you can't stand BM for his off-field behavior??

 

[anotheridiot]

No way I would go top 10 pick on Winston. That is taking a huge chance on what appears to be an out of control kid. But, really, we need a qb to develop but I really would rather take one in round 3-5. We have other holes that need filling in a more desperate measure. We need an O tackle badly, we need a pass rushing DE badly. We need a Safety, badly. We need another CB badly. We may need another ILB. Back up TE/H back. Punter. Center.

Thats what got us in this current position, all the holes that require more desperate measures which has us picking quarterbacks that nobody wants late in the draft. This year we got David Fales after losing Enderle last year. He has promise but isnt enough that somebody wants to claim him off the practice squad. Thats the same thing they will try with a 3-5 round pick.