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markhmasters: Corey Perry calls JVR-Bozak-Kessel the best line in the NHL right now
 

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:nod::clap: Glad to see my man Artie having some success!

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tsnscottcullen: Talked with NHL team exec who assailed all use of analytics as worthless, claimed team would never use them. Team in bottom 3rd of standings
 

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tsnscottcullen: Talked with NHL team exec who assailed all use of analytics as worthless, claimed team would never use them. Team in bottom 3rd of standings

I'm going to guess either the Islanders or Oilers
 

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Time for some "hope-n-change" tonite!

Pens have won 7 straight over the Caps. Home-n-home series starts tonite. Games on the NHL Network.

I lobed ALL me vCash at the Caps and sir Ovechkin tonite.


Let's bring home a lil' bacon for BoBo tonite boyz!
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For those of you who say Hank is overrated. Easily the 2nd best goalie of this generation, behind Marty. And that's with getting a late start in his career.

In his career, Henrik Lundqvist is 300-191-61 with a .920 save percentage and a 2.27 GAA.
From the 2005-06 season (Lundqvist’s rookie year) to now, Lundqvist ranks:
  • Games played: 1st with 560
  • Wins: 1st with 300
  • Minutes: 1st with 33,031
  • GAA: 4th with 2.27, 1st in goalies who have played more than 200 games
  • Shots against: 2nd with 15,649
  • Saves: 2nd with 14,398
  • Save percentage: 6th with .920, 2nd in goalies who have played at least 400 games.
Other goalies who have played at least 500 games since 2005-06 include Marty Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Ryan Miller and Miikka Kiprusoff.
Since 1990, Lundqvist ranks 13th in wins with 300 and second in save percentage, behind Dominic Hasek’s .922, with .920
He got a late start too, the fact that he is putting up these numbers as he got a late start in the NHL is impressive. The fact that he played on some Ranger teams that were non-descript for a while and then became better and were really good around him. He has to be considered one of the top players, in the last 15-20 years, he has to be considered in the top 7 or 8 goalies that have played in the league, he has been fantastic. (Pierre McGuire on TSN 1050)
 

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For those of you who say Hank is overrated. Easily the 2nd best goalie of this generation, behind Marty. And that's with getting a late start in his career.

In his career, Henrik Lundqvist is 300-191-61 with a .920 save percentage and a 2.27 GAA.
From the 2005-06 season (Lundqvist’s rookie year) to now, Lundqvist ranks:
  • Games played: 1st with 560
  • Wins: 1st with 300
  • Minutes: 1st with 33,031
  • GAA: 4th with 2.27, 1st in goalies who have played more than 200 games
  • Shots against: 2nd with 15,649
  • Saves: 2nd with 14,398
  • Save percentage: 6th with .920, 2nd in goalies who have played at least 400 games.
Other goalies who have played at least 500 games since 2005-06 include Marty Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Ryan Miller and Miikka Kiprusoff.
Since 1990, Lundqvist ranks 13th in wins with 300 and second in save percentage, behind Dominic Hasek’s .922, with .920
He got a late start too, the fact that he is putting up these numbers as he got a late start in the NHL is impressive. The fact that he played on some Ranger teams that were non-descript for a while and then became better and were really good around him. He has to be considered one of the top players, in the last 15-20 years, he has to be considered in the top 7 or 8 goalies that have played in the league, he has been fantastic. (Pierre McGuire on TSN 1050)

Ever?

Hockey wasn't created in 1990, Doc.
 

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Ever?

Hockey wasn't created in 1990, Doc.

Did you see where he said in the last 15-20 years, that he may be the best ever? Meaning in that span.

Unless, he was meant to be cut off instead of carrying on his sentence. Leading to top 7 or 8 of all-time.
 
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Did you see where he said in the last 15-20 years, that he may be the best ever? Meaning in that span.

I read that differently. I took it to mean one of the top players overall in the last 10-15 and one of the top 7 or 8 goalies ever.
 

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King Henrik is also first in LOSSES since 2005-06 with 191
 

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I read that differently. I took it to mean one of the top players overall in the last 10-15 and one of the top 7 or 8 goalies ever.

Well the way it was worded, I could understand that. Not sure if he really continued his sentence or meant to stop and then make another remark on it. Easily can be misunderstood.
 

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Do you remember those post-lockout Ranger teams? LOL Without Hank, we don't even back into the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed. Outside of Jagr, teams were horrific.

so the losses are on his teammates but the wins are on him?
 

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Do people remember the last three games in that series against the Devils two years ago, Henrik Lundqvist, who's supposed to be one of the best in the game, choked? He gave up 3 or more goals in each of the final three games after they had a 2-1 series lead - and don't blame it all on the team in front of him, they scored plenty of goals to win the last three games of the series and he didn't come up big against them

At the end of the day, we know he's a great talent and has racked up really good stats, but don't use that as your entire argument when it's obvious he hasn't gotten it done in crunch time

I'll take Jonathan Quick over him any day of the week - and for those that want to rip Jonathan Quick for not having great regular season numbers the last few seasons, it doesn't mean anything because come playoff time he IS the best there is in the NHL - if you're really a great goaltender, you'll get it done no matter what
 

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when you dig deeper the career numbers arent all that far away from Bobby Lous and you dont see anyone proclaiming Bobby Lou the "greatest goaltender on earth" (at least not in the past 5 or 6 years anyways)

398 more shots against in his career than Bobby Lou ... thats just over 0.75 more shots per game (over 500 games) ... big whoop

0.002 better save percentage than Bobby lou ... thats a difference of 30 goals (over 15000 shots faced) ... big whoop again
 

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so the losses are on his teammates but the wins are on him?

Not at all, just saying those were some pretty bad teams. How they even managed to make the playoffs was beyond me. And honestly, a lot of the wins are on him, I could tell you hundreds of times where Hank had to shut down an entire team on his own, since we were never a high scoring team. We were never winning games by large margains, hell, we still don't. Without Hank, we would be nowhere.
 

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when you dig deeper the career numbers arent all that far away from Bobby Lous and you dont see anyone proclaiming Bobby Lou the "greatest goaltender on earth" (at least not in the past 5 or 6 years anyways)

398 more shots against in his career than Bobby Lou ... thats just over 0.75 more shots per game (over 500 games) ... big whoop

0.002 better save percentage than Bobby lou ... thats a difference of 30 goals (over 15000 shots faced) ... big whoop again

No argument here, I love Luongo. Wish he would have a Cup as well, should have beat the Bruins.

Do people remember the last three games in that series against the Devils two years ago, Henrik Lundqvist, who's supposed to be one of the best in the game, choked? He gave up 3 or more goals in each of the final three games after they had a 2-1 series lead - and don't blame it all on the team in front of him, they scored plenty of goals to win the last three games of the series and he didn't come up big against them

At the end of the day, we know he's a great talent and has racked up really good stats, but don't use that as your entire argument when it's obvious he hasn't gotten it done in crunch time

I'll take Jonathan Quick over him any day of the week - and for those that want to rip Jonathan Quick for not having great regular season numbers the last few seasons, it doesn't mean anything because come playoff time he IS the best there is in the NHL - if you're really a great goaltender, you'll get it done no matter what

That Ranger team overachieved and if you think anything different of it, you're clue less. We scored plenty of goals before? That team got as far as they did, because of Hank, that PP was god awful, there was no scoring depth. That team overachieved and it showed in that Devils series, we weren't as deep as them, and the 3rd and 4th line proved it. I'm not blaming Hank for that series, he stole 2 games, he did what he could, that team couldn't score for shit.

Guy has made the Cup once and now ''HE'S THE BEST THERE IS''? All homer aside, you can't be serious. Put Hank in front of that defense and with that offense and they would be a dynasty. Hank has never played with an offense in the top 10 in scoring, always bottom 15 of the league. It's finally changing this year and he's on pace, again, to win 30 games.

Marcus, remind me who is the only goalie to ever win 30 or more games in his first 8+ seasons? Is it Quick? Nope, don't think so, that would be KING HENRIK. Add that to his Gold and Silver medal as well, along with Vezina Trophy and the Cup that will come in the next 2-3 years.
 
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