Ongoing NHL thread - Part deux

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Didn't Holzer sign with another team?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Didn't Holzer sign with another team?

Ducks. To put them over the top.

 

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As esls said earlier, the Pacific Division is the late 80s Norris division - Lucic in LA, Steve Downie and John Scott in Arizona, McGrattan and Holzer in Anaheim, all we need is Matt Cooke to land back with the Canucks.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I did just read that the Pens lease the arena, so maybe there is something they're interested in.

Anyway, the Isles sold for $485 million last year and they play in fucking New York. I can't see the Pens selling for a heck of a lot more than that.

 

[tducey]

Darn right it's a tough division. Also the Pacific feature 2 quick rising teams in Calgary and Edmonton. Los Angeles and San Jose are still there as is Anaheim. Arizona will bring up the rear and Vancouver should take a step back but other than that it's a solid division.

 

[Comeds]

I did just read that the Pens lease the arena, so maybe there is something they're interested in.

Anyway, the Isles sold for $485 million last year and they play in fucking New York. I can't see the Pens selling for a heck of a lot more than that.

Does Sidney still live with Mario? If so does the new owner have to let him move in with them?

 

[forty_three]

I did just read that the Pens lease the arena, so maybe there is something they're interested in.

Anyway, the Isles sold for $485 million last year and they play in fucking New York. I can't see the Pens selling for a heck of a lot more than that.

I agree they shouldn't sell for a whole lot more, but the Franchise is more valuable than NYI. Merch sales, TV contracts/ratings, french fry sandwich concessions... Big money.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Not to mention Pens have a brand new arena and the Islanders at the time were playing in a 40 year old dump.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Not to mention Pens have a brand new arena and the Islanders at the time were playing in a 40 year old dump.

With concrete plans to move to a brand new arena in a city with 9 million people as opposed to Pittsburgh's 300,000.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

With concrete plans to move to a brand new arena in a city with 9 million people as opposed to Pittsburgh's 300,000.

Having an arena that is already built versus having a non existent arena that the owners will likely have to help pay for are not the same thing. If new ownership has to shell out money for a new arena that probably factored into a discounted price and would help explain the discrepancy.

 

[BGDave]

I agree they shouldn't sell for a whole lot more, but the Franchise is more valuable than NYI. Merch sales, TV contracts/ratings, french fry sandwich concessions... Big money.

This is the key right here.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I agree they shouldn't sell for a whole lot more, but the Franchise is more valuable than NYI. Merch sales, TV contracts/ratings, french fry sandwich concessions... Big money.

I agree it's more valuable, but not by a heck of a lot.

Having an arena that is already built versus having a non existent arena that the owners will likely have to help pay for are not the same thing. If new ownership has to shell out money for a new arena that probably factored into a discounted price and would help explain the discrepancy.

..? Barclays Centre was open years before the Isles announced they were moving there and sold the team.

 

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[Nasty_Magician]

I agree it's more valuable, but not by a heck of

..? Barclays Centre was open years before the Isles announced they were moving there and sold the team.

Barclays will be temporary. It was built for basketball so the sight lines are all screwed up, the capacity is significantly smaller than most arenas and it's more difficult for the fans on Long Island to get to there. It's likely why the Islanders have an opt out clause with their Barclays lease.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Barclays will be temporary. It was built for basketball so the sight lines are all screwed up, the capacity is significantly smaller than most arenas and it's more difficult for the fans on Long Island to get to there. It's likely why the Islanders have an opt out clause with their Barclays lease.

Maybe it works out at Barclays, maybe it doesn't. I doubt it affected the sale price too much - that's like saying the fact that Crosby and Malkin will probably be retired in a decade should affect the sale price of the Pens.

 

[BGDave]

About all I can say is, if Franson thinks he is worth 6 mil per, I can see why Oduya balked at a mere 5 mil.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

About all I can say is, if Franson thinks he is worth 6 mil per, I can see why Oduya balked at a mere 5 mil.

My guess is Franson winds up on a 1 year deal like Ehrhoff last summer. A few good months in Toronto isn't going to convince any GM's right now to go long on you.

...ok maybe Boston or Vancouver.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Solid deal. Have to figure Larsson will be getting $3-4 million per.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Didn't Holzer sign with another team?

If you make it Robidas instead the Bruins come out ahead!

 

[forty_three]

JMFJ update.

Ex-NFLer Will Allen Indicted For Role In Alleged Ponzi Scheme

Two of the people involved in the ponzi scheme that helped bankrupt Jack Johnson (the loans his parents got in his name to take part in this ruse) have been indicted. One is a former NFL player.

Hope his parents are next.