Ongoing NHL thread - Part deux

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John Scott has landed in Arizona - Geez, that team is definitely not hiding the fact that Auston Matthews is the target for next season.

 

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Penguins sale could fetch $850 million, bid expected soon | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports Canada

Primanti Bros., here I come...

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

John Scott has landed in Arizona - Geez, that team is definitely not hiding the fact that Auston Matthews is the target for next season.

Meanwhile, I'm really starting to think the Leafs aren't going to be as putrid as I originally thought they would. Which I guess I should be upset about because that would probably mean no top-3 pick but if the improved play is the result of youngsters making a step up and Bernier playing like a top ten goalie that isn't such a bad thing.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Penguins sale could fetch $850 million, bid expected soon | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports Canada

Primanti Bros., here I come...

"news that one of the NHL’s most popular (and presumably profitable) teams was on the block."

I thought they weren't that profitable? Wasn't that from a story posted here a few months back?

 

[esls79]

John Scott has landed in Arizona - Geez, that team is definitely not hiding the fact that Auston Matthews is the target for next season.

The Pacific division is becoming what the Norris was in the late 80's. I'm sure Colton Orr can get a two way deal from the Kings if he wants to.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Meanwhile, I'm really starting to think the Leafs aren't going to be as putrid as I originally thought they would. Which I guess I should be upset about because that would probably mean no top-3 pick but if the improved play is the result of youngsters making a step up and Bernier playing like a top ten goalie that isn't such a bad thing.

I have the exact same thoughts regarding the Devils.

 

[forty_three]

Based on? Do you know someone involved with minor hockey in Las Vegas and/or had dealings with their organizations? Personally I don't know the first thing about minor hockey in that area so I have no strong opinions either way.

High school friend who lived in Vegas and told me choices for youth baseball were limited. What are the chances a "niche" Canuck sport will be any different?

 

[forty_three]

I thought they weren't that profitable? Wasn't that from a story posted here a few months back?

An NHL owner? Lying to get sympathy and/or gubment help?

GET OUT

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I have the exact same thoughts regarding the Devils.

And they have the goalie thing solved.

 

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The Pacific division is becoming what the Norris was in the late 80's. I'm sure Colton Orr can get a two way deal from the Kings if he wants to.

Is Matt Cooke still looking for a NHL gig?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

An NHL owner? Lying to get sympathy and/or gubment help?

GET OUT

Eh...you usually don't brag about being poor when you're about to hit the market. Plus they already got their government barn.

 

[forty_three]

Eh...you usually don't brag about being poor when you're about to hit the market. Plus they already got their government barn.

Government Barn yes, but if they can score government money to settle up debts and make the franchise more solvent and therefore more attractive...

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Government Barn yes, but if they can score government money to settle up debts and make the franchise more solvent and therefore more attractive...

...come again? There's examples of teams asking for government money just for the fuck of it?

I know teams have gone begging for stadium upgrades (new screens, new rooms, new toilets etc.) but just cold hard cash? I could be wrong but I can't remember an instance of that happening.

 

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By the way, if Mario and Burkle do get $850 million, that's pretty darn good for a garage league team

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

...come again? There's examples of teams asking for government money just for the fuck of it?

I know teams have gone begging for stadium upgrades (new screens, new rooms, new toilets etc.) but just cold hard cash? I could be wrong but I can't remember an instance of that happening.

I don't know that teams have asked for cash straight up, but there's definite precedent for asking for tax breaks or other incentives around the arena.

 

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[forty_three]

...come again? There's examples of teams asking for government money just for the fuck of it?

I know teams have gone begging for stadium upgrades (new screens, new rooms, new toilets etc.) but just cold hard cash? I could be wrong but I can't remember an instance of that happening.

Blue Jackets "negotiated" for the city of Columbus to buy the arena from Nationwide, so the Jackets could get a share of the naming rights cash to help with money problems. The city then makes tax revenue on concessions and can lower the tax burden (read breaks on a lot of things) and give the team an arena lease for $1 a year. Nationwide sold the arena it built and got the rights to build the entire arena district. City now gets revenue from all arena events and tax on parking and concessions. Everyone gets something, except the taxpayer...

So maybe not direct money asks, but yeah, shenanigans and money moved from pile to pile but not actually spent.

Jackets said they were "losing" 10m a year, and it turns out that the team just wasn't making the 10m they should have been getting on naming rights, and certain tax issues because of the arena ownership thing.

So, by extrapolation, I am losing the 7.75m a year I am not earning because I should be Bobrovsky.


Pens threatened a move before and got a building out of it. Now that they've seen the steady cash flow of that deal, they can certainly find places where they can make more, or spend less. And emotional blackmail has already worked once...

 

[KennyBanyeah]

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Blue Jackets "negotiated" for the city of Columbus to buy the arena from Nationwide, so the Jackets could get a share of the naming rights cash to help with money problems. The city then makes tax revenue on concessions and can lower the tax burden (read breaks on a lot of things) and give the team an arena lease for $1 a year. Nationwide sold the arena it built and got the rights to build the entire arena district. City now gets revenue from all arena events and tax on parking and concessions. Everyone gets something, except the taxpayer...

So maybe not direct money asks, but yeah, shenanigans and money moved from pile to pile but not actually spent.

Jackets said they were "losing" 10m a year, and it turns out that the team just wasn't making the 10m they should have been getting on naming rights, and certain tax issues because of the arena ownership thing.

So, by extrapolation, I am losing the 7.75m a year I am not earning because I should be Bobrovsky.


Pens threatened a move before and got a building out of it. Now that they've seen the steady cash flow of that deal, they can certainly find places where they can make more, or spend less. And emotional blackmail has already worked once...

But the Jackets' situation was kind of unique, no? Don't most teams own the barns they play in these days? Is there land around Consol the team wants to get their hands on?

 

[Cobiemonster]