Ongoing NHL thread - Part deux

[sabresfaninthesouth]

The follow-up to the above transaction is good stuff as well:

The Kings were in danger of "beating" the Seals out for last place, and if this happened Pollock would lose his first overall pick. Pollock traded the aging Ralph Backstrom to the Kings for two players. Backstrom's presence lifted the Kings out of last place, and the Seals finished at the bottom, granting the Habs the first pick. Pollock hesitated between Lafleur and Marcel Dionne, but chose Lafleur with the first draft choice.

That's a great dilemma to have right there. Obviously Lafleur was a great choice, but that's nearly 1800 career points as his alternative.

 

[forty_three]

This is rapidly approaching the worst list.

April 3, 2013
Washington Capitals acquire
Martin Erat
Michael Latta

Nashville Predators acquire
Filip Forsberg

The fact that GMGM called a press conference to announce it just icing on the cake. He was so proud.

Oh wow, holy shit. He then sent Perrault to ANA for John Mitchell and then sent Mitchell and Erat to ARI for Chris Brown, Rusty Klesla and a 4th.

He turned Forsberg and Perrault into Brown and Klelsa

 

[pixburgher66]

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[Bloody Brian Burke]

The worst trade list is fun too. There's no explanation that I could find of what got them on the list other than perhaps the opinion of the person who operates the site. But there are some amazing ones on there.

Buffalo Sabres acquire
Dominik Hasek

Chicago Blackhawks acquire
Stephane Beauregard
1993 4th round pick (#90-Eric Daze)

Tom Kurvers is on there of course. Anyone who reads DGB is well acquainted with that one.

I don't know who this Kurvers fella is. Sounds made up and like nothing ever happened with him in regards to the National Hockey League and trades.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Where the hell is Matt Moulson, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick for Thomas Vanek? The Gilmour trade? The Sundin trade? Larry Murphy for a donut?! Cammon!

 

[dash]

I refuse to acknowledge that Doug Gilmour et al was traded for Gary Leeman et al...

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I refuse to acknowledge that Doug Gilmour et al was traded for Gary Leeman et al...

How bout Brett Hull for Rob Ramage?

 

[forty_three]

Doug Gilmour trades - NHL Trade Tracker

How in the hell did a guy so great get traded so often for table scraps?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Where the hell is Matt Moulson, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick for Thomas Vanek?

I think that has potential to make the list someday. Will most likely depend on who the Sabres take with those picks. When you add in other downstream pieces too, they essentially turned Moulson into two more 2nd rounders and a 3rd.

 

[dash]

How bout Brett Hull for Rob Ramage?

Don't forget that Rick Wamsley was included in that swap and he provided enough of a rest for Mike Vernon for the Flames to win the Cup in '89. Ramage was pretty good as well, I mean Hull put up some amazing numbers, but I don't know if the Flames win the Cup without that trade.

/And Joel Otto kicking the puck in against the Canucks

 

[jstewismybastardson]

June 6, 1986

Boston Bruins acquire
Cam Neely
1987 1st round pick (#3-Glen Wesley)

Vancouver Canucks acquire
Barry Pederson

Ouch.

Markus Naslund for Alex Stojanov kinda brought the canucks franchise "trade rip off" meter closer to the middle but not all the way

 

[forty_three]

hey dash, if you see Kenny log in, delete this one, okay?

August 23, 2005

Atlanta Thrashers acquire
Greg de Vries
Marian Hossa


Ottawa Senators acquire
Dany Heatley

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Don't forget that Rick Wamsley was included in that swap and he provided enough of a rest for Mike Vernon for the Flames to win the Cup in '89. Ramage was pretty good as well, I mean Hull put up some amazing numbers, but I don't know if the Flames win the Cup without that trade.

/And Joel Otto kicking the puck in against the Canucks

Rick Wamsley's daughter was my first high school girlfriend. She dumped me in a week. Never got to meet the guy, sadly.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

technically the worst trade could be Kassian for Hodgson ... stinks for everybody

 

[Puck082]

I think that has potential to make the list someday. Will most likely depend on who the Sabres take with those picks. When you add in other downstream pieces too, they essentially turned Moulson into two more 2nd rounders and a 3rd.

While I won't defend that trade, I will say that the Isles parted ways with Moulson at the right time. I don't think they would have paid him that contract knowing what they had coming up from the AHL (Nelson, Strome).

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

While I won't defend that trade, I will say that the Isles parted ways with Moulson at the right time. I don't think they would have paid him that contract knowing what they had coming up from the AHL (Nelson, Strome).

No disagreement on that aspect. I'd say he's underperformed, even by the (currently very low) standards of a Sabres player.

It's the cost and the fact that he essentially got bent over by MTL in moving Vanek on that gives it the potential to look so bad. Then again, if the Sabres get garbage out of the draft - which is certainly possible given that the Isles pick is shaping up to be at-best mid-20s - nobody will look back on it as much.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

/And Joel Otto kicking the puck in against the Canucks

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

While I won't defend that trade, I will say that the Isles parted ways with Moulson at the right time. I don't think they would have paid him that contract knowing what they had coming up from the AHL (Nelson, Strome).

Parting with him would've been fine. Acquiring someone else to trade for a fraction of the value just months later is borderline psychotic.

 

[Puck082]

Parting with him would've been fine. Acquiring someone else to trade for a fraction of the value just months later is borderline psychotic.

Well the goal was to sign him long term. I think the psychotic part was Vanek not accepting the Isles bloated deal for purposes of handling his gambling debts.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Well the goal was to sign him long term. I think the psychotic part was Vanek not accepting the Isles bloated deal for purposes of handling his gambling debts.

Which brings us to two items:

1) If you're trying to extend a guy you just brought over and endured a terrible season with, maybe offer him more than his current deal did?

2) Everybody and their grandmothers knew Vanek was going to Minny. Well, except Garth Snow, apparently.