Offseason Discussion-2013 Edition

[msgkings322]

ouch...

Estimate was about 6M, he signs for 8M. And this is just his first year of arb.

Once the kids start to lose their bargain factor, they begin to lose their value. I understand he had to be paid, and good for him for getting it done. But overpays make it harder to get complimentary pieces in FA or trade.

cal, I've said this before, we're all just going to have to get used to the fact that there ain't no 'overpaying' anymore. There's a new market rate.

Thanks Dodger fucks!

 

[calsnowskier]

cal, I've said this before, we're all just going to have to get used to the fact that there ain't no 'overpaying' anymore. There's a new market rate.

Thanks Dodger fucks!

For FAs, sure. But this is a first year, Arb 1 guy.

Don't get me wrong, Posey is worth 2X that contract. If he were an FA, and we signed/resigned him at 8M, my tone would be 100% different. But that ain't the case. When you overpay for Arb 1 guys, you end up paying the Hunter Pences of the world 14M in Arb 3.

Also know that this is coming from someone who knows completely that he is just a dumb schmoe on the inter-webz who doesn't know jack from shit. ISABWT! My pitchfork is still firmly secured in the tool shed.

 

[Mays-Fan]

The crawl on MLBTV reported that we signed Hunter Pence to 1 yr, $13.8 mill, avoiding arbitration.

No big surprise, but it's a little more amicable this way.

Oops, this at least 12 hours old:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/giants-pence-avoid-arbitration.html

 

[Stokes1931]

Blanco gets 1.35M

Players Avoiding Arbitration: Friday: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

The catch to save Cainer's perfect game was worth at least a million dollars, so we get a bargain here. Yes?

 

[tzill]

Exactly on estimate.

Overpay, but he does have the potential to at least play to the contract.

This trade is an odd one for me. We got a ring out of it, but he did nothing (on the field) to contribute to it. We also gave up arguably our #1 prospect for him. Now he is out top paid position player (maybe #2 to Oxy?) and we are all crossing our fingers that he plays to the contract.

Tough trade to evaluate...

We traded SUSAC???

 

[tzill]

Weezy not coming back:

Report: Sabean says Wilson will not return to Giants | CSN Bay Area

 

[SFGRTB]

Forty-Niners!!

 

[msgkings322]

Weezy not coming back:

Report: Sabean says Wilson will not return to Giants | CSN Bay Area

I know why, and it's the right call, but still a shame. He was my favorite Giant of this era. I'll always root for him.

 

[tzill]

I know why, and it's the right call, but still a shame. He was my favorite Giant of this era. I'll always root for him.

Well, SabeySabes also said that the Bengie Molina "ship had sailed." So there's that.

 

[SFAnthem]

I know why, and it's the right call, but still a shame. He was my favorite Giant of this era. I'll always root for him.

same here

He pitched in the toughest of games and left everything he had on the line to get that first ring. His persona was the backbone of the Giants bullpen swagger.

 

[calsnowskier]

same here

He pitched in the toughest of games and left everything he had on the line to get that first ring. His persona was the backbone of the Giants bullpen swagger.

I compare him to Nen. They both left their arm on the mound in an attempt to win a ring. Wilson was successful, Nen was not.

While I would love to keep him around, it just doesn't make sense. The giants need to move on.

 

[Mays-Fan]

In watching (and re-watching) the MLBTV World Series movie, no one was more excited in the celebrations than him when we won. It will be sad to see him go.

But we are bigger than any one player.

 

[msgkings322]

same here

He pitched in the toughest of games and left everything he had on the line to get that first ring. His persona was the backbone of the Giants bullpen swagger.

He was also hilarious. The game needs more personalities like his, or Nyjer Morgan, or Nick Swisher. Goofballs.

 

[SFGRTB]

He was also hilarious. The game needs more personalities like his, or Nyjer Morgan, or Nick Swisher. Goofballs.

More guys like this:

After this?:

I wouldn't call that goofball.

 

[Heathbar012]

More guys like this:

After this?:

I wouldn't call that goofball.

Neither would I... but I still laughed.

 

[msgkings322]

Neither would I... but I still laughed.

Precisely. That incident wasn't goofball, but Tony Plush is for sure.

 

[SFGRTB]

Wow, boards dead. No one brought up the Upton trade yet. J.Up going to the Braves in exchange for Martin Prado, and youth. D-Backs actually have a very balanced lineup now, unlike the strikeout machine it was just a couple years ago.

Atlanta, on the other hand, is going to have one of the best OFs in the game with the Upton brothers playing with each other now. But they will be going for the Diamondback's MLB team record for strikeouts in a season.

Braves Acquire Justin Upton: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

 

[SFAnthem]

Wow, boards dead. No one brought up the Upton trade yet. J.Up going to the Braves in exchange for Martin Prado, and youth. D-Backs actually have a very balanced lineup now, unlike the strikeout machine it was just a couple years ago.

Atlanta, on the other hand, is going to have one of the best OFs in the game with the Upton brothers playing with each other now. But they will be going for the Diamondback's MLB team record for strikeouts in a season.

Braves Acquire Justin Upton: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

niner fever man

a motivated Upton OF is dangerous indeed

 

[SFGRTB]

niner fever man

a motivated Upton OF is dangerous indeed

And I am hot with it too but dayumn, I figured a mention at least. But yes, Braves will be very dangerous next year. They are a very balanced offensive unit and obviously their pitching has been fantastic.

 

[SFGRTB]

Precisely. That incident wasn't goofball, but Tony Plush is for sure.

BayStars Sign Nyjer Morgan: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com