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[OregonDucks]

Yup.

WWE really decided to listen to the fans and give them what they wanted.

An fucking Authority storyline.

It's a women's division Authority angle that we have already seen before with Bryan, CM Punk, SCSA.

 

[The Q]

It's a women's division Authority angle that we have already seen before with Bryan, CM Punk, SCSA.

So they know it will work. No matter how unbelievable it may be.

 

[OregonDucks]

So they know it will work. No matter how unbelievable it may be.

It may work, but it's such a recycled storyline. Check the ratings to see how invested people really are and also check ticket sales to RAW to see how invested people are. Fact is everything is down. There is nothing captivating about the product right now. The mens division is awful with no top face and no top heel, Lesnar is around a few times every few months and is champion .

If they are going to keep doing recycled story lines I would prefer something else besides the authority angle.

I've always wanted to see Vince bring back the WCW brand, maybe do so with Shane being the "Owner" and have them invade Smackdown and eventually over taking Smackdown so that Smackdown turns into WCW and eventually lead to another invasion angle where WCW tries to invade RAW.

 

[The Q]

This is more “the man” than anything about Becky

 

[The Q]

It may work, but it's such a recycled storyline. Check the ratings to see how invested people really are and also check ticket sales to RAW to see how invested people are. Fact is everything is down. There is nothing captivating about the product right now. The mens division is awful with no top face and no top heel, Lesnar is around a few times every few months and is champion .

If they are going to keep doing recycled story lines I would prefer something else besides the authority angle.

I've always wanted to see Vince bring back the WCW brand, maybe do so with Shane being the "Owner" and have them invade Smackdown and eventually over taking Smackdown so that Smackdown turns into WCW and eventually lead to another invasion angle where WCW tries to invade RAW.

So basically what bischoff wanted to eventually do with the nwo?

 

[Judge Fudge]

It may work, but it's such a recycled storyline. Check the ratings to see how invested people really are and also check ticket sales to RAW to see how invested people are. Fact is everything is down. There is nothing captivating about the product right now. The mens division is awful with no top face and no top heel, Lesnar is around a few times every few months and is champion .

If they are going to keep doing recycled story lines I would prefer something else besides the authority angle.

I've always wanted to see Vince bring back the WCW brand, maybe do so with Shane being the "Owner" and have them invade Smackdown and eventually over taking Smackdown so that Smackdown turns into WCW and eventually lead to another invasion angle where WCW tries to invade RAW.

I think it is the combination of two things that are affecting the ratings.

A) AEW. I think alot, me included, are quite interested in this product and the new Wrestlers ,hell I have seen 2 Kenny matches, that are involved. They seem to be the buzz everyday.

B) We quit playing chicken and flipped a " Ueee" and driving back to safety while WWE is driving dangerously towards the cliff's edge.

Now is the WWE flipping a u- turn. Maybe, doubt it but maybe. If it was a full u turn they WOULD AND SHOULD HAVE continued the Balor/Vince storyline and make him the top face and Vince to the top heel ( like 1998) but we are the Minions and their the Master

 

[OregonDucks]

I think it is the combination of two things that are affecting the ratings.

A) AEW. I think alot, me included, are quite interested in this product and the new Wrestlers ,hell I have seen 2 Kenny matches, that are involved. They seem to be the buzz everyday.

B) We quit playing chicken and flipped a " Ueee" and driving back to safety while WWE is driving dangerously towards the cliff's edge.

Now is the WWE flipping a u- turn. Maybe, doubt it but maybe. If it was a full u turn they WOULD AND SHOULD HAVE continued the Balor/Vince storyline and make him the top face and Vince to the top heel ( like 1998) but we are the Minions and their the Master

As far as I am aware AEW has had one event and that was some mega house show? I've seen Kenny Omega in NJPW and the dude is really really good, but haven't seen him in the AEW, but I haven't seen anything related to AEW because I didn't know they put on any show except that one.

At first AEW is going to attract the smarks, it is going to need to cut into main stream and their best chance of doing that is either grabbing a top star or two in the WWE, grabbing some star athlete, and promoting the crap out of its product in mainstream sports, probably a combination of all. They are going to need to create a big splash early on to gain early recognition and momentum, otherwise I could see them being like ROH. Popular amongst the smarks, but to anyone outside of wrestling world they have no idea.

 

[RobToxin]

This is more “the man” than anything about Becky

I am so glad someone with intelligence stepped up and heel turned her back where she belongs.

She's a Flair. Being heel is her pedigree.

 

[Toadman005]

I am so glad someone with intelligence stepped up and heel turned her back where she belongs.

She's a Flair. Being heel is her pedigree.

Agreed, she is a fantastic heel. She's not a face.

 

[The Q]

I am so glad someone with intelligence stepped up and heel turned her back where she belongs.

She's a Flair. Being heel is her pedigree.

Agreed, she is a fantastic heel. She's not a face.

Flair so only good face run that I can recall was against the greatest heel ever: the nwo

 

[Toadman005]

Flair so only good face run that I can recall was against the greatest heel ever: the nwo

Agreed, and even then I saw it more as a battle of two different heel factions only flare was the southern heel so they backed him because he was "our guy"

 

[The Q]

Agreed, and even then I saw it more as a battle of two different heel factions only flare was the southern heel so they backed him because he was "our guy"

Well he was wcw against the invaders.

The faces of fear were faces after nwo showed up too.

 

[Toadman005]

Well he was wcw against the invaders.

The faces of fear were faces after nwo showed up too.

Yep. God I miss those days. The n.W.o invasion was the best story in wrestling, ever.

 

[The Q]

Yep. God I miss those days. The n.W.o invasion was the best story in wrestling, ever.

Without a doubt.

Nothing else even comes remotely close.

And (most importantly) it finally got people to see Sting as one of the very premier talents in pro wrestling, period. Not just WCW. He was in the very small top handful in the entire industry.

 

[DefCONNOne]

Yep. God I miss those days. The n.W.o invasion was the best story in wrestling, ever.

Sure it was....until November 30th, 1996. After that.....dead, dead, dead!!

 

[The Q]

Sure it was....until November 30th, 1996. After that.....dead, dead, dead!!

Now you dislike sting??

 

[Judge Fudge]

Sure it was....until November 30th, 1996. After that.....dead, dead, dead!!

Read a review and ya. It stunk but.....

This is when it died IMO

 

[Zoop]

Do I make you horny?

 

[DefCONNOne]

Now you dislike sting??

Do you even know what happened on that date? Judging by this post, you don't.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Do you even know what happened on that date? Judging by this post, you don't.

I can't believe that WCW CREATIVE let Bevis and Butthead do that stupid shit that night