Official Raw thread

[Tubbs1518]

Correct, I didn't watch NXT, but what does that have to do with this? I didn't watch Reigns in NXT either. Is my opinion that he still isn't ready to be the #1 guy wrong?

Except you are grossly underrating KO ruthlessness. It looks like based on Raw so far thay they are going to get him back to that. And it's going to be amazing.

 

[ManuForever]

I can't see Roman not winning the title tonight, to be honest. Why have him lose via interference and have the ratings drip lower? It seems like the same old shit, if that's the case. If he loses clean? He gets "fired" which means he'll be off TV for a few weeks maybe. They can't really afford that with all the absences they already have. Seems dumb to fire someone for one week, have them intrude on the show next week and then get re-hired in time to appear on Tribute to the Troops, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN TAPED.

I dunno what to believe. I wanna believe that tonight is the night, because what better way to improve ratings than have a WWE Title change on your main show after nearly 3 years of not having one?

 

[anotheridiot]

The match yesterday was really good. One point, Sheamus was climbing the ladder, Reigns hit him with a super punch, knocked him off the ladder and thru a table.

I can see Ryback and Swagger sticking around tonite, with Ambrose and stopping the interference. HHH upset with Vince that Reigns got the title on his watch.

 

[jeffro151]

So we are supposed to believe that should Roman lose and be "fired", he would still be on ESPN tomorrow representing WWE? Ok.

 

[anotheridiot]

wow, he really brought it. best match on raw of the year.

 

[ManuForever]

So we are supposed to believe that should Roman lose and be "fired", he would still be on ESPN tomorrow representing WWE? Ok.

They probably won't "fire" him next week but I wouldn't be shocked if they stripped him of it cause he hit Vince.

wow, he really brought it. best match on raw of the year.

I wouldn't go that far. Best moment, definitely.

 

[anotheridiot]

nobody will be fired next week since Raw is the annual slammy show. HHH is on his annual three week vacation with his family for christmas. The only current given now is Cena wins the rumble to get the wrestlemania title match.

 

[anotheridiot]

and its not the superman punch that was the worst part with Vince, it was booting him off the ring when he climbed the ropes in the corner vince was in. It took a long time, but you gotta admit, HHH and Vince had a plan and clearly held back until Roman was ready for it.

 

[Tubbs1518]

nobody will be fired next week since Raw is the annual slammy show. HHH is on his annual three week vacation with his family for christmas. The only current given now is Cena wins the rumble to get the wrestlemania title match.

I highly doubt it's Cena/Reigns at WM. Everyone has been talking up Cena/Taker as the most likely scenario. I'd say either Reigns/HHH, Reigns/Ambrose or Reigns/Lesnar.

 

[anotheridiot]

I highly doubt it's Cena/Reigns at WM. Everyone has been talking up Cena/Taker as the most likely scenario. I'd say either Reigns/HHH, Reigns/Ambrose or Reigns/Lesnar.

I am not sure Reigns will have the belt for a Cena match at WM. I can see Lesnar winning it before WM and Cena beating Lesnar after losing to him 4 times for #16. I dont think they will miss that opportunity in front of 100k. But then again, if they did ask Cena to come back and he refused, who knows where he stands. Look at what they allowed Reigns to do to HHH and Vince for his coronation. Reigns continues this FU tour, he wont hold it too long, though he will probably win it back.

 

[Tubbs1518]

I am not sure Reigns will have the belt for a Cena match at WM. I can see Lesnar winning it before WM and Cena beating Lesnar after losing to him 4 times for #16. I dont think they will miss that opportunity in front of 100k. But then again, if they did ask Cena to come back and he refused, who knows where he stands. Look at what they allowed Reigns to do to HHH and Vince for his coronation. Reigns continues this FU tour, he wont hold it too long, though he will probably win it back.

If they don't let Reigns hold it till at least a big PPV so him and Rollins can square off for it, WWE has missed a huge huge opportunity. Next WM is honestly how long Reigns should hold it.

 

[anotheridiot]

I dont know, didnt Heyman offer Brock Lesnar to fix a problem for HHH last year? I mean are you really gonna let Rollins get a title shot right when he returns?

I was honestly more impressed with Sheamus in ring performance against Reigns. I think all the league of nations will get a match with Reigns, wont doubt if HHH makes his own world title challenge every match, and using Smackdown to USA being live on tuesdays as well.

 

[wildturkey]

If he walked up to me out of the blue and got in my face, you damn right I'd give it right back to him. The reason I don't consider him a legit heavyweight is the same reason you don't see men of the same build as he in boxing, MMA or UFC.

Roy Nelson

 

[Tubbs1518]

Roy Nelson

I was thinking the same thing. Butterbean has boxed for a long long time too.

 

[jeffro151]

Roy Nelson

Has a 20-11 record, and isn't considered a good fighter.

 

[jeffro151]

I was thinking the same thing. Butterbean has boxed for a long long time too.

Yeah, Butterbean has boxed for a long time, but do you consider him one of the best? I certainly do not.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Of all the unrealistic things in wrestling, guys getting hit with sledgehammers in the head and not dying, people with supernatural connections, EVERYTHING that they do and his weight is what bothers you? He's no bigger than Bray Wyatt who causes destruction that I doubt you have an issue with. Saying he isn't believable because his weight and body build is asinine.

 

[jeffro151]

Of all the unrealistic things in wrestling, guys getting hit with sledgehammers in the head and not dying, people with supernatural connections, EVERYTHING that they do and his weight is what bothers you? He's no bigger than Bray Wyatt who causes destruction that I doubt you have an issue with. Saying he isn't believable because his weight and body build is asinine.

I very much have a problem with Bray Wyatt being considered one of the top heavyweights.

 

[Tubbs1518]

That is ridiculous too. What about Daniel Bryan? Have a problem with him?

 

[jeffro151]

That is ridiculous too. What about Daniel Bryan? Have a problem with him?

Not as much as I do with Owens and Wyatt.