Official Mariners arm-chair GM offseason thread 2018-2019

[ulmax]

lol- you should be working for the M's organization as a "scout". You probably know more about what's out there than anyone else on their payroll.

things are not as bad as they seem..sometimes..but ya need the good trades not the bad ones
and ya need to fill a few holes in the minors


but..ahh sometimes ya need to beat the ...vultures away

 

[ulmax]

this was the last guy on that trade....the big ten relief guy of the year last year........................................yeah..........that guy is a vulture

Joey Gerber..
mariners #8 round draft choice..2018

 

[ulmax]

mariners need to trade some bull pen guys .....but........not give them away...for something they dont need..cuz

diez
colome
armstrong
pazos....LHP

vincent
nicasio

elias...LHP
hernandez
that is 8 guys
...................................
altavilla
tuivailala...prob will not trade
bradford
festa...prob will not trade
warren
rumiblow
that is 6 more guys

that is a lot of bull pen guy's...that could include .........ramirez ......as well

and heredia is a mlb CF guy..he is just a bench guy...which is ok...when they use him right

 

[ulmax]

they dont..... have.... to trade any of them....even above they can send pazos down

and have ramirez out of the rotation

 

[ulmax]

a guy at the dodgers AA that is interesting if they dont put him on the 40 man....from gonzaga...and missoula

Andrew Sopko 19 P
Tulsa Drillers

• Double-A | Texas League
• MLB Parent Club: Los Angeles Dodgers

• Status: Active
• Full Name: Andrew Philip Sopko
• Age: 24 (August 7, 1994)
• Birthplace: Missoula, MT
• ....................................................................
• Bats/Throws: R/R Ht: 6' 2" Wt: 205
• Draft: Round 7 (2015, LAD
• ....................................................................

 

[seahawksfan234]

Seattle Mariners: Kevin Kiermaier, Mike Zunino deal would make sense for M’s, Rays

Thoughts???

You know it has been a long fucking day when I'm having difficulty expressing my thoughts regarding this idea.

These might be covered in the article (I haven't read it yet) but there are a few things that come to mind:

1. What do the Mariners do with Dee Gordon? I believe @PolarVortex mentioned that Gordon and/or Segura will probably be shipped off this offseason due to the tension between them, but if that isn't the case I'm actually quite comfortable with Dee Gordon at CF and Robinson Cano playing 2B for another season before shifting to 1B.

2. Who replaces Zunino at catcher? I know it's easy to look at Zunino consistently hovering around .200 over the duration of his career and consider him to be a subpar player, but using WAR as a metric, Zunino grades as the 10th best catcher in MLB. Of the 9 players ranked above him, only Willson Contreras and J.T. Realmuto are younger than Zunino. With the Mariners' "payroll constrictions" it's hard to imagine that we can scrabble together a catching situation that outproduces Zunino in terms of offensive output and defensive value combined.

Zunino is no world beater, but there is a compelling argument that he is an average to above average catcher.

I think that by trading for Kevin Kiermaier you fill one hole and just create another one without adding substantial value overall IMO.

One of the shitty things about trying to evaluate any trade is that we don't know if Cano will be playing 1B or 2B, if Gordon will be at CF or 2B, if Gordon will be on the team, who the DH will be, etc.

I honestly don't know what this franchise should do right now. We're really hamstringed with Cano, Felix and Seager tying up $71.3m and baseball's worst farm system.

 

[ulmax]

if they do not put him on the 40 man ...ya might be able to get him ...for oohhh....idk...a bull pen guy??..lol

 

[ulmax]

2018 Mariners Exit Interviews: The Young Bucks (Ages 24-26)

Mariners Exit Interviews 2018: The Middle Agers (29-30)

 

[ulmax]

Diamondbacks sign former Twin Eduardo Escobar

well he is off the table...3 years 21 mil

this makes me want to trade for him.lol

Indians pitcher Mike Clevinger’s ‘not that special’ Astros comment will live on forever

 

[ulmax]

with gilbert coming to play... and carlson coming off of TJ...will add more ...but dutton is stiil right

Mariners Moose Tracks, 10/24/18: Evan White, Brian DeLunas, and Mark McGwire

 

[ulmax]

totaly worth the last post of the day for me ...sorry guys..lol.

.https://marinersblog.mlblogs.com/mariners-2018-season-in-review-dd78f862e818?sf94055424=1

INNINGS EATERS…five Mariners pitchers worked at least 150.0 innings in 2018…Mike Leake led the club with 185.2 innings, followed by Marco Gonzales (166.2), Wade LeBlanc (162.0), James Paxton (160.1) and Félix Hernández (155.2)…the Mariners were the only club in the Major Leagues this season to have 5 pitchers work at least 150.0 innings…marked only the 5th time in club history to accomplish this feat as the 2018 squad joined the Mariners clubs of 1991 (Rich DeLucia, Erik Hanson, Brian Holman, Randy Johnson, Bill Krueger), 1993 (Chris Bosio, Dave Fleming, Erik Hanson, Randy Johnson, Tim Leary), 2003 (Ryan Franklin, Freddy García, Gil Meche, Jamie Moyer, Joel Piñeiro) and 2006 (Félix Hernández, Gil Meche, Jamie Moyer, Joel Piñeiro, Jarrod Washburn).

 

[ulmax]

sorry one more

Guillermo Heredia was 1 of 5 qualifying outfielders in the Major Leagues to compile a 1.000 fielding percentage


so much for guy from tampa...who was he aaahhh....lol

 

[wazzu31]

You know it has been a long fucking day when I'm having difficulty expressing my thoughts regarding this idea.

These might be covered in the article (I haven't read it yet) but there are a few things that come to mind:

1. What do the Mariners do with Dee Gordon? I believe @PolarVortex mentioned that Gordon and/or Segura will probably be shipped off this offseason due to the tension between them, but if that isn't the case I'm actually quite comfortable with Dee Gordon at CF and Robinson Cano playing 2B for another season before shifting to 1B.

2. Who replaces Zunino at catcher? I know it's easy to look at Zunino consistently hovering around .200 over the duration of his career and consider him to be a subpar player, but using WAR as a metric, Zunino grades as the 10th best catcher in MLB. Of the 9 players ranked above him, only Willson Contreras and J.T. Realmuto are younger than Zunino. With the Mariners' "payroll constrictions" it's hard to imagine that we can scrabble together a catching situation that outproduces Zunino in terms of offensive output and defensive value combined.

Zunino is no world beater, but there is a compelling argument that he is an average to above average catcher.

I think that by trading for Kevin Kiermaier you fill one hole and just create another one without adding substantial value overall IMO.

One of the shitty things about trying to evaluate any trade is that we don't know if Cano will be playing 1B or 2B, if Gordon will be at CF or 2B, if Gordon will be on the team, who the DH will be, etc.

I honestly don't know what this franchise should do right now. We're really hamstringed with Cano, Felix and Seager tying up $71.3m and baseball's worst farm system.

With Seager and Healy there isn’t a realistic ability for Cano to play 1B. No matter what metric or analytics say, rotating Cano between 2B, 1B and DH is a terrible idea. He’s not Ben Zobrist or another one those type of guys. Cano at DH, makes sense but if they are willing to keep a tradeable asset like Healy to only put Cano at DH then it makes no franchise or business sense. Just resign Cruz and ship Healy out if they want Cano at 1B. No matter how terrible they are next year they won’t be getting a top 10 pick with so many organizations tanking still. Cruz being back won’t push them into the playoffs but Healy can fetch something, Cruz can’t.

 

[wazzu31]

Kiermaier makes a ton of sense for the Mariners and I'm for moving Zunino while he even has a little bit of value.

I can’t agree with this. The Mariners can’t afford Cruz but would force themselves into overpaying for a FA catcher? Counter productive IMO. I’d rather they spend the money they get from not signing Cruz on putting that type of money into eating Seager’s contract in a trade or Dee in a trade.

My issue, as it appears as most, either spend money on going all in or spend money and doing a legitimate rebuild. They have twice the money they can spend to erase contracts that other teams such as the Astros, White Sox, Cubs, Twins etc when they tore it down to the studs. Their ownership group is wealthy as hell and if they were semi smart they’d get Bezo’s involved in ownership or get Amazon involved with streaming their and minor league games over Facebook.

 

[ulmax]

+ heredia+ span+gamel+haniger

works for me..any of them could help DH..so its all good

 

[SeattleCoug]

I can’t agree with this. The Mariners can’t afford Cruz but would force themselves into overpaying for a FA catcher? Counter productive IMO. I’d rather they spend the money they get from not signing Cruz on putting that type of money into eating Seager’s contract in a trade or Dee in a trade.

My issue, as it appears as most, either spend money on going all in or spend money and doing a legitimate rebuild. They have twice the money they can spend to erase contracts that other teams such as the Astros, White Sox, Cubs, Twins etc when they tore it down to the studs. Their ownership group is wealthy as hell and if they were semi smart they’d get Bezo’s involved in ownership or get Amazon involved with streaming their and minor league games over Facebook.

They can afford Cruz but honestly do we even know he wants to be back? Spending money isn't my issue. Just spend it smarter. Instead of spending over $18 million on Dee Gordon and Juan Nicasio, spend that on a fucking starter which everyone knew was a need. I'm in the camp of not adding more bad contracts but we just keep adding new ones every year and this team still isn't going anywhere. As for who plays catcher, I'm not sure. I'd be ok with a guy like Maldanado

 

[wazzu31]

They can afford Cruz but honestly do we even know he wants to be back? Spending money isn't my issue. Just spend it smarter. Instead of spending over $18 million on Dee Gordon and Juan Nicasio, spend that on a fucking starter which everyone knew was a need. I'm in the camp of not adding more bad contracts but we just keep adding new ones every year and this team still isn't going anywhere. As for who plays catcher, I'm not sure. I'd be ok with a guy like Maldanado

Spending it smarter is definitely the goal as a fan, just guess my issue would be whatever money they put into a veteran catcher could go to Cruz and then they can trade Healy. They need help but Jerry has put them in a bind where Lewis, White and probably Haniger have to go to get their prospect pool decent enough to field a team by 2020 that isn’t a highly paid 2014 Houston Astros.

 

[ulmax]

ncaa stats toughest to strike out.......bobby honeyman is #2 on the list

Clayton Andrews, Long Beach St. (Big West) 1 Jr. OF 57 215 6 35.8
Bobby Honeyman, Stony Brook (America East) 2 Sr. INF 57 211 7 30.1
Clayton Daniel, Jacksonville St. (OVC) 3 Sr. INF 57 255 10 25.5
Adan Ordonez, N.C. A&T (MEAC) 4 Sr. C 51 174 7 24.9
Ryan Ward, Bryant (NEC) 5 Fr. OF 56 247 10 24.7
John Valente, St. John's (NY) (Big East) 6 Sr. INF 56 236 11 21.5
Ryan Kemp, Middle Tenn. (C-USA) 7 Sr. 2B 43 165 8 20.6
Will Brennan, Kansas St. (Big 12) 8 So. OF 54 220 11 20.0
Josh Shaw, St. John's (NY) (Big East) 9 Jr. INF 57 231 13 17.8
Michael Coritz, Navy (Patriot) 10 So. INF 53 152 9 16.9
J.T. O'Reel, Alabama A&M (SWAC) 11 Sr. INF 49 185 11 16.8
Grant Williams, Kennesaw St. (ASUN) 12 Sr. INF 55 214 13 16.5
Marshawn Taylor, Grambling (SWAC) 13 Sr. INF 52 218 14 15.6
Eli Boggess, Morehead St. (OVC) 14 Sr. INF 51 215 14 15.4
Zachary Ardito, Hartford (America East) 15 So. INF 55 193 13 14.8

Maaki Yamazaki, Hawaii (Big West) 16 Jr. INF 51 191 13 1

maaki yamaZAKI..ss from hawaii..and japan...totaly draftable in june..and an under the radar type of guy

INFIELDER 6'0" 185 LBS
2
MAAKI YAMAZAKI

the other guy to talk about when talking hawaii baseball is

RIGHT-HANDED PITCHER 6'4" 195 LBS
23
DYLAN THOMAS

he totally killed it in the cape cod league this summer...after being injured in spring
dylan will be drafted high

 

[ulmax]

an other guy to keep an eye on from hawaii baseball is OF/1B


OUTFIELDER/FIRST BASE 6'5" 205 LBS
18 R/R
ADAM FOGEL
also totaly draftable
stats
Player ............. avg gp-gs ab r h 2b 3b ........hr rbi tb slg% bb hbp so gdp ob% sf sh sb-att po a e fld%
Yamazaki, Maaki .325 51-51 191 34 62 10 0 ....2 19 78 .408 26 2 13 5 .409 1 6 2-7 69 157 10 ............958
Vchulek, Dylan .308 45-43 133 21 41 3 0 ........ 0.. 9 44 .331 18 1 23 0 .392 1 10 4-6 105 0 1 ................991
Fogel, Adam .......296 51-51 196 29 58 17 2 .....8 37 103 .526 24 2 43 6 .378 0 0 1-3 118 3 5 ...............960 fld pct

 

[ulmax]

two more guys on the hard to strike out list..around #40 on the list ernie yake..C/3b from gonzaga




Ernie Yake, Gonzaga (WCC) 39 Fr. INF 56 236 20 11.8
Freddie Zamora, Miami (FL) (ACC) 40 Fr. INF 54 211 18 11.7
Scott Dubrule, Jacksonville (ASUN) 41 So. INF 61 244 21 11.6
Michael Perri, San Francisco (WCC) 42 Sr. INF 58 232 20 11.6
Nick Campana, Hartford (America East) 43 Sr. OF 54 208 18 11.6
Trevor Howell, Utah Valley (WAC) 43 Jr. INF 52 208 18 11.6
Ryan Flores, Incarnate Word (Southland) 45 Fr. INF 44 161 14 11.5
Matt Cogen, Belmont (OVC)

15ERNIE YAKE..L/L.....from bellingham


inf
Joshua Zamora, Nevada (MWC) 80..YEAH AT THE #80 HARDEST
U NAVADA

INF 5'11" 170 LBS
8 r/r
JOSHUA ZAMORA..HE IS A RISING STAR