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[Sportster 72]

... and the report I heard in the car is wrong. They said compound fracture. Injury isn't good but glad to hear it was a complete break of his leg.

 

[Sharkinva]

... and the report I heard in the car is wrong. They said compound fracture. Injury isn't good but glad to hear it was a complete break of his leg.

IM hearing dislocation and an ACL, surgery within the next few days. Teddy B's season is over in all likelihood.

 

[gkekoa]

Agree with most of this, Brown is another good example. Regarding Rice I never bought the theory that a 27 year old RB was done after only one off year and after playing only 6 seasons. Teams simply do not write off 27 year old Pro Bowl players after only one bad year, someone always is ready to give them a look. No he was blackballed.

Back to Gordon let's not forget our own Tanard Jackson who is proof that multiple offenders get very harsh sentences including the death penalty. Unless you are Josh Gordan apparently. He has done everything possible to get a longer ban.

I thought the owners were going to strip Roger of his duty of handing out punish!emt, what happened there?

Rice wasn't blackballed. Teams just didn't want the headache. Also, the year before he sucked badly.

 

[Sportster 72]

Yes that is what I read when I researched which is what I should have done before posting. Czabe on ESPN 980 (who is a moron) was repeating he had a displacement fracture when I was driving home last night.

The injury is bad but IMO not as bad as a displacement fracture. He will miss this entire year.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Rice wasn't blackballed. Teams just didn't want the headache. Also, the year before he sucked badly.

What is the difference between "not wanting the headache" and being blackballed? Bottom line is every team in the league unilaterally decided not to sign a 27 yer old All Pro after only one off year that could very well be explained by OL issues.

In a league where 42 year old Shaun Alexander got a look and Greg Hardy (among others with a terrible past ) got new deals it should be obvious that the word was out to not touch Ray Rice. The only difference between Ray Rice and Brandon Marshall, who did far worse multiple times, was there was video of Rice which magically made his crime worse than a multiple ofender. That of course is complete bullshit.

 

[apachef4]

What is the difference between "not wanting the headache" and being blackballed? Bottom line is every team in the league unilaterally decided not to sign a 27 yer old All Pro after only one off year that could very well be explained by OL issues.

In a league where 42 year old Shaun Alexander got a look and Greg Hardy (among others with a terrible past ) got new deals it should be obvious that the word was out to not touch Ray Rice. The only difference between Ray Rice and Brandon Marshall, who did far worse multiple times, was there was video of Rice which magically made his crime worse than a multiple ofender. That of course is complete bullshit.

I think it comes down to if it is all the teams/owners colluding to make sure he doesn't get a chance, or if all of the teams separately come to the decision that they don't want to sign him. I have no idea if he was blackballed or not, though I do have a hard time believing that no one would even have a look-see. It's not like the NFL hasn't colluded before...if anyone knows that, it's us and the Boys with the cap penalties.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Jiminy Crickets

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Oh my...

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I think it comes down to if it is all the teams/owners colluding to make sure he doesn't get a chance, or if all of the teams separately come to the decision that they don't want to sign him. I have no idea if he was blackballed or not, though I do have a hard time believing that no one would even have a look-see. It's not like the NFL hasn't colluded before...if anyone knows that, it's us and the Boys with the cap penalties.

Exactly. I am in no way excusing Rice's behavior. But he has already paid the price and looking at other players who have been given second and third chances for multiple incidents I really believe Rice was treated unfairly and it was a concerted decision made between all the teams.

 

[gkekoa]

What is the difference between "not wanting the headache" and being blackballed? Bottom line is every team in the league unilaterally decided not to sign a 27 yer old All Pro after only one off year that could very well be explained by OL issues.

In a league where 42 year old Shaun Alexander got a look and Greg Hardy (among others with a terrible past ) got new deals it should be obvious that the word was out to not touch Ray Rice. The only difference between Ray Rice and Brandon Marshall, who did far worse multiple times, was there was video of Rice which magically made his crime worse than a multiple ofender. That of course is complete bullshit.

27 year old former pro bowler...emphasize former. Rice could barely beat out Bernard Pierce who may not even be in the league any longer.


Did you not see the uproar? Teams didn't want the head ache because there was extremely damning video evidence. Show me what Marshall did. I know his wife pulled a knife on him and he defended himself. She is crazy and he is literally bipolar.

 

[Sharkinva]

Exactly. I am in no way excusing Rice's behavior. But he has already paid the price and looking at other players who have been given second and third chances for multiple incidents I really believe Rice was treated unfairly and it was a concerted decision made between all the teams.

At the risk of sounding like chauvinist pig..... Rice to a degree shouldnt need to defend his actions. She attacked him, multiple times. IM kinda getting tired of this double standard where a woman can kick, punch, slap or otherwise do violence to a man and he is not allowed to even defend himself. I think Hardy's issues are much worse than Rice. If she is going to step to him like a man, she should at minimum expect him to defend himself.

 

[gkekoa]

I agree with your stance Shark; however, I can understand the backlash.

 

[Sharkinva]

I agree with your stance Shark; however, I can understand the backlash.

OH I understand the backlash. But I still think its bullshit. Had a man slapped a woman, followed her into an enclosed space, then lunged at her in a confined space to attack, she could have shot him between the eyes and it would be ruled self defense. And most women, and too many men would have painted her as a saint.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Like I said I am not going to defend Ray Rice. Even after being attacked you never hit a woman, then treat her like an inconvenience and drag her out of the elevator. But again this league will always sign a former star just to see. Shawn Alexander, Willie Parker, etc got looks and they were not 27 years old. Chris Fucking Cooley got a look years after his last productive season. To assume every team in the league considered him washed up and not even worth a tryout at 27 after one bad year is nonsense.

As for Brandon Marshall it was not one incident of self defense, it was 8 incidents of domestic violence (he was helped when the victims failed to press charges) as well as too many other incidents to count including firing a gun at his own dad.

Brandon Marshall has had complicated history with domestic violence

A timeline of Marshall's off-field problems

 

[Sharkinva]

DGF.. I guess we come from different schools of thought. I agree you never attack a woman. And had he punched her from jump, or continued to press it after she went down.. I would say he was dead wrong. BUt taking the whole thing into account, he tried to walk away, she followed him into the elevator and continued to press it. From your view he should have curled into a ball and just let her beat him until they got to their floor.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Ruzious]

He and Richard Pryor were the most unlikely duo but so freaking funny. Great in Doctor Frankenstein too. That hold cast made that movie though.

I vaguely remember watching Young Frankenstein 25 plus years ago and thinking - This is the funniest movie ever. Gotta watch it again and see if it holds up.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[Breed]

DGF.. I guess we come from different schools of thought. I agree you never attack a woman. And had he punched her from jump, or continued to press it after she went down.. I would say he was dead wrong. BUt taking the whole thing into account, he tried to walk away, she followed him into the elevator and continued to press it. From your view he should have curled into a ball and just let her beat him until they got to their floor.

Well its good to know you think a man kickin ass on a women who's stone cold knocked the fuck out is a bad look. On the forilla, you don't knock your wife the fuck out, especially in public, ever. But if you do. You damn sure don't drag carry her ass like a corpse off the elevator onto a floor. You ride the elevator till the wheels fall off if necessary and when she comes to and asks you. WTF happened and why does her head and her jaw feel like she went 10 rounds with Holly Holm and she was Ronda Rousey. You say some shit like, damn babe. You don't remember what happened? Just as I was telling you to stop dragging your feet or take off your heels. You did a 1 and a half gainer w/o the 1 and fell right on your face. I just knew you were gonna have a broken jaw, but you got a solid chin. Now lets go to the room and you can work that jawbone out giving me a hummer in the shower. And when she looks at you like, "You can suck my dick in the shower, ass0." That's when you hit her up for your real agenda and say, "Alright then, at lest soap up my nuts though as your hands are fine. You didn't use them to break your fall or nothing."

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Breed hit the nail on the head. There was a video of some rapper, forgot who, and he did what you do when a bitch goes crazy on you. What you do is try to calm her down as you avoid the hits. What you do NOT do is cold cock her, then as we both mentioned, show no remorse as you drag her across the floor like an inconvenient sack of potatoes you have just dropped.