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No Mystery Why the Phillies Have Been Losing

jvett77

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The commentators say they don't understand why the Phillies have been losing. Here's why, dummies:

- Brown had become a clown, hitting .256 in April and .146 in May with his obp going from .320 to .200.
- Lee has been out and may never be the same if he comes back. Young callups have been bad.
- Burnett's ERA is .440, ballooning from last year's .330
- Asche was .161 in April but hit .317 in May until his progress was interrupted with an injury.
- Howard went from .247 in April to .206 in May and his obp declined 40 points to .274 in May.
- Gwynn is a zero in the batter's box.
- Revere should be at lead off. Youth first not JRol. His hitting is all fucked up from being jerked around.
- Byrd, rollins, revere, utley, and ruiz have been steady.

The Phillies will not put many wins together until the slackers perform. Dump Gwynn and bring up .340 OF Cameron Perkins for a shot to push Brown.
 

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It is pretty simple jvett but you know who is simply blind.
 

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Difficult to have a youth movement when we simply do not have a ready supply of talented youths to bring in.
 

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I like the two Utes they got on the first day of the draft
 

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I agree Cedrique. Two utes/yutes that may survive the Phillies seasoning to actually have successful careers.
 

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The commentators say they don't understand why the Phillies have been losing. Here's why, dummies:

- Brown had become a clown, hitting .256 in April and .146 in May with his obp going from .320 to .200.
- Lee has been out and may never be the same if he comes back. Young callups have been bad.
- Burnett's ERA is .440, ballooning from last year's .330
- Asche was .161 in April but hit .317 in May until his progress was interrupted with an injury.
- Howard went from .247 in April to .206 in May and his obp declined 40 points to .274 in May.
- Gwynn is a zero in the batter's box.
- Revere should be at lead off. Youth first not JRol. His hitting is all fucked up from being jerked around.
- Byrd, rollins, revere, utley, and ruiz have been steady.

The Phillies will not put many wins together until the slackers perform. Dump Gwynn and bring up .340 OF Cameron Perkins for a shot to push Brown.

I'd be ecstatic if one of my team's starting pitchers had a .44 ERA.
 

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I'd be ecstatic if one of my team's starting pitchers had a .44 ERA.

Lol reminds me of a friend who got pulled over for a DUI and told his parents he blew a .4 instead of a .04 (he was under 21)
 

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Wait, I thought if the veterans stayed healthy this was a 90+ win team....
 

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Wait, I thought if the veterans stayed healthy this was a 90+ win team....

It has nothing to do with vets. It's too many player-months lost
 

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Rollins actually deserves to be leading off this year. He has a .348 OBP and leads the team in walks. Revere on the other hand has a .298 OBP. Over 600 PAs that's 30 additional times on base. I don't care if Revere is faster if that speed doesn't do anything. Top of the lineup should be Rollins, Ruiz, Utley, Byrd - the 4 best hitters should be getting the most at bats, instead it is another manager who falls prey to the "eye test" of Revere is fast and Howard can hit a ball far --- those skills are all but worthless if they cannot actually hit a ball or get on base. This all stems from Amaro's statement of OBP doesn't matter, only runs/RBIs matter, like OBP wasn't the main contributor to those.
 

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How can Sandberg make the distinction that OBP has little to do with RBI's. Where some of these guys get there reasoning reminds me of the old Crackerjack boxes.
 

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How can Sandberg make the distinction that OBP has little to do with RBI's. Where some of these guys get there reasoning reminds me of the old Crackerjack boxes.

I got a baseball player figurine once, but he wasn't on base!
 

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The commentators say they don't understand why the Phillies have been losing. Here's why, dummies:

- Brown had become a clown, hitting .256 in April and .146 in May with his obp going from .320 to .200.
- Lee has been out and may never be the same if he comes back. Young callups have been bad.
- Burnett's ERA is .440, ballooning from last year's .330
- Asche was .161 in April but hit .317 in May until his progress was interrupted with an injury.
- Howard went from .247 in April to .206 in May and his obp declined 40 points to .274 in May.
- Gwynn is a zero in the batter's box.
- Revere should be at lead off. Youth first not JRol. His hitting is all fucked up from being jerked around.
- Byrd, rollins, revere, utley, and ruiz have been steady.

The Phillies will not put many wins together until the slackers perform. Dump Gwynn and bring up .340 OF Cameron Perkins for a shot to push Brown.

Forget Revere - sounds to me like Burnett should be batting at the lead off spot
 

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Rollins actually deserves to be leading off this year. He has a .348 OBP and leads the team in walks. Revere on the other hand has a .298 OBP. Over 600 PAs that's 30 additional times on base. I don't care if Revere is faster if that speed doesn't do anything. Top of the lineup should be Rollins, Ruiz, Utley, Byrd - the 4 best hitters should be getting the most at bats, instead it is another manager who falls prey to the "eye test" of Revere is fast and Howard can hit a ball far --- those skills are all but worthless if they cannot actually hit a ball or get on base. This all stems from Amaro's statement of OBP doesn't matter, only runs/RBIs matter, like OBP wasn't the main contributor to those.

That's why we are losing. Revere has scored 28 runs so far. Rollins 31 runs. Why are they so close? If Rollins is the better leadoff hitter, why doesn't he have 2 dozens more runs? After all,
rollins' walks (34) + hits (55) = 89
revere's walks (5) plus hits (60) = 65

Speed. Revere has 17 SBs. JRol's 8. Revere will steal 50 bases if you leave him lead off. Revere is a .300 hitter (slumping now at .282) and can learn to bunt more. JRol is a better power-rbi man and should not lead off. He K's 2x Revere's rate and hits .250. We're wasting his power. Plus four 35-year olds in spots 1 thru 5. Absurd.
 

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That's why we are losing. Revere has scored 28 runs so far. Rollins 31 runs. Why are they so close? If Rollins is the better leadoff hitter, why doesn't he have 2 dozens more runs? After all,
rollins' walks (34) + hits (55) = 89
revere's walks (5) plus hits (60) = 65

Speed. Revere has 17 SBs. JRol's 8. Revere will steal 50 bases if you leave him lead off. Revere is a .300 hitter (slumping now at .282) and can learn to bunt more. JRol is a better power-rbi man and should not lead off. He K's 2x Revere's rate and hits .250. We're wasting his power. Plus four 35-year olds in spots 1 thru 5. Absurd.

So your assertion is that .300 BA with .300 OBP is better than a .250/.350 --- Ruben, is that you?
 

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So your assertion is that .300 BA with .300 OBP is better than a .250/.350 --- Ruben, is that you?

Adding more - have to comment on the "wasting" Rollins' power. If Rollins leads off that's 162 PA guaranteed with no one hitting in front of him (all other innings are mostly random where he would fall in order). So moving him to #2 (in order to "save" his power for "useful" times) means that Revere would be on base roughly 48/162 times (~.300 OBP) to start games. Rollins for his career has hit a HR once every 40.2 ABs. Implying that 1 (2 times at most) in a season would be when he would statistically hit a home run in the first inning after Revere getting on base in front of him. Thus 1-2 runs extra a season from his "power" would be enough that you would sacrifice the extra times on base from Jimmy (who would be expected to get on base 57 times in leadoff situations - with a better hitter in Chooch or Utley behind him). The real downside is that by having Revere hitting 1st you are relegating Ruiz to 7th in the order. You have essentially stolen plate appearances from a guy with a .390 OBP and given them to a guy with a .298 because he has speed. Each spot lower in a batting order leads to roughly a .11 PA/G dropoff. So that hitting first gets .66 more PA/G than hitting 7th for 107 more PA over 162 games. That would mean Ruiz would get on base ~42 times in those 107 PA, while Revere would get on base ~32 times. To make up that difference Revere needs to steal an extra base 1 time out of at least every 3 times on base - right now he is only stealing once per every 4 PA (and the reality is that it would have to be even higher because Ruiz has a much higher power output). Thus Revere's speed doesn't really add as much as you seem to think it does.
 

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PONEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
 

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Holy shit you should post more often. Anyone who has the time and energy to type a paragraph talking about .11 PA/G just to tell Jvett to shove it up his ass is the fucking man in my book
 
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