NFL MVP...Gronk? Mike Freeman thinks so. Here's his top 10.

[NEPatsfan]

As long as Brady is in the minor league division, he will never be "most valuable".

Mvp doesn't mean "best stats". It means most valuable.

We all know the unwritten rules of mvp voting. Have to be in the playoffs (potentially eliminates Russel Wilson), have to be healthy (eliminates wentz and Rodgers).

That leaves imo Brady, gurley, Brees, and keenum.

In my order

Gurley
Brees
Brady
Keenum

You realize his record against other divs is actually better, right?

And you notice the NFC East is almost identical to the AFC East, right?

 

[flyerhawk]

I would probably give it to Gurley. He's finished the season very strongly.

 

[NEPatsfan]

The MVP is not about the team. You are confused.
Brady is the lead choice, but Gurley is a close second.

Who said it was a team award? You are confused.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I would probably give it to Gurley. He's finished the season very strongly.

The season isn't over, and he may not even be the recipient of the rushing title.

 

[Battlelyon]

The season isn't over, and he may not even be the recipient of the rushing title.

Because he is sitting out the final game, not because he hasn't earned it

 

[Myles]

Anyone else notice Gurely may not even win the rushing title this year?

Anyone notice Alex Smith has a higher rating than Tom Brady.
Alex should be in the running.

 

[flyerhawk]

The season isn't over, and he may not even be the recipient of the rushing title.

Brady isn't even the No. 1 QB choice. Wilson is a one man show in Seattle.

But Gurley has been extremely good over the past month. The Rams don't have much to play for on Sunday so he may not get a lot of touches.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Because he is sitting out the final game, not because he hasn't earned it

And if he is surpassed, he won't have earned it.

 

[Yam]

You realize his record against other divs is actually better, right?

And you notice the NFC East is almost identical to the AFC East, right?

Josh mcnown
Jay Cutler
Tyrod/Peterman/a QB who has started as many games at wr as he has QB

Brady gets to pummel that 6 times a year.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

True, but the fact Brady has MVP stats compared to previous winners, and the suggested alternative has similar stats to the RB of the same year it went to the QB, is proof of the push.

Who are these previous winners you speak of in this QB driven era? You gave one example of Manning which was 8 years ago. Brady hasn't even been the MVP on his team.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Josh mcnown
Jay Cutler
Tyrod/Peterman/a QB who has started as many games at wr as he has QB

Brady gets to pummel that 6 times a year.

And yet his recored vs the rest of the NFL is as good, if not better. Meaning you have 0.0 point.\



Oh, and pssssst, he doesn't play any of those guys.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Who are these previous winners you speak of in this QB driven era? You gave one example of Manning which was 8 years ago. Brady hasn't even been the MVP on his team.

Whose the MVP on the Pats?

 

[Scooby-Doo]

Whose the MVP on the Pats?

Ask Rock.

 

[Yam]

And yet his recored vs the rest of the NFL is as good, if not better. Meaning you have 0.0 point.\



Oh, and pssssst, he doesn't play any of those guys.

He has one division loss this season.

He has two losses vs "the rest of the NFL"


2 losses are as good as if not better than 1?

 

[Yam]

Whose the MVP on the Pats?

Hoodie.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Who are these previous winners you speak of in this QB driven era? You gave one example of Manning which was 8 years ago. Brady hasn't even been the MVP on his team.

Cam Newton 2016, ≈4100 yeards 24 TD's

Aaron Rodgers 2015 ≈4150 32 TD's

Peyton Manning 2008 ≈4050 28 TD's

Steve McNair 2003 ≈3500 24 TD's

Tom Brady 2017 ≈4400 30 TD's, 1 game remaining

 

[NEPatsfan]

He has one division loss this season.

He has two losses vs "the rest of the NFL"


2 losses are as good as if not better than 1?

You didn't say only this season, you suggested year in and year out, now didn't you. TB is just as good against every other div in the NFL, if not better. It's simply a fact that dismantles that idiotic notion you have.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Hoodie.

The offence is called by Josh McDaniels, not Bill Belichick.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Ask Rock.

I'm not sure he even watches/follows the NFL.

 

[flyerhawk]

You didn't say only this season, you suggested year in and year out, now didn't you. TB is just as good against every other div in the NFL, if not better. It's simply a fact that dismantles that idiotic notion you have.

Brady has a .780 winning percentage against the AFC East in his career.

He has a .610 winning percentage against the AFC West

He has a .570 winning percentage against the NFC South.

So no, he isn't just as good against every other division.