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NFL MVP...Gronk? Mike Freeman thinks so. Here's his top 10.

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He took what you said and proved it wrong.

Accept your shaming and move along


No he cherry picked what he needed to get fools like you to fall for it.

What is TB12s record vs every team in the NFL, and how many of those other 31 does he have a losing record against? Why are you avoiding this?
 

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And what is Brady's record vs every team in the NFL? Of the 31 other teams how many does he have a losing record against?

Take your time.

I don't think you're aware of what you said.

It's ok. You can go back, read it, and realize what happened.
 

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You just babble on and on making no sense

the last 5 games out of 15 games is not cherry picking, its a 1/3rd of a season sample


It is cherry picking, and you suck at it. You would have been better off picking the last 4 which represents 1/4 of the season, and would have given you a stronger argument.
 

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I don't think you're aware of what you said.

It's ok. You can go back, read it, and realize what happened.

Oh I'm aware.

Now answer the questions.
 

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So you ask for examples, then when you are given examples, you accuse that person of cherry picking, even though your asking was by default asking for cherry picking. Are you really that stupid?
You just said Dirt is awful at cherry picking yet when you cherry pick, you give the wrong stats and year of the only relevant example. You were saying something about stupid?
 

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It is cherry picking, and you suck at it. You would have been better off picking the last 4 which represents 1/4 of the season, and would have given you a stronger argument.


No, cherry picking is ignoring his "Good, but not MVP like games" and acting as if they never happened
 

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No, cherry picking is ignoring his "Good, but not MVP like games" and acting as if they never happened


And yet it matches numerous other QB's that have won in recent years, and he still has a game to go. Odd.
 

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And yet it matches numerous other QB's that have won in recent years, and he still has a game to go. Odd.


And its why he is in the MVP conversation

I just laugh at your insecure conspiracy theories that they wanna give it to anyone but Brady, and its not because Todd Gurley has been as valuable as any player in the NFL, Leveon Bell or Antonio Brown or Carson Wentz
 
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Cherry Picking? You just did the same thing. Also. I said the only one that is relevant is Rodgers. However that is wrong. Rodgers didn't win the MVP in 2015. He won it in 2014 and his numbers were:

≈ 4400 yards 38 TD's and 5 INTs. Brady has had 5 int's the past 4 weeks. So really, you haven't given a good recent example at all.


Tom Brady 2017 ≈4400 30 TD's, 1 game remaining

so huh? Was that from another post, and if so was it a typo?
 

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He really doesn't have a clue. I doubt he actually watches football.


No actually he's clueless. The stats I posted were correct, he simply assumed I didn't include their rushing stats, when I fact I did.

You shouldn't assume. And you fell for what he posted.
 

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Brady has a .780 winning percentage against the AFC East in his career.

He has a .610 winning percentage against the AFC West

He has a .570 winning percentage against the NFC South.

So no, he isn't just as good against every other division.


As of the start of this season, Brady is,

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What say you @DirtDirtDirt @Yam @Myles ?
 

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No he cherry picked what he needed to get fools like you to fall for it.

What is TB12s record vs every team in the NFL, and how many of those other 31 does he have a losing record against? Why are you avoiding this?

You're the guy who said divisions.

He posted division info.

And Brady has a losing record vs two teams.

He's played them 3 times (Seattle) and 5 times (Carolina).
 

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You're the guy who said divisions.

He posted division info.

And Brady has a losing record vs two teams.

He's played them 3 times (Seattle) and 5 times (Carolina).


Look up.
 

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I've never seen someone strawman themselves into being MORE wrong than when he started.

Congrats nepatsfan.
 

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I say you don't have a clue what you said.

Here's a hint.

TB is just as good against every other div in the NFL, if not better.

When is 62% and 64% "as good as if not better" than 77%?

"No rush"


And that is offset by divs he's better against.

Now you are just caught with your pants down and will scramble for any semantical argument you can find.
 

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I've never seen someone strawman themselves into being MORE wrong than when he started.

Congrats nepatsfan.


Me either, nor have I this time.

You simply were wrong.



Pssst, notice the connection to the two divisions he's weaker against? And notice the similarity to each of the Div by Conf.? East to East, South to South, etc?
 
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