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[Yam]

@Yam @Myles

Tom Brady now has a winning record vs every team in the NFL except for Denver, which he now stands at 8-9. But yeah, it's the fact he plays in the AFCE.

Well

If we're looking for root causes, it's the hoodie.

But playing almost half his schedule vs the AFC least helps.

 

[Yam]

You jumped on his train though about the divs.


Here's another stat for you, and @Yam , more so yam than you,

Brady vs the whole NFL .769

Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764


Yup he only wins because of he plays in the AFCE.

Hmm
If he is "as good if not better" vs all the other divisions....why is the winning % lower?

Keep scrambling.

 

[Myles]

You jumped on his train though about the divs.


Here's another stat for you, and @Yam , more so yam than you,

Brady vs the whole NFL .769

Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764


Yup he only wins because of he plays in the AFCE.

You sure those are correct. You said he is better against EVERY other division in the NFL.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Hmm
If he is "as good if not better" vs all the other divisions....why is the winning % lower?

Keep scrambling.

Are you seriously that shitty at basic math? .015% difference.

 

[Yam]

Are you seriously that shitty at basic math? .015% difference.

Yea

Less than isn't "equal to or greater than"

 

[NEPatsfan]

You sure those are correct. You said he is better against EVERY other division in the NFL.

I did, and it was generalizing. There are in fact two divisions where he is statistically lower slightly, and one that is nearly identical.

Here, he is better than the against the ENTIRE NFL execpt for Denver. Are you happy now? Still doesn't change the fact that his playing in the East has little to do with why he wins so much. He/Pats, are just that much better than the NFL as a whole.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Yea

Less than isn't "equal to or greater than"

Sure, it's called statistically insignificant.

 

[Yam]

Sure, it's called statistically insignificant.

LMFAO
You're a gem man.

"They are as good as if not better vs every other division....except where they aren't....or when they aren't by a certain amount"


Straw to the man.

 

[NEPatsfan]

LMFAO
You're a gem man.

"They are as good as if not better vs every other division....except where they aren't....or when they aren't by a certain amount"


Straw to the man.

Yes I generalized, and already stated so. You knew exactly what I meant, and once you were called on it, you have fallen back to holding onto 2 out of 8 div in the NFL where he is slightly less successful than he is in the AFCE.

TB vs the AFCE 74 wins

TB vs the rest of the NFL 146 wins.

Yup, it's all because he plays in the AFCE. You know, the reason you tried to claim is the only reason he has won.

Care to explain? Or are you just going to hold onto those two other divisions, which has winning records against, as your proof?






Psssst "as good" still applies, since he has a solid winning record against those two divisions as well.

 

[Myles]

I did, and it was generalizing. There are in fact two divisions where he is statistically lower slightly, and one that is nearly identical.

Here, he is better than the against the ENTIRE NFL execpt for Denver. Are you happy now? Still doesn't change the fact that his playing in the East has little to do with why he wins so much. He/Pats, are just that much better than the NFL as a whole.

I agree that the Pats have been great against most of the NFL teams. But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

 

[Yam]

Yes I generalized, and already stated so. You knew exactly what I meant, and once you were called on it, you have fallen back to holding onto 2 out of 8 div in the NFL where he is slightly less successful than he is in the AFCE.

TB vs the AFCE 74 wins

TB vs the rest of the NFL 146 wins.

Yup, it's all because he plays in the AFCE. You know, the reason you tried to claim is the only reason he has won.

Care to explain? Or are you just going to hold onto those two other divisions, which has winning records against, as your proof?






Psssst "as good" still applies, since he has a solid winning record against those two divisions as well.

As good to me (and the rest of the world) would mean equal to.

If someone is "as good as" someone else, they are their equal....not worse.

Today I've taught you football, math, English...the forum posting hat trick.

 

[Myles]

As good to me (and the rest of the world) would mean equal to.

If someone is "as good as" someone else, they are their equal....not worse.

Today I've taught you football, math, English...the forum posting hat trick.

So is this correct? The Eagles are AS GOOD with Foley as they are with Wentz.

 

[NEPatsfan]

I agree that the Pats have been great against most of the NFL teams. But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

It's nearly identical to the rest of the NFL, so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

 

[NEPatsfan]

As good to me (and the rest of the world) would mean equal to.

If someone is "as good as" someone else, they are their equal....not worse.

Today I've taught you football, math, English...the forum posting hat trick.

You haven't taught anyone anything in your entire life, and it's not going to happen today.

The Patriots are as good against the NFL as a whole as they are against the East. You tried to claim it's because of the East that they win so much, and that is factually wrong. You just aren't man enough to admit it. I've admitted I generalized was generalizing and should have said the NFL instead of individual divs. However, that doesn't change the fact they are better than every div. in the NFL, with only two having a slightly lower success rate for the Patriots.

 

[Myles]

It's nearly identical to the rest of the NFL, so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

You are not very good at math are you?

 

[NEPatsfan]

You are not very good at math are you?

Certainly better than yourself.

Brady wins about 77% of his games.

2 divs at a similar rate ot his overall %, both against the East Conf Divs

2 divs at a lower % rate, though still a winning % rate, both against the West Conf Divs

and 4 divisions at a higher % rate, and these 4 against the North/South Conf Div



See a pattern?

 

[Yam]

So is this correct? The Eagles are AS GOOD with Foley as they are with Wentz.

If you're generalizing statistically insignificant numbers, absolutely.

 

[Yam]

You haven't taught anyone anything in your entire life, and it's not going to happen today.

The Patriots are as good against the NFL as a whole as they are against the East. You tried to claim it's because of the East that they win so much, and that is factually wrong. You just aren't man enough to admit it. I've admitted I generalized was generalizing and should have said the NFL instead of individual divs. However, that doesn't change the fact they are better than every div. in the NFL, with only two having a slightly lower success rate for the Patriots.

Oh boy.

You did it again.

Wow.

 

[Wazmankg]

Not a prayer. But after 13 pages I guess the lesson here is that if you're going to troll successfully make it about the Pats.

 

[dbldwn711]

I think this is a close race. Gurley has certainly come on of late while Brady's stats have not been as good these last 5 games. But @DirtDirtDirt you can't on one hand say "Wentz deserves to be MVP bc he's the main reason the Eagles have HFA" and NOT give Brady those same props.

I think that's an example of the anti-bias Brady @NEPatsfan is alluding to.