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NFL MVP...Gronk? Mike Freeman thinks so. Here's his top 10.

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Certainly better than yourself.
Are you really this stupid? C'mon, give it up. The Pats have a better win % against the AFC East than the rest of the NFL combined. You gave us the info, but you are unable to decipher it?

You claim:
Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764

I post: But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

You then claim: so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

Are you this stupid?
 

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I don't think you're aware of what you said.

It's ok. You can go back, read it, and realize what happened.

Oh he knows what he said. But he's incapable of admitting a mistake so he just changes the claim and when you point out that he was still wrong with his initial claim, he'll accuse the other person of moving the goal posts. It's what he does.
 

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Are you really this stupid? C'mon, give it up. The Pats have a better win % against the AFC East than the rest of the NFL combined. You gave us the info, but you are unable to decipher it?

You claim:
Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764

I post: But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

You then claim: so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

Are you this stupid?


The difference is statistically insignificant is the point. It's a difference of less than 2 games.

Are you this stupid?
 

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The board has (from what I noticed) said Brady is at least a top three candidate.

But not number one, so in comes the "anti Brady bias".

Only in new England...
 

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Oh he knows what he said. But he's incapable of admitting a mistake so he just changes the claim and when you point out that he was still wrong with his initial claim, he'll accuse the other person of moving the goal posts. It's what he does.


WHolly crap do you suck at this.

I already admitted I could have worded it better. Unlike you I have no issue admitting being wrong, something you will never do.

Talk about being a douchenozzle, you.
 

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The board has (from what I noticed) said Brady is at least a top three candidate.

But not number one, so in comes the "anti Brady bias".

Only in new England...


Who said otherwise? The argument is over will it be a QB or a RB.

I forget whom, but a good argument was made for Wilson, certainly a better choice than a RB.
 

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The difference is statistically insignificant is the point. It's a difference of less than 2 games.

Are you this stupid?
You are moving the goal posts again and not supporting what you claim.
Dumbass!
 

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This is a perfect argument for why the NFL needs TNF.

Too much time between games only encourages NE hate threads to grow.

Stoke the fire haters it's providing great warmth.
 

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You claim:
Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764

I post: But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

You then claim: so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

Lesson #1 - .779 is greater than .764 I hope to can improve your math skills. They really are important in life.
 

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You are moving the goal posts again and not supporting what you claim.
Dumbass!


Goal post are right were they were. Brady is just as good against the rest of the NFL as he is the AFCE. I worded it poorly earlier, which I acknowledged, but even with that poor wording it was easily pointed out that he is still highly successfull against the two divs in question.
 

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This is a perfect argument for why the NFL needs TNF.

Too much time between games only encourages NE hate threads to grow.

Stoke the fire haters it's providing great warmth.

Other than Dirt being Dirt I don't see a lot of Patriot hate. It's mostly NEpatsfan trying to claim that any consideration for someone other than TB for MVP must be due to Brady Hate rather than legitimate consideration of their performance.

Most Patriot fans I know would say that this has not been an MVP season by Brady. Still very good but not MVP.
 

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And that is offset by divs he's better against.

Now you are just caught with your pants down and will scramble for any semantical argument you can find.

That wasn't the argument you made, Mr. Goal Post Mover.
 

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Goal post are right were they were. Brady is just as good against the rest of the NFL as he is the AFCE. I worded it poorly earlier, which I acknowledged, but even with that poor wording it was easily pointed out that he is still highly successfull against the two divs in question.



He really just did it....again.

No.
He.
Isn't.
As.
Good.
Vs.
The.
Rest.
Of.
The.
League.

This.
Has.
Been.
Proven.
 

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You claim:
Brady vs the AFCE .779

Brady vs the rest of the NFL .764

I post: But overall, the AFC East is pulling their % up which goes against your original comment.

You then claim: so using your logic the rest of the NFL is pulling thier % up.

Lesson #1 - .779 is greater than .764 I hope to can improve your math skills. They really are important in life.


No one said it wasn't slightly greater, the point being made is the rest of the NFL is helping to pull his % up. He has a winning record vs every team in the NFL with the exception of Denver.
 

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That wasn't the argument you made, Mr. Goal Post Mover.


Yes I generalizd and said every division, when I should have said the NFL as a whole, and or has a winning record vs every div.

That doesn't change the fact that his playing in the East has little to do with why he wins so much, and his record vs ever div, the entire NFL, every team but one proves otherwise.
 

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This is a perfect argument for why the NFL needs TNF.

Too much time between games only encourages NE hate threads to grow.

Stoke the fire haters it's providing great warmth.
Actually this hasn't been a NE hate thread at all, even though one poster will try to tell you different. Most of us think Brady is top 2 right now. Which I think is fair and accurate. Gurley, Brady Smith and a couple others deserve consideration.
 

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He really just did it....again.

No.
He.
Isn't.
As.
Good.
Vs.
The.
Rest.
Of.
The.
League.

This.
Has.
Been.
Proven.


You are correct. He is 1.5 games less, out of 220 played. Congrats.
 
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