NFL MVP...Gronk? Mike Freeman thinks so. Here's his top 10.

[Scooby-Doo]

Cam Newton 2016, ≈4100 yeards 24 TD's

Aaron Rodgers 2015 ≈4150 32 TD's

Peyton Manning 2008 ≈4050 28 TD's

Steve McNair 2003 ≈3500 24 TD's

Tom Brady 2017 ≈4400 30 TD's, 1 game remaining

You left out the rushing stats for Newton and McNair so you can remove those from the list. You can't just throw up yards and TD stats and call it a day. In addition, we don't know what the rest of the comp looked like in those examples. The only one that seems relevant is Rodgers in 2015. At least it was within the past 5 years.

Finally... Brady has looked average to below average the last 4 weeks. 3 td's 5 ints and averaging well below 300 yards a game. Usually MVP's come on strong as the year winds down. They don't fade away.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

I'm not sure he even watches/follows the NFL.

Right

 

[Myles]

Who said it was a team award? You are confused.

Quit being a dick. You have been bringing up the team aspect this whole thread.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Brady has a .780 winning percentage against the AFC East in his career.

He has a .610 winning percentage against the AFC West

He has a .570 winning percentage against the NFC South.

So no, he isn't just as good against every other division.

In walks the cherry picker.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

You left out the rushing stats for Newton and McNair so you can remove those from the list. You can't just throw up yards and TD stats and call it a day. In addition, we don't know what the rest of the comp looked like in those examples. The only one that seems relevant is Rodgers in 2015. At least it was within the past 5 years.

Finally... Brady has looked average to below average the last 4 weeks. 3 td's 5 ints and averaging well below 300 yards a game. Usually MVP's come on strong as the year winds down. They don't fade away.

Exactly, if we were discussing any other QB, every New England fan in this place would talk only about these last 4 games, and highlighting how that QB has looked "Down the stretch" of the season

Not for Brady

 

[NEPatsfan]

Quit being a dick. You have been bringing up the team aspect this whole thread.

Where once did I say it's a team award? It's a player award. He happens to be the most valuable player on his team, in the most valuable position in the NFL, and the most valuable at that position in the NFL. He is the most valuable player in the NFL.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

You need to get out more.


When Wentz went down it was AB, and now that he is out, it's Gurley.

You need to stop acting as if Sports SportsHoopla is the barometer for which NFL MVP voters use

And furthermore, the reason its changed is because Brady simply hasnt been MVP like for 5 weeks now

 

[Yam]

You didn't say only this season, you suggested year in and year out, now didn't you. TB is just as good against every other div in the NFL, if not better. It's simply a fact that dismantles that idiotic notion you have.

Is dismantles nothing.

Year in and year out new England gets to play in an absolutely putrid division. It's an easy 4-6 wins every year.

To me, an mvp is a guy who if gone, the team is a mess. Brady outside if a year or two, isn't that guy to me. The reason being, bc bill is the glue that holds that team together. Brady gone? No problem, he goes and has a 10-5 season with Matt cassel.

Brady suspended for four games? He goes 3-1 with a backup and 3rd stringer at quarterback.

Is it lame to ding Brady for getting cupcakes for a little less than half his season and having the best coach ever at the helm? A little, but those are the facts.

 

[Yam]

Brady has a .780 winning percentage against the AFC East in his career.

He has a .610 winning percentage against the AFC West

He has a .570 winning percentage against the NFC South.

So no, he isn't just as good against every other division.

"It's simply a fact that dismantles that idiotic notion you have."

 

[NEPatsfan]

You need to stop acting as if Sports SportsHoopla is the barometer for which NFL MVP voters use

And furthermore, the reason its changed is because Brady simply hasnt been MVP like for 5 weeks now

Stick to tiddly winks, you even suck at cherry picking, that and it's based on their season, not a small selective sample of the season.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Is dismantles nothing.

Year in and year out new England gets to play in an absolutely putrid division. It's an easy 4-6 wins every year.

To me, an mvp is a guy who if gone, the team is a mess. Brady outside if a year or two, isn't that guy to me. The reason being, bc bill is the glue that holds that team together. Brady gone? No problem, he goes and has a 10-5 season with Matt cassel.

Brady suspended for four games? He goes 3-1 with a backup and 3rd stringer at quarterback.

Is it lame to ding Brady for getting cupcakes for a little less than half his season and having the best coach ever at the helm? A little, but those are the facts.

Unlike that powerhouse division the eaglets are in, right?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Stick to tiddly winks, you even suck at cherry picking, that and it's based on their season, not a small selective sample of the season.

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Are you trying to make my argument?

ZERO 300 yard games

8 TD's
6 INT's

in his last 5 games


As un-MVP Like as you get

 

[Yam]

In walks the cherry picker.

He took what you said and proved it wrong.

Accept your shaming and move along

 

[NEPatsfan]

"It's simply a fact that dismantles that idiotic notion you have."

And what is Brady's record vs every team in the NFL? Of the 31 other teams how many does he have a losing record against?

Take your time.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Are you trying to make my argument?

ZERO 300 yard games

8 TD's
6 INT's

in his last 5 games


As un-MVP Like as you get

No I'm pointing out that you suck ass at cherry picking.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

In walks the cherry picker.

Cherry Picking? You just did the same thing. Also. I said the only one that is relevant is Rodgers. However that is wrong. Rodgers didn't win the MVP in 2015. He won it in 2014 and his numbers were:

≈ 4400 yards 38 TD's and 5 INTs. Brady has had 5 int's the past 4 weeks. So really, you haven't given a good recent example at all.

 

[Myles]

Stick to tiddly winks, you even suck at cherry picking, that and it's based on their season, not a small selective sample of the season.

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Alex Smith has had a better season than Tom Brady.

 

[Yam]

Unlike that powerhouse division the eaglets are in, right?

Since 2008, every team in the NFC east has won a division title, twice.

Since 2008, the pats won every year except 2008, when the dolphins won.

Afc East is a joke.

 

[NEPatsfan]

Cherry Picking? You just did the same thing. Also. I said the only one that is relevant is Rodgers. However that is wrong. Rodgers didn't win the MVP in 2015. He won it in 2014 and his numbers were:

≈ 4400 yards 38 TD's and 5 INTs. Brady has had 4 int's the past 3 weeks. So really, you haven't given a good recent example at all.

So you ask for examples, then when you are given examples, you accuse that person of cherry picking, even though your asking was by default asking for cherry picking. Are you really that stupid?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

No I'm pointing out that you suck ass at cherry picking.

You just babble on and on making no sense

the last 5 games out of 15 games is not cherry picking, its a 1/3rd of a season sample