NFL Bucket Draft Playoff 2 : Mebert vs WLK

[Nosferatu]

MEBERT

OFFENSE
QB - John Elway - 5
RB - O.J. Simpson - 3
FB - Lorenzo Neal - 8
WR - A.J. Green - 7
WR - Paul Warfield - 4
WR - Wes Welker - 6
TE - Dave Casper - 4
LT - Rosey Brown - 3
LG - Gene Upshaw - 2
C - Mike Webster - 1
RG - Will Shields - 6
RT - Forrest Gregg - 1

DEFENSE
LDE - Reggie White - 4
LDT - Mean Joe Greene - 1
RDT - Alan Page - 2
RDE - Mario Williams - 8
LLB - Larry Grantham - 6
MLB - Luke Kuechly - 8
RLB - Keith Bulluck - 4
LCB - Dick LeBeau - 5
NCB - Lemar Parrish - 7
RCB - Emmitt Thomas - 6
SS - Kenny Easley - 7
FS - Earl Thomas - 7

VS

WLK

OFFENSE
QB - Joe Montana - 1
RB - Marshall Faulk - 3
RB - Jerome Bettis - 1
WR - Steve Smith - 8
WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 5
WR - Charlie Joiner - 7
TE - Mike Ditka - 2
LT - Tony Boselli - 8
LG - Russ Grimm - 3
C - Kevin Mawae - 7
RG - Joe DeLamielleure - 4
RT - Gary Zimmerman - 5

DEFENSE
LDE - Julius Peppers - 8
LDT - Richard Seymour - 6
RDT - Buck Buchanan - 6
RDE - Bruce Smith - 3
LLB - Jack Ham - 1
MLB - Zach Thomas - 4
RLB - Junior Seau - 6
LCB - Charles Woodson - 2
RCB - Willie Brown - 2
NCB - Troy Vincent - 4
SS - John Lynch - 7
FS - Steve Atwater - 5

 

[Nosferatu]

Mebert - 6
WLK - 3

Voted - Milk, Jeffro, Mebert, UK, Nos, 500, WLK, Ritz, Hockey

 

[MilkSpiller22]

All teams in this mock are disgustingly good... But I got Mebert here... Both his defensive and offensive lines are better than WLK... And WLKs advantages are just not as big IMO...

So I got Mebert...

 

[jeffro151]

Mebert wins this one. His O-line is much better, IMO. The other positions are fairly close.

 

[Nosferatu]

Great this one is more difficult than the first game ill need a minute...

 

[Mebert]

I vote myself. I have the ultimate running team, and my dline is the best in this competition I think. WLK has amazing Linebackers to stop the run, but I think my Oline would dominate, and Neal and Casper are 2 of the best ever at getting to the second level to throw a block

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think this one is closer than it looks. Mebert put together an awesome OL and DL, but I do think WLK has some matchups he could exploit, namely Faulk out of the backfield as an outlet for Montana. That said, there wouldn't be much time for Montana to throw against that DL. I am not a fan at all of Meberts QB or RB, but his OL is dominating and he quality WR's. It's a close one for sure

Mebert

 

[Nosferatu]

Montana and Faulk is awesome, I like WLK's offense more and Meberts defense more...

I believe I like Meberts defense more than WLK's offense. I gotta lean Mebert...

 

[wlk3]

Hahahahaha

In what possible universe is his team better... His only advantage is at Dline and I have a DAMN good one myself... Are you fucking serious... AJ Green...? When I grabbed Welker he was treated like the worst pick in mock history... His running game is all he has and I have the best LB crew in the draft and did you see that Dline...? This is fucking hilarious... I'm gonna need some explainations or this will be my last draft... Seriously... Not pulling a tantrum just being honest, I've told Ritz before if people don't start explaining votes I'm done and this one here is beyond hilarious...

 

[wlk3]

MEBERT

OFFENSE
QB - John Elway - 5 < QB - Joe Montana - 1 - not really close
RB - O.J. Simpson - 3 < RB - Marshall Faulk - 3 close
FB - Lorenzo Neal - 8 = RB - Jerome Bettis - 1 - equal for their roles IMO
WR - A.J. Green - 7 < WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 5 - not close yet
WR - Paul Warfield - 4 < WR - Charlie Joiner - 7 - close
WR - Wes Welker - 6 < WR - Steve Smith - 8 - close
TE - Dave Casper - 4 < TE - Mike Ditka - 2 - close
LT - Rosey Brown - 3 > LT - Tony Boselli - 8 - should have been closer
LG - Gene Upshaw - 2 > LG - Russ Grimm - 3 - close
C - Mike Webster - 1 > C - Kevin Mawae - 7 - close
RG - Will Shields - 6 < RG - Joe DeLamielleure - 4 - close
RT - Forrest Gregg - 1 > RT - Gary Zimmerman - 5 - close

DEFENSE
LDE - Reggie White - 4 > LDE - Julius Peppers - 8 - close
LDT - Mean Joe Greene - 1 > LDT - Richard Seymour - 6 - close
RDT - Alan Page - 2 > RDT - Buck Buchanan - 6 - close
RDE - Mario Williams - 8 < RDE - Bruce Smith - 3 - not close
LLB - Larry Grantham - 6 < LLB - Jack Ham - 1 - not close
MLB - Luke Kuechly - 8 < MLB - Zach Thomas - 4 - not close yet
RLB - Keith Bulluck - 4 < RLB - Junior Seau - 6 - not close
LCB - Dick LeBeau - 5 < LCB - Charles Woodson - 2 not close
NCB - Lemar Parrish - 7 < NCB - Troy Vincent - 4 - close
RCB - Emmitt Thomas - 6 < RCB - Willie Brown - 2 - Not close...
SS - Kenny Easley - 7 > SS - John Lynch - 7 really close...
FS - Earl Thomas - 7 < FS - Steve Atwater - 5 - not close yet, maybe one day...


That's how I see it... no way... 15 to 9 and my better players are by far better...

 

[Mebert]

People are explaining, you just don't like the explanation. and your view in you comparisons are through some extreme WLK colored glasses.

 

[Pack 500]

MEBERT

OFFENSE
QB - John Elway - 5 < QB - Joe Montana - 1 - not really close
RB - O.J. Simpson - 3 < RB - Marshall Faulk - 3 close
FB - Lorenzo Neal - 8 = RB - Jerome Bettis - 1 - equal for their roles IMO
WR - A.J. Green - 7 < WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 5 - not close yet
WR - Paul Warfield - 4 < WR - Charlie Joiner - 7 - close
WR - Wes Welker - 6 < WR - Steve Smith - 8 - close
TE - Dave Casper - 4 < TE - Mike Ditka - 2 - close
LT - Rosey Brown - 3 > LT - Tony Boselli - 8 - should have been closer
LG - Gene Upshaw - 2 > LG - Russ Grimm - 3 - close
C - Mike Webster - 1 > C - Kevin Mawae - 7 - close
RG - Will Shields - 6 < RG - Joe DeLamielleure - 4 - close
RT - Forrest Gregg - 1 > RT - Gary Zimmerman - 5 - close

DEFENSE
LDE - Reggie White - 4 > LDE - Julius Peppers - 8 - close
LDT - Mean Joe Greene - 1 > LDT - Richard Seymour - 6 - close
RDT - Alan Page - 2 > RDT - Buck Buchanan - 6 - close
RDE - Mario Williams - 8 < RDE - Bruce Smith - 3 - not close
LLB - Larry Grantham - 6 < LLB - Jack Ham - 1 - not close
MLB - Luke Kuechly - 8 < MLB - Zach Thomas - 4 - not close yet
RLB - Keith Bulluck - 4 < RLB - Junior Seau - 6 - not close
LCB - Dick LeBeau - 5 < LCB - Charles Woodson - 2 not close
NCB - Lemar Parrish - 7 < NCB - Troy Vincent - 4 - close
RCB - Emmitt Thomas - 6 < RCB - Willie Brown - 2 - Not close...
SS - Kenny Easley - 7 > SS - John Lynch - 7 really close...
FS - Earl Thomas - 7 < FS - Steve Atwater - 5 - not close yet, maybe one day...


That's how I see it... no way... 15 to 9 and my better players are by far better...

I love Peppers but not he is not close to Reggie white and no Seymour isn't close to mean Joe. However I do like you offense a lot better WLK and I think the gap is larger than the defenses so I vote you

 

[wlk3]

I love Peppers but not he is not close to Reggie white and no Seymour isn't close to mean Joe. However I do like you offense a lot better WLK and I think the gap is larger than the defenses so I vote you

White is a grown man, I agree I just think what Peppers can do all around brings up his worth... As for Seymour, I can let that one go to not close I like him and have seen him more so I know how great he was first hand... Can agree Mean Joe is not close though...

 

[UK Cowboy]

MEBERT

OFFENSE
QB - John Elway - 5 < QB - Joe Montana - 1 - not really close
RB - O.J. Simpson - 3 < RB - Marshall Faulk - 3 close
FB - Lorenzo Neal - 8 = RB - Jerome Bettis - 1 - equal for their roles IMO
WR - A.J. Green - 7 < WR - Larry Fitzgerald - 5 - not close yet
WR - Paul Warfield - 4 < WR - Charlie Joiner - 7 - close
WR - Wes Welker - 6 < WR - Steve Smith - 8 - close
TE - Dave Casper - 4 < TE - Mike Ditka - 2 - close
LT - Rosey Brown - 3 > LT - Tony Boselli - 8 - should have been closer
LG - Gene Upshaw - 2 > LG - Russ Grimm - 3 - close
C - Mike Webster - 1 > C - Kevin Mawae - 7 - close
RG - Will Shields - 6 < RG - Joe DeLamielleure - 4 - close
RT - Forrest Gregg - 1 > RT - Gary Zimmerman - 5 - close

DEFENSE
LDE - Reggie White - 4 > LDE - Julius Peppers - 8 - close
LDT - Mean Joe Greene - 1 > LDT - Richard Seymour - 6 - close
RDT - Alan Page - 2 > RDT - Buck Buchanan - 6 - close
RDE - Mario Williams - 8 < RDE - Bruce Smith - 3 - not close
LLB - Larry Grantham - 6 < LLB - Jack Ham - 1 - not close
MLB - Luke Kuechly - 8 < MLB - Zach Thomas - 4 - not close yet
RLB - Keith Bulluck - 4 < RLB - Junior Seau - 6 - not close
LCB - Dick LeBeau - 5 < LCB - Charles Woodson - 2 not close
NCB - Lemar Parrish - 7 < NCB - Troy Vincent - 4 - close
RCB - Emmitt Thomas - 6 < RCB - Willie Brown - 2 - Not close...
SS - Kenny Easley - 7 > SS - John Lynch - 7 really close...
FS - Earl Thomas - 7 < FS - Steve Atwater - 5 - not close yet, maybe one day...


That's how I see it... no way... 15 to 9 and my better players are by far better...

I can understand why you are frustrated, you have a great team, as did everyone. Couple of disagreements, Reggie White and Peppers are not close IMO. Mean Joe and Seymour at DT are not close. You had Kuechly and Green as not close yet, but I think they are very close. I think Thomas is better than Atwater. Tons of close matchups otherwise, making it a toss up, as are most games IMO

 

[Nosferatu]

I think you need to rethink the close not close. The defensive line the only not close is RDE? I disagree his DT's blow yours out of the water, they are arguably the best 2 DT's in the history of the game.

Troy Vincent is not better than Lemar Parrish. Willie Brown over Thomas and not close? Another I disagree with. No question your linebackers are better. Slight edge to your secondary but Easley is the best of the 4 IMO.

I also dont agree with your views on the offensive line. I got Shields over DeLam. Fitz over Green is a good call but Green has the red rocket and Fitz's best years he had Warner and hasnt been other worldly since he left.

I do agree on QB's

 

[wlk3]

People are explaining, you just don't like the explanation. and your view in you comparisons are through some extreme WLK colored glasses.

I completely disagree but I guess you're right... Great job...

 

[Nosferatu]

Also you might notice this is the only game I said I needed more time on.

 

[Mebert]

Mario Williams: Tackles 293 Sacks 91
Peppers(first 9 years) Tackles 352 Sacks 89

Peppers did force quite a few more fumbles. Yet somehow Smith is way better than Williams(I agree), but Peppers is close to the greatest DE that ever lived?

I have the best DE and 2 best DT's to ever play the game, yet you think your dline is close somehow? I thought our teams are close. I agree your lb's are way better, but I have the blocking players to neutralize that. (See my explanation for my vote.)

I don't object to you liking your team more, I think just about everyone here thought the game was close, I do object to your hissy fit because people voted my way early(vote is not over yet). This is supposed to be for fun, grow the fuck up

 

[Nosferatu]

I don't think he needs to grow up I love the passion, he actually cares if he wins or loses, I will say I do not like the fact hes going to quit.

 

[Mebert]

I don't think he needs to grow up I love the passion, he actually cares if he wins or loses, I will say I do not like the fact hes going to quit.

The quitting is my main point. This whole thing is opinion, threatening to quit because you don't like the explanations of others is beyond childish. That kinda crap is supposed to go away with the kid who takes his ball and goes home in middle school