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Did Tee Higgins get that much? I forgot that. I guess he will get over $25M and close the $30M
Yeah man some of these positions got expensive in a hurry. WR and DE immediately come to mind in addition to the perpetual situation at QB.
 

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Kind of reinforces how much better off you are with an elite guy at $34Mish versus a really good guys at $28Mish. The "next man up" thing in NFL contracts being almost as indicative of what a guy will get as his talent has always been a problem. See QB.

I wonder what Washington will do here. Cap isn't an issue for them right now and his cap hit won't really even go up if they sign him because 1/5 of his SB will hit but they will reduce his base to like $1M. I guess if you take a step back and think about it, it's best to strike in that window while your star QB is cheap. They built up their OL. Brought in another WR. Would kill the whole plan to send him elsewhere at his point
 

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Yeah man some of these positions got expensive in a hurry. WR and DE immediately come to mind in addition to the perpetual situation at QB.
It kind of highlights how hitting on those two young cheap corners in one draft (right after doing so with DL the couple of years before) and cutting the expensive Vet DBs helped your team both on the field and with the cap. The draft is becoming more and more important each year as salaries climb. These teams that play it like Pitts and are good enough every year to make the playoffs but never take a step back to reload and always pick in the middle to late middle of the draft may be the ones in the worst position. That's the problem with Dallas now. They used last year as a little bit of a cap reset and have let a bunch of older guys go the last couple of years that in years past they would have held onto, but this year they kind of got caught in between. They filled a bunch of holes and likely put themselves back on the playoff bubble, but clearly not enough to win a SB. So you either re-sign Pickens (if he doesn't implode) and then all of your young guys or you end up back where you were. They should have their eyes on 26 and 27 right now and I'm not sure Jerry is able to do that after teh criticism he took last year.
 

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It kind of highlights how hitting on those two young cheap corners in one draft (right after doing so with DL the couple of years before) and cutting the expensive Vet DBs helped your team both on the field and with the cap. The draft is becoming more and more important each year as salaries climb. These teams that play it like Pitts and are good enough every year to make the playoffs but never take a step back to reload and always pick in the middle to late middle of the draft may be the ones in the worst position. That's the problem with Dallas now. They used last year as a little bit of a cap reset and have let a bunch of older guys go the last couple of years that in years past they would have held onto, but this year they kind of got caught in between. They filled a bunch of holes and likely put themselves back on the playoff bubble, but clearly not enough to win a SB. So you either re-sign Pickens (if he doesn't implode) and then all of your young guys or you end up back where you were. They should have their eyes on 26 and 27 right now and I'm not sure Jerry is able to do that after teh criticism he took last year.
Exactly! Let’s do this exercise with a base number of 10 draft picks. In order to be successful you need 6-7 to be contributors for your team preferably starters. Then among those 6-7 you need 2-3 to become cornerstone pieces that you give a second contract to and are a part of the team core.

You need to have this model work on a yearly basis if you want consistent success.
 

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It kind of highlights how hitting on those two young cheap corners in one draft (right after doing so with DL the couple of years before) and cutting the expensive Vet DBs helped your team both on the field and with the cap. The draft is becoming more and more important each year as salaries climb. These teams that play it like Pitts and are good enough every year to make the playoffs but never take a step back to reload and always pick in the middle to late middle of the draft may be the ones in the worst position. That's the problem with Dallas now. They used last year as a little bit of a cap reset and have let a bunch of older guys go the last couple of years that in years past they would have held onto, but this year they kind of got caught in between. They filled a bunch of holes and likely put themselves back on the playoff bubble, but clearly not enough to win a SB. So you either re-sign Pickens (if he doesn't implode) and then all of your young guys or you end up back where you were. They should have their eyes on 26 and 27 right now and I'm not sure Jerry is able to do that after teh criticism he took last year.
This has been the name of the game for some time, of course, trying to hit on draft picks in key areas like QB and edge that then give you a lot more cap freedom going forward. Many teams have adjusted the positions they emphasize in the draft based on these salary cap realities, knowing that signing a FA QB or LT is almost impossible, due to the laws of supply and demand in free agency.

To win a ring, you not only need some impact players, but basically a LOT of the draft class to contribute. Philly had that last year, and as I recall the Giants also had a ton of draft contributors when they won their two rings. Not all those Giants panned out over time, but a lot of them contributed as rookies due to injuries and whatnot, and that helped carry the team.
 

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Pretty sure Terry is shooting for 30-33 million. Time will tell how it all works out.
 

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Pretty sure Terry is shooting for 30-33 million. Time will tell how it all works out.
I think a DK type deal should be fair to both sides so that’s the lower end of your posted range. It’s hard to tell who McLaurin really is because so many years of his career he’s been plagued by poor QB play plus being the singular option in the receiving corps most years (aka drawing double teams on nearly every snap).
 

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I think a DK type deal should be fair to both sides so that’s the lower end of your posted range. It’s hard to tell who McLaurin really is because so many years of his career he’s been plagued by poor QB play plus being the singular option in the receiving corps most years (aka drawing double teams on nearly every snap).
Agree that is what the front office is likely shooting for and spot on with the rest of your point
 

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Speaking of contracts, surprise surprise, it looks like the price for edge rushers may be about to go much higher due to Trey Hendrickson and TJ Watt, with implications for the Parsons deal.

 

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Speaking of contracts, surprise surprise, it looks like the price for edge rushers may be about to go much higher due to Trey Hendrickson and TJ Watt, with implications for the Parsons deal.

You want a summary of the Cowboys incompetence when it comes to contracts. This sums it up nicely:


But from an economic standpoint the Cowboys have (seemingly) paid much more than they would have if they had shown more proactivity with either Lamb or Prescott (multiple times for him specifically). Consider that they were each eligible for extensions in the 2023 offseason and that Dallas did not jump on either situation. We have noted this many times as well, but the Cowboys’ reactivity to Lamb and Prescott kept them busy last offseason and therefore (seemingly) unable to work on a Micah Parsons extension. Getting Parsons done last year, when he was first eligible, would have been wise.
You would figure that this would have led the Cowboys to getting a Parsons deal done as soon as this offseason began. This did not happen



If they signed Parsons at the end of last year or even in February he signs for around the $35.5M Maxx Crosby signed for or even say $36M. If they wait until after both Hendrickson and Watt he is going to cost them $42-$43M per. So same player that they 100% know they will sign eventually, without playing a single game more, costs them another $6-7M against the cap per year just because of how dumb they are. Now throw in the fact that they gave Dak $5M more than any QB still has gotten (and ignore he isn't in the same tier as the top QBs) even though guys like Josh Allen have signed since and you are talking $11M+ per year they lost in cap space just because of incompetence. That's a good starter they gave away. It's like playing golf against someone for money and not using your putter
 

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I wonder if Jerry has cash problems. He reportedly put a lot of money into the AT&T Stadium, and while I have little doubt he is raking in profits, I wonder if he has liquidity problems or something.
 

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I wonder if Jerry has cash problems. He reportedly put a lot of money into the AT&T Stadium, and while I have little doubt he is raking in profits, I wonder if he has liquidity problems or something.
I've said that for quite a while. Not that I necessarily think it is true, but I wonder if it is at least a possibility. Most people don't understand there can be a huge difference between wealth and cash - Could be all those law suits!!! Also, it's no secret how little they pay their coaches and staff as well and the rumors of their training staff not being all that great and understaffed have been surfacing as well. So maybe it's not a problem with having cash, but more a problem with wanting to part with the cash...
 

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McLaurin isnt going anywhere.
I think he is the most underrated WR in the league.
All he has ever had throwing to him was garbage QBs (until the rook) & all he has ever done was be a bad ass!

He isnt going anywhere. Maybe if you still had your old owner, we would have a chance.
 

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McLaurin isnt going anywhere.
I think he is the most underrated WR in the league.
All he has ever had throwing to him was garbage QBs (until the rook) & all he has ever done was be a bad ass!

He isnt going anywhere. Maybe if you still had your old owner, we would have a chance.
Agreed
 

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Well. Which to believe. Normally Clarence Hill is just barely above Fisher and Athlon sports on the believability scale, but still I choose to believe yours for no reason other than it makes me happier

 

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"Cowboys DE Micah Parsons said he wants an egoless defensive end room that takes constructive criticism."

A not so subtle dig at Lawrence. Just like when he exposed his bankruptcy on his podcast this week...
Sometimes people regret the battles they start...
 

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"Cowboys DE Micah Parsons said he wants an egoless defensive end room that takes constructive criticism."

A not so subtle dig at Lawrence. Just like when he exposed his bankruptcy on his podcast this week...
Sometimes people regret the battles they start...
I’m glad he’s still focused on bull shit like that.
 

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I’m glad he’s still focused on bull shit like that.
Me too. A superstar being focused on everyone taking coaching and being open to constructive criticism sets the.tone for the whole team. Hopefully no more entitled crap and Camp Cupcake part 2 is gone for good. Time for an attitude change and sounds like Micah is buying in, but Micah has never been an issue on the field, it's some of the other guys that were. Hopefully the Hot Boyz are just about all gone now, one by one they were shown the door.
 
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