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NFL needs to consider relagation and two-tiered system

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That’s probably true, and I bet pitching matchups play a big role. If a bad team’s #1 goes against a good team’s #4, that’s about even. With the NFL it’s basically the best version of each team facing off every game.
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Now you guys are over thinking this shit.

the QB is the most important position in sports but not the end all to winning games.
True, see: Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson’s SB rings
 

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Nobody told the Browns to make the dumbest trade in NFL history and follow it up with the dumbest contract in NFL history.

As far as the Bears, like the Btowns they can't develop quarterbacks. Which is the most important position.

Yea, if the Browns keep Baker theyre in the playoffs this year.
 

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Does it take more? Sure. But no Favre, Rodgers and now Love and replace them with middling players and that culture is useless.

Here is the last thing I'll bring up about culture. Wolf, Holmgren and Favre arrived in 1992. When they made the Superbowl in 1996 there were a grand total of 2 players left from the previous regime, Bulter and Ruettgers, and Ruettgers retired in 95 and came back for 1 game. Some of the players from the previous regime were still in the NFL, but they were part of the old culture and needed to go away. That's just the way it is, the were around when the culture was bad and had to go away.
 

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That’s probably true, and I bet pitching matchups play a big role. If a bad team’s #1 goes against a good team’s #4, that’s about even. With the NFL it’s basically the best version of each team facing off every game.
I think it's simply the best MLB teams lose to the worst quite often.
 

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Here is the last thing I'll bring up about culture. Wolf, Holmgren and Favre arrived in 1992. When they made the Superbowl in 1996 there were a grand total of 2 players left from the previous regime, Bulter and Ruettgers, and Ruettgers retired in 95 and came back for 1 game. Some of the players from the previous regime were still in the NFL, but they were part of the old culture and needed to go away. That's just the way it is, the were around when the culture was bad and had to go away.
no Favre no winning.
 

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I heard that in 2008, simpletons just can't see more than the QB.
OK, make it no Favre, then Rodgers and likely now Love and no winning?

didn't want to make it personal but since you did I'd say the simpletons are the ones who think a round of kumbaya means more than elite QB play. The year or years Rodgers was hurt did they just forget how great the culture was?
 

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OK, make it no Favre, then Rodgers and likely now Love and no winning?

didn't want to make it personal but since you did I'd say the simpletons are the ones who think a round of kumbaya means more than elite QB play. The year or years Rodgers was hurt did they just forget how great the culture was?

You do understand that I stated a good QB is necessary, right? I will also mention that several of Favre's backups went on the great careers with other teams, so again, it's not all the QB. You need a good culture of winning to get the obelisk, that's just the way it is.
 

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football is a total different animal to any other sport... it is the only sport that is ran properly, to benefit the teams OVER the owners... but it is communism... in its greatest form!!!

Wait! What?

Ah can you elaborate on that please. You know on the team over the owners part
 

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Not reading all replies, but this whole idea is simply butt ars stupid.
 

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You do understand that I stated a good QB is necessary, right? I will also mention that several of Favre's backups went on the great careers with other teams, so again, it's not all the QB. You need a good culture of winning to get the obelisk, that's just the way it is.
Favre and Rodgers not just good but all time greats. Kind of lucked into both in a sense.

The way it is is without those 2 all time greats (and now what looks like a great one in Love) your culture does not help much.

Great at finding QBs? sure.
 

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I hear you, OP.

That being said, the Detroit Lions were a 3-win team as few as 3 years ago after many decades of mostly being awful, and weren't legit contender-tier until just last year.

If anything, a bigger issue I see is the over-empahsis on QB's. When was the last time a team with a QB out of the top say, 15 in the league won a Superbowl? Joe Flacco, or Brad Johnson/Trent Dilfer of the early 2000's? It's consistently teams with top end-QB's who dominate. Give them a good coach, and you end up with situations like the current KC Chiefs who seem like the Patriots of the 2000's/2010's. It would be nice to not have the same 1 - 3 teams doing most of the winning all the time.
 
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