NFL needs to consider relagation and two-tiered system

[The Q]

San Francisco has made the playoffs 4 times in the last 10 years. Cleveland twice. Bears twice.

I would argue the NFL is the most competitive major sports league.

it's actually MLB by a fair amount.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

it's actually MLB by a fair amount.

is that a serious comment?? there are some divisions with more parity... but with how money is spent, the same teams are always in it...


football, has less parity than people think... but at least a rebuild can be quick if you find your franchise QB...

 

[DHoey]

it's actually MLB by a fair amount.

Yeah, I don't think so Q.

 

[The Q]

is that a serious comment?? there are some divisions with more parity... but with how money is spent, the same teams are always in it...


football, has less parity than people think... but at least a rebuild can be quick if you find your franchise QB...

Statistically accurate

Although the bigger reason for the nfl is the floor, not the cap

But local tv deals falling apart might change this going forward

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Statistically accurate

Although the bigger reason for the nfl is the floor, not the cap

But local tv deals falling apart might change this going forward

football is a total different animal to any other sport... it is the only sport that is ran properly, to benefit the teams OVER the owners... but it is communism... in its greatest form!!!

 

[Debbie Does]

Right now, part of the issue is over-expansion, too many games and really, a shortage of NFL-quality players. There is, in particular, a real shortage of NFL-level quarterbacks. Look what happened to the Jets when Rodgers went down. Not one, but two disastrous seasons. Same thing with Watson. The Giants ended up in the cellar thanks to their own poor management. The Raiders are the same way.

Another problem is excessive salaries. They've made a start with capped salaries for early-career kids, but they should do more of that. Look at Brock Purdy.

 

[fastforward]

When a team is shitty, fans shouldn’t go to the games, watch the games, buy their apparel, etc. if they do, then they are enriching the owners who don’t give a shit they are ruining the team. That’s why fair weather fans and bandwagon fans have always been drastically more intelligent than the diehards. The diehards are the reason their team sucks.

If teams don't generate income in 1 location owners move the team. If fans in Jacksonville and Carolina don't support their teams then those teams will move.

 

[chillerdab]

The OP just wants people to call his team good.

That’s the agenda.

 

[fastforward]

...Another problem is excessive salaries. They've made a start with capped salaries for early-career kids, but they should do more of that. Look at Brock Purdy.

Excessive salaries for hard to replace players is a by-product of capping salaries for entrants at too low a level. Teams still have to spend the money.

 

[Moab]

What makes teams consistently competitive is drafting and coaching. EOT

I would add culture to that. A culture of not accepting less than 100% effort, that includes competing for a spot on the roster, competing in practice and in the games, and a no nonsense attitude. I'm of the opinion that good teams are consistently good because they don't accept the nonsense that some teams do.

 

[dtgold88]

football is a total different animal to any other sport... it is the only sport that is ran properly, to benefit the teams OVER the owners... but it is communism... in its greatest form!!!

In some sense this is needed or at least should be how it is. In baseball, why should one team get 10X what the other gets from TV revenue for a game against that team? Without the team getting less there is no game.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

In some sense this is needed or at least should be how it is. In baseball, why should one team get 10X what the other gets from TV revenue for a game against that team? Without the team getting less there is no game.

i agree.... thats why i said football is the only sport ran properly...

hockey is pretty good too... basketball and baseball have huge holes...

 

[dtgold88]

I would add culture to that. A culture of not accepting less than 100% effort, that includes competing for a spot on the roster, competing in practice and in the games, and a no nonsense attitude. I'm of the opinion that good teams are consistently good because they don't accept the nonsense that some teams do.

I mean, most teams - even the best ones - have had long stretches of middling or bad play. Indy, KC, NO, NE and your own team even (but it's been a while). what saved them was finding great QBs. Not culture.

 

[dtgold88]

i agree.... thats why i said football is the only sport ran properly...

hockey is pretty good too... basketball and baseball have huge holes...

My bad as seems you meant the communism in a good way for the NFL (and other sports could use it).

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I mean, most teams - even the best ones - have had long stretches of middling or bad play. Indy, KC, NO, NE and your own team even (but it's been a while). what saved them was finding great QBs. Not culture.

hell, the packers almost moved out of green bay because they sucked for so long, franchise was saved by Brett Favre...

 

[Moab]

I mean, most teams - even the best ones - have had long stretches of middling or bad play. Indy, KC, NO, NE and your own team even (but it's been a while). what saved them was finding great QBs. Not culture.

I disagree. The culture after Lombardi was crap. Guys getting in trouble, non-football people making football decisions and lastly not getting up to speed with the modern game. That changed with Wolf and Holmgren. They did get a QB and were good and built a solid culture. It was about winning at home, winning division titles and staying modern. They went backwards under Rhodes and Sherman, then McCarthy actually went back to winning at home, winning division titles and staying modern. The same thing with LaFleur. Yes, they have had great QBs, but so did Rhodes and Sherman, and they did squat with them.

 

[Moab]

hell, the packers almost moved out of green bay because they sucked for so long, franchise was saved by Brett Favre...

They were never moving out of Green Bay, I have no idea where you got this, but that was never happening.

 

[Think McFly Think]

They were never moving out of Green Bay, I have no idea where you got this, but that was never happening.

First I’ve heard of this also, they don’t call GB Titletown for nothing.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

They were never moving out of Green Bay, I have no idea where you got this, but that was never happening.

You sure. They had only 2 winning seasons from 1968- 1992.

You may want to check it before you rebut it.

 

[dtgold88]

I disagree. The culture after Lombardi was crap. Guys getting in trouble, non-football people making football decisions and lastly not getting up to speed with the modern game. That changed with Wolf and Holmgren. They did get a QB and were good and built a solid culture. It was about winning at home, winning division titles and staying modern. They went backwards under Rhodes and Sherman, then McCarthy actually went back to winning at home, winning division titles and staying modern. The same thing with LaFleur. Yes, they have had great QBs, but so did Rhodes and Sherman, and they did squat with them.

Nope...it was about getting that QB. Don't luck into that and they don't turn it around. Did they forget how great their culture was in the most recent season they had AR and he got hurt and they were an alsoran?

It's the QBs.....and that's a good thing. Winning promotes a good culture. Not the other way around.