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I'm not even upset with Brissett, sure he's had his moments in the final minutes of games but the games could have been won before that. Furious with some coaching decisions, certain coaches and players inparticular. Lack of fire of this team and unprepared at times. Still the hope is Watson will elevate the team to win those close games and the coaching staff will be teetered to help the team in the future. It's ridiculous.

The only reason I mentioned Brissett is if DW wasn't suspended right now I think they'd have a much better record. I didn't mean for that to seem like I was putting too much of the blame on JB.

Talking with family & friends back home they also have mentioned poor coaching decisions. Maybe it's time to move on from Stephanski? Not sure what the right answer is. My bro-n-law wants the HC & DC gone. His wish list is Sean Payton.
 

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It all started when they got rid of Mayfield

BM had to be traded. After all the nonsense he said last season, and his dumb wife's bullshit, there was no way he could return.

He has nobody to blame but himself for how things ended in Cleveland. He was way too arrogant.

And I still find it odd how so few of his teammates had something good to say about him. I don't think he was much of a leader. And that's what a franchise QB is supposed to be.
 

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The only reason I mentioned Brissett is if DW wasn't suspended right now I think they'd have a much better record. I didn't mean for that to seem like I was putting too much of the blame on JB.

Talking with family & friends back home they also have mentioned poor coaching decisions. Maybe it's time to move on from Stephanski? Not sure what the right answer is. My bro-n-law wants the HC & DC gone. His wish list is Sean Payton.
Payton is a dream but I'm not sure CLE would be his destination of choice. On the fence about Stefanski still but the rest of the coaches can go other than their OL and RB coach.
 

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Payton is a dream but I'm not sure CLE would be his destination of choice. On the fence about Stefanski still but the rest of the coaches can go other than their OL and RB coach.

I just want our team to get outta this way too long rut they've been in. That obviously won't happen this season. I look at '22 as a lost season. Maybe when DW returns the Browns can play spoiler to some potential playoff team(s).

As far as the coaching staff changes need to be made. I just hope they're the right choices.
 

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at least Mitchell looks unbelievable.

Robin Lopez looks like a solid backup center too. Osman has looked solid thus far--- maybe he can get rid of his streakiness and become a guy that can be depended upon a little bit.

Last year if we had an injury to a main guy we were in trouble. I feel like this year- that even if a Garland or Allen or Mitchell misses games- we have teh depth to continue to play good basketball---- now if Mitchell and Garland are hurt at the same time- thats gonna be a problem. lol.
Nothing against Garland but DM definitely seems more equipped to take over a game if needed. Hopefully, as you say, we get and stay healthy...so he wont need to so much.

I'd say DM, Allen and Osman have been our 3 best so far. Cannot expect Osman to keep shooting like he has but if he could just be in the 45-48% range overall and 38% or so from 3 that would be a huge help.....also on a reasonable deal through next season.
 

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Payton is a dream but I'm not sure CLE would be his destination of choice. On the fence about Stefanski still but the rest of the coaches can go other than their OL and RB coach.
Payton would be interesting but in his first non Brees season they went 9-8 and he quit. Not sure why, but maybe @bksballer89 knows? Did he just realize the sport is tough without a franchise QB? which stefanski has maybe never really had and he's 21-19.
 

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I agree......

Baltimore should be trying to get OBJ when he is ready at the end of November. He has Andrews at TE, but not a really good WR.

At some point the passing game has to blamed on the OC and QB and not the WRs. They dumped Brown, who was playing very well for Arizona before his injury.
 

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I saw the play.

Seems like you are making fun of them for getting beat by a really good team.

They got WORKED by a really good team. Their familiarity game vs the Rams overstated their defensive ability (and will likely do so again next Sunday).
 

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Nothing against Garland but DM definitely seems more equipped to take over a game if needed. Hopefully, as you say, we get and stay healthy...so he wont need to so much.

I'd say DM, Allen and Osman have been our 3 best so far. Cannot expect Osman to keep shooting like he has but if he could just be in the 45-48% range overall and 38% or so from 3 that would be a huge help.....also on a reasonable deal through next season.

Did you see that h-o-r-s-e type shot Lopez made last night when he threw the ball at the bucket backwards while falling down and made it? The bench gotta good laugh outta that basket.
 

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At some point the passing game has to blamed on the OC and QB and not the WRs. They dumped Brown, who was playing very well for Arizona before his injury.
Brown is a #2 though....he has never really had a true #1 WR.
 

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They're in 1st place again.

It's like okay Seahawks...I guess we're gonna do this. lol

Tough to see any easy games left though, other than maybe Carolina? Division games always a toss-up to some degree.

Giants, Cards, Bucs, Raiders, Rams, Panthers, Niners, Chiefs, Jets, Rams.
 

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Payton is a dream but I'm not sure CLE would be his destination of choice. On the fence about Stefanski still but the rest of the coaches can go other than their OL and RB coach.

Better to find a deserving coordinator with a balanced pass/run system to elevate IMO than pinning hopes on Payton. Maybe Steichen (Eagles) or Callahan (Bengals)? Kafka (Giants) and Frank Smith (Dolphins) might be a little too new yet, and there's always the perennial bridesmaid Bieniemy. There's a bunch of options if they choose to promote a DC too; Gannon (Eagles), Martindale (Giants), Joseph (Cards), Morris (Rams), Quinn (Cowboys), etc.
 

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Better to find a deserving coordinator with a balanced pass/run system to elevate IMO than pinning hopes on Payton. Maybe Steichen (Eagles) or Callahan (Bengals)? Kafka (Giants) and Frank Smith (Dolphins) might be a little too new yet, and there's always the perennial bridesmaid Bieniemy. There's a bunch of options if they choose to promote a DC too; Gannon (Eagles), Martindale (Giants), Joseph (Cards), Morris (Rams), Quinn (Cowboys), etc.
I think it's better to stick with the guy who has so far gone 21-19 with Baker, Mullen, Keenum and JB as his starting QBs.
 

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yah....that was crazy

SPOILER ALERT

I am not sure whwat to think about how they tried to portray it as an accident that Aemond could not control his dragon....what was he doing then? just messing with him?
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That’s what I was talking about when I said same outcome, different motivation.

They are trying to do the same with Alicent.

They pretty much combined her storyline with Laena’s.

I get trying to give them nuance and her misunderstanding Viserys death bed rambling gives her that.

Makes them more sympathetic than the truth, which is Aemond is a kin slaying psycho and Alicent is a usurping hypocrite.

Aegon is a rapist in the TV show and he has a litter of bastards in both.

But, its all good because he has a dick.

Seriously….as you know….by the end of this, Luke, Jace, Rhaenys, Haelana we’re the only ones fit to reign.

But, two are bastards and the other two are less than bastards, they are women.
 
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